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Raizo wrote...

The thing is Miranda has to come back in ME3 as a full time/permanent squad mate, for me that is the 1 thing that is non negotiatable about ME3 for me, it would literally be a deal breaker for me if she were relagated to just a cameo or if she was just a temp squad mate. Bioware can take all thier talk about weapon modding, swat turns, larger envirmoments, etc and just shove it, I really don't care about any of the so cold improvement that ME3 is going to have over ME2 if I can't have Miranda with me in ME3. The Horizon scene in ME2 has taught me to hate and fear cameo appearances, I can not trust Bioware to do an adequte job with Miranda if she is just on the screen for a few minutes or if she is just around for 1 mission.


^ this

Jebel Krong wrote...

i like this one:
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I love this fanart.
Her face is very accurate and I he managed to capture one of my favorite Miranda faciale expression :

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We have to be prepared for the worst. IF, (and I reiterate) if Miranda is not a full time squad member how do you think she could best be implemented in ME3?

I was begrudgingly thinking that she could serve as Shepard's handler supplying him with valuable tactical intelligence during ground missions. Much like EDI (of course with a larger presence) in ME2. This way she could still have a important role in the game and also have a secure presence on the Normandy as an Intel and Logistics Officer. It wouldn't be a stretch for her character, since that's basically what she did in all of Mass Effect Galaxy for Jacob. And for Cerberus and core plot missions she'd be available as a squad mate.

I don't like it but it's better than a cameo.

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naledgeborn wrote...

We have to be prepared for the worst. IF, (and I reiterate) if Miranda is not a full time squad member how do you think she could best be implemented in ME3? 


Reposting my theory on what will happen to Miranda in ME3.

a) Miranda is doing her best to cause dissent amongst Cerberus's ranks. This would happen if Shepard blew up the Base.
b)Miranda is a double or even triple agent whose loyalties ultimately lie with Shepard and she is trying to destroy Cerberus from the inside out. Assuming, of course, that The Illusive Man's unlogical wrath is focused solely on Shepard. This would happen if Shepard preserved the Base.
c) Miranda could be blackmailed to turn against Shepard, temporarily of course. Personally, I don't like this one because if Miranda resigned, logically the first thing she whould do is attend to Oriana's protection which I hope just happened offscreen. So, unless Shepard gave the Base to Cerberus, I don' see this blackmail plot happening.

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^ I'd like for her to have a larger presence then that. I don't want her relegated to Cerberus only missions. That would ****** me off. I'm talking full blown nerdrage.

Edit: Also show support http://social.biowar...3/index/7358665

Modifié par naledgeborn, 11 mai 2011 - 04:52 .


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I Should have posted this earlier:
The confirmed ME3 squad so far according to the article (looking @you jtav...):

ASHLEY WILLIAMS
KAIDAN ALENKO
LIARA T'SONI
GARRUS VAKARIAN
JAMES SANDERS (now James Vega)

#13481
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Vertigo_1 wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

^ wow...
Anyway new info on ME3 here...
Chances of Miranda as perma squadmate don't look good...


Even though this is completely unrelated, but you have the best profile picture ever!


Thanks...even though I was affected from this whole PSN thing...


Sadly, I was too. [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

Fortunately, I used prepaid instead of a credit card.

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Well, whatever happens, the lady is here now.

I bring fanfic. Consider this my attempt at the "Shepard and Miranda knew each other before" plot.

Title: Portrait of the Artist as A Young Man
Characters: Male Colonist!Shepard/Miranda, various OCs and minor canon characters
Summary: Sixteen-year-old Matthias Shepard only wants two things: to be a great artist and stay sane. Not to be a biotic superweapon. Fate--and Miranda Lawson--have other plans.
Warnings: violence, strong language depiction of mental illness, sex between a sixteen and twenty-year old

Link

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Being a fan of a character that hasn't been confirmed yet is no fun. The current confirmed makeup of the ME3 squad is for me completely destroying any excitement that is coming from gameplay news. My main Shephard will not be a happy bunny if he's forced to be without Miri and i won't even bother importing my other Shephard's.

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jtav wrote...
I bring fanfic. Consider this my attempt at the "Shepard and Miranda knew each other before" plot.

Title: Portrait of the Artist as A Young Man
Characters: Male Colonist!Shepard/Miranda, various OCs and minor canon characters
Summary: Sixteen-year-old Matthias Shepard only wants two things: to be a great artist and stay sane. Not to be a biotic superweapon. Fate--and Miranda Lawson--have other plans.
Warnings: violence, strong language depiction of mental illness, sex between a sixteen and twenty-year old

Link

Didn't you post an excerpt of this quite some time ago? An interesting and refreshing setup, and if I recall correctly, much improved from that excerpt. I like Matthias Shepard - sixteen years and already quite a bit of cynicism, but with reason, and within reason. An aspiring artist and secret biotic, that's an interesting combination for a future savior of the galaxy. It makes me want to read more about him.

Only, reading Matthias' impression of Miranda, one would think you dislike her quite a bit. Also I vehemently disagree with Miranda's face looking somehow "wrong" because of her perfection, and neither do I agree with the idea that perfect features can't look human or alive. Apart from my fundamental disagreement with these notions, if Miranda looked like that - if there was even a hint of looking unnatural or "wrong" (a term I would *never* use) - she wouldn't be attractive. People aren't attracted to lifeless statues as a rule. I'm not totally against the direction you're taking with this description, but IMO the description itself as well as the associations connected with it in Matthias' mind need to be toned down quite a bit. Please, no more things looking "wrong".

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 mai 2011 - 07:51 .


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wright1978 wrote...

Being a fan of a character that hasn't been confirmed yet is no fun. The current confirmed makeup of the ME3 squad is for me completely destroying any excitement that is coming from gameplay news. My main Shephard will not be a happy bunny if he's forced to be without Miri and i won't even bother importing my other Shephard's.


from what I have heard Miranda is certain to be a full squad member especially considering her previous ties with TIM and cerberus.

and they are on about trimming the players down in the game which is likely to mean that they will be slimming down the non romance characters (e.g. Mordin, Grunt, Wrex, Samara/Morinth, Kasumi, Zaeed) due them not annoying as many people due  to them not being selected as romances in the previous two games (I know morinth you can romance with but you die so i do not count that as a romance)

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wright1978 wrote...
Being a fan of a character that hasn't been confirmed yet is no fun. The current confirmed makeup of the ME3 squad is for me completely destroying any excitement that is coming from gameplay news. My main Shephard will not be a happy bunny if he's forced to be without Miri and i won't even bother importing my other Shephard's.

Most definitely. The gameplay news are good, and I would be really excited about them. More playing in three dimensions, for instance, something I've always wanted. But it all passes me by before Miranda is confirmed. Until then, it all pales into insignificance. 

@TomY90:
From what you've heard? Where? This would be very good news!

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 mai 2011 - 07:44 .


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I heard around on the forums that all romance characters will be full squad members (cannot remember where i heard it and I cannot bring up the evidence simply because I do not remember where I saw it) which so far the announced characters fit it very well because every single character is an LI in ME1/ME2 (apart from James Sanders or what ever his name is now).

And if you read the OXM magazine about characters it does say 12 was too many characters in ME2 and they said they will be slimming down the numbers to make it more personal relationships.

Which the easiest to slim down are those that are not emotionally tied to shepherd like an LI which those are the ones i mentioned (I forgot Legion) which 9 characters (the ME1 confirmed, ME2 LI's and the James guy) will fit the criteria more whilst not annoying those who romanced with characters and find all that happens is that they say hello and a small mission and thats it. 

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TomY90 wrote...

I heard around on the forums that all romance characters will be full squad members (cannot remember where i heard it and I cannot bring up the evidence simply because I do not remember where I saw it) which so far the announced characters fit it very well because every single character is an LI in ME1/ME2 (apart from James Sanders or what ever his name is now).

And if you read the OXM magazine about characters it does say 12 was too many characters in ME2 and they said they will be slimming down the numbers to make it more personal relationships.

Which the easiest to slim down are those that are not emotionally tied to shepherd like an LI which those are the ones i mentioned (I forgot Legion) which 9 characters (the ME1 confirmed, ME2 LI's and the James guy) will fit the criteria more whilst not annoying those who romanced with characters and find all that happens is that they say hello and a small mission and thats it. 


I hope you're right. I know my ideal squad for ME3 missions would be Shep/Miri/Ash. I always save Ash during the PS3 comic and that would make a squad of 2 Soldiers plus a biotic who happens to be pretty good with firearms (not sure what Miri is exactly, Sentinel?)

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@TomY90:
What Casey Hudson said was that they'll trim down the size of the team in order to be able to "do more with the characters" (that's the exact phrasing). He followed up with the statement that they're bringing everyone back. "Every main character in ME3 somewhere". That leaves quite a bit of room to exile characters to places where we'll meet them only once.

@Td1984:
My ideal team would include Shepard (Engineer or Infiltrator), Miranda and some Soldier or Adept type. Liara would fit the slot. Ashley would, too, though that would be a high tension team since two of my maleSheps romanced Ashley in ME1 and Miranda in ME2. At least my "main" maleShep was replayed to avoid any possible conflict.

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TomY90 wrote...

I heard around on the forums that all romance characters will be full squad members


Speculation.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 mai 2011 - 08:38 .


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I'm personally looking forward to have my Soldier Shep on a squad with both Miranda and Kaidan. Two Sentinels specializing in both Biotics and Tech. Shepard tanking and dishing it out with weapons and supporting with squad ammo. All bases covered with this team. The Reapers are in deep.

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she gota be a squadie in ME3 period. She along with our lovable space batman, the shy shotgun wilder. they are the new trio of friends.

Miranda gota be back otherwise is not the same.

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i would love miranda back as a squad mate in mass effect 3, me personally loved her as a character. and the funny thing miri is like the splitting image of one of my best buddies which is neat shame she aint single tho lmao

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lol nice. I dont know about the last article that all members were going to come back in one way or another. But that the team size was goign to be incredibly downsized... thats why I am wary. I dont care if they come back if they aren't my squadies... period. I dont want another wrex to be pulled with miri tali or garrus. that would make me rally a mob against bioware's HQ

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I'm really nervous about the squad being downsized. I loved so many of the squad mates that I don't want to see any of them go especially Miri. I would be so sad if she wasn't a permanent member.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

I Should have posted this earlier:
The confirmed ME3 squad so far according to the article (looking @you jtav...):

ASHLEY WILLIAMS
KAIDAN ALENKO
LIARA T'SONI
GARRUS VAKARIAN
JAMES SANDERS (now James Vega)

Hmmm I thought Tali was confirmed..

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Ms_Alison_Gunn wrote...

I'm really nervous about the squad being downsized. I loved so many of the squad mates that I don't want to see any of them go especially Miri. I would be so sad if she wasn't a permanent member.

Really?! I'm glad they are getting rid of people. I would prefer less squad mates and more dialog. If we have too many we'll have the Garrus recalibrating his guns problem again....

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Raizo wrote...
The thing is Miranda has to come back in ME3 as a full time/permanent squad mate, for me that is the 1 thing that is non negotiatable about ME3 for me, it would literally be a deal breaker for me if she were relagated to just a cameo or if she was just a temp squad mate.

I agree that a cameo would be a deal breaker, but I'm of two minds regarding permanent team member status. For she has a better chance of being important to the plot if she's not always present. Shepard's permanent team members are, in a way, always relegated to the role of followers. I would like Miranda to have an influence on the plot independent from Shepard's, and that means she must have the opportunity to do things independently from him, which in turn means she must be away from the team for some time. 

So, if she is to become really important to the plot, for instance in a way that one of the possible solutions to the Reaper threat cannot be implemented without her, then I would actually prefer her not being always on the team if that is the price I must pay for her being more important. 

Having said that, a cameo or even a one-mission temporary team member status is not acceptable, since that would preclude her from having enough interaction to establish a satisfactory presence. Enough interaction with her, for me that's the primary requirement.

Bioware can take all thier talk about weapon modding, swat turns, larger envirmoments, etc and just shove it, I really don't care about any of the so cold improvement that ME3 is going to have over ME2 if I can't have Miranda with me in ME3. The Horizon scene in ME2 has taught me to hate and fear cameo appearances, I can not trust Bioware to do an adequte job with Miranda if she is just on the screen for a few minutes or if she is just around for 1 mission.

They're doing some impressive things from the information we were getting, but you're right. Appreciating the gameplay improvements is contingent on having enough of Miranda in the game.

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atheelogos wrote...

Ms_Alison_Gunn wrote...
I'm really nervous about the squad being downsized. I loved so many of the squad mates that I don't want to see any of them go especially Miri. I would be so sad if she wasn't a permanent member.

Really?! I'm glad they are getting rid of people. I would prefer less squad mates and more dialog. If we have too many we'll have the Garrus recalibrating his guns problem again....

You would sing a different song if Miranda were one of those reduced to a cameo. If everyone lives, there will be eight LI characters in any ME3 game. If they're all to be permanent team members, plus that new man, Vega, that will already be nine. Of the maleShep LIs, Ashley, Liara and Tali are already confirmed, and we all know Jack is Casey Hudson's favorite.... I find that reason enough to worry.

(In fact, I don't think anyone is confirmed as a *permanent* team member. All they said was the characters mentioned were "playable to some extent". Or have I overlooked some information?)

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Really hope they are working some system to take account of people's love interest and allow them to be recruitable if they are your LI. However Casey Hudson's tweet about 'final resolution' for ME2 love interests fills me with dread that we will get another Liara after LOTSB two minute cut scene.