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[Blarty]

I personally think that there's two ways of squadmate progresion that Bioware are considering: a continuous thread from ME2 or exploring a new character facet - Look at Garrus' missions - completely different from his ME1 character.

It's true that, the 'My Father....' area of Miranda's character make-up is one of the few that easily lend themselves to further exploration and explanation in ME3, simply due to the significant ambiguity, even the concept of 'Father' could be warped in some way. Others might be Mordin's work on the STG, or even analysis of Okeer's construction of Grunt, Kasumi's grey-box is another link but it's flexible enough to take in a number of directions.

[Oblivious]

There's a difference between a character flaw and something that absolutely kills a character. Forced infertility, in this case, would kill Miranda in my eyes. It takes away from her "perfect" background and qualities. Miranda would become not some super human designed to construct a dynasty but some flawed prototype to be used and disposed of, like Okeer's Krogans.

As shallow as it might make me sound, if there was absolutely no way to fix the problem then the point of a Miri romance would die in my eyes. I'd still love the character and the premise, but the potential of developing said character would reach a standstill and so would my interest.

[Jebel Krong]

Oblivious wrote...

There's a difference between a character flaw and something that absolutely kills a character. Forced infertility, in this case, would kill Miranda in my eyes. It takes away from her "perfect" background and qualities. Miranda would become not some super human designed to construct a dynasty but some flawed prototype to be used and disposed of, like Okeer's Krogans.

As shallow as it might make me sound, if there was absolutely no way to fix the problem then the point of a Miri romance would die in my eyes. I'd still love the character and the premise, but the potential of developing said character would reach a standstill and so would my interest.

how does perfect = "ability to have children" or dictate character development? <_<

short answer: it doesn't; and there are plenty of avenues for character developement and romance that don't revolve around pregnancy or having kids.

[Jebel Krong]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

It would still be nice to have the choice~
And I hope BW doesn't take the easy way and build the Miranda/Shepard relationship around that issue...

Would they build it off of something found in a DLC that may or may not be true?

i bloody hope not - i want proper storytelling and character devlopment with miranda in ME3, not something focused around something both relatively trivial (compared to the main, galactic matters) and so cliche.

[AstronautN7]

CaseyDHudson twittered:




 






@TeeShepz Like most key characters in the ME universe, Miranda and Jacob will be in #ME3, but details beyond that would be story spoilers.


Hopefully confirmations of the listed below for ME3 will follow soon:

• permanent squadmate
• Love interest (if you wish to do so)
• again voiced and 'faced" by Yvonne Strahovski
  
  

[jtav]

I don't think #3 was ever really in doubt. I do think she'll be a temp, though the possibility exists that she'll be an enemy because Cerberus is blackmailing her via her sister (please no) or because she's discovered Lazarus makes Shep a liability. Though I think temp is more likely. She'll be a LI the same way Liara was in LOTSB.

[Caihn]

AstronautN7 wrote...

Hopefully confirmations of the listed below for ME3 will follow soon:

• permanent squadmate
• Love interest (if you wish to do so)
• again voiced and 'faced" by Yvonne Strahovski
  
  

I hope so.
These are essential things for me.

Modifié par Yannkee, 31 mai 2011 - 03:47 .

[Errol Dnamyx]

Wasting Miranda's character and her awesome VA by making her a temporary squaddie? Please no!

It wouldn't ruin the game for me, but I'd be disappointed. A lot.

[jtav]

I depends on what they do with her. I'd hardly call ME2 Liara or Wrex wastes.

[Caihn]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Wasting Miranda's character and her awesome VA by making her a temporary squaddie? Please no!

I agree.

I don't want Miranda as a temporary squadmate.
I want a substantial screen time, many conversations, character development, romance ... and I also want my favorite badass squadmate back on the battlefield at my side (during as many missions as possible).

Modifié par Yannkee, 31 mai 2011 - 04:04 .

[Errol Dnamyx]

jtav wrote...

I depends on what they do with her. I'd hardly call ME2 Liara or Wrex wastes.

I call them cameos I could have lived without.

[MisterJB]

The renewal of the Krogan race is only possible thanks to Wrex. By creating a neutral ground for the clans to meet and establishing Clan Urdnot as the most influential and powerful one, he has proven his intelligence and resourcefulness and he will have a pivotal role to play when the Reapers arrive. One day, he will be remembered as the greatest Krogan that ever lived.
This is what I hope for Miranda in ME3, first and foremost.

Modifié par MisterJB, 31 mai 2011 - 04:16 .

[O Tucker]

MisterJB wrote...

The renewal of the Krogan race is only possible thanks to Wrex. By creating a neutral ground for the clans to meet and establishing Clan Urdnot as the most influential and powerful one, he has proven his intelligence and resourcefulness and he will have a pivotal role to play when the Reapers arrive.
This is what I hope for Miranda in ME3, first and foremost.

Please explain why you think miranda is connected to this?

[Td1984]

Yannkee wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Wasting Miranda's character and her awesome VA by making her a temporary squaddie? Please no!

I agree.

I don't want Miranda as a temporary squadmate.
I want a substantial screen time, many conversations, character development, romance ... and I also want my favorite badass squadmate back on the battlefield at my side (during as many missions as possible).

Same here. Especially considering this is the final game in the trilogy.

[MisterJB]

O Tucker wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

The renewal of the Krogan race is only possible thanks to Wrex. By creating a neutral ground for the clans to meet and establishing Clan Urdnot as the most influential and powerful one, he has proven his intelligence and resourcefulness and he will have a pivotal role to play when the Reapers arrive.
This is what I hope for Miranda in ME3, first and foremost.

Please explain why you think miranda is connected to this?

Wrex in an example. Wrex is a character that, despite not being on Shepard's squad, has carved a name for himself, is very important and influential on the Galactic stage and gets the recognition he deserves.

I want the same for Miranda. I want her to become one of the most important players on the Galaxy; I want to see her become a leader, not just Shepard's second in command; I want her survival in the Suicide Mission to mean something, not like Garrus where it matters little if you recruited him in ME1 or not; I want to see her helping humanity in a substantial manner like Wrex does for the Krogan; and I want the different races to acknowledge just how crucial Miranda was for our victory over the Reapers.

Modifié par MisterJB, 31 mai 2011 - 04:28 .

[Caihn]

Td1984 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Wasting Miranda's character and her awesome VA by making her a temporary squaddie? Please no!

I agree.

I don't want Miranda as a temporary squadmate.
I want a substantial screen time, many conversations, character development, romance ... and I also want my favorite badass squadmate back on the battlefield at my side (during as many missions as possible).

Same here. Especially considering this is the final game in the trilogy.

Yes, we probably won't see this character again. So if they do to Miranda what they did to Wrex in ME2 it will totally ruin my gaming experience, and I don't wanna play the final act of the series with Miranda as a minor character.

The only thing which makes me think it's not hopeless is that I don't think Bioware would hire such an amazing voice actress for a character with a minor role and so few lines. But I was so disapointed by Bioware, lately ... I don't know ... maybe I should fear the worst.

[Vertigo_1]

Yannkee wrote...

Yes, we probably won't see this character again. So if they do to Miranda what they did to Wrex in ME2 it will totally ruin my gaming experience, and I don't wanna play the final act of the series with Miranda as a minor character.

The only thing which makes me think it's not hopeless is that I don't think Bioware would hire such an amazing voice actress for a character with a minor role and so few lines. But I was so disapointed by Bioware, lately ... I don't know ... maybe I should fear the worst.

DA2?

[Caihn]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

DA2?

It was not a bad game, but I expected something better from Bioware.

Since ME2, I didn't enjoy many thing from Bioware.
SWTOR and ME3 are my last hope ...  

Modifié par Yannkee, 31 mai 2011 - 05:22 .

[Oblivious]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

There's a difference between a character flaw and something that absolutely kills a character. Forced infertility, in this case, would kill Miranda in my eyes. It takes away from her "perfect" background and qualities. Miranda would become not some super human designed to construct a dynasty but some flawed prototype to be used and disposed of, like Okeer's Krogans.

As shallow as it might make me sound, if there was absolutely no way to fix the problem then the point of a Miri romance would die in my eyes. I'd still love the character and the premise, but the potential of developing said character would reach a standstill and so would my interest.

how does perfect = "ability to have children" or dictate character development? <_<

short answer: it doesn't; and there are plenty of avenues for character developement and romance that don't revolve around pregnancy or having kids.

Look at the bold again. I'm not forcing this down anyone's throat, just offering my 2 cents. And tbh the ME2 romances have a lot less potential than the ME1 ones simply because there wasn't alot of information offered. Ashley's romance can explore religion, nationalism, poetry, family, her service record, her new Spectre position, etc. Miranda's can conclude the Cerberus arc, her insecurities, her father, and the pregnancy portion. That's all I can remember since she got closure with her sister. The insecurities and father can probably be resolved as friends and the Cerberus arc will resolve itself.

Unless Bioware starts adding new aspects to her personality her potential growth if the pregnancy issue were unsolvable would stagnate in my opinion.

[MACharlie1]

Yannkee wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

DA2?

It was not a bad game, but I expected something better from Bioware.

Since ME2, I didn't enjoy many thing from Bioware.
SWTOR and ME3 are my last hope ...  

Don't hold your breath for SWTOR. Like anything Lucas has his hands in for the past few years, it will be cringe inducing. They already screwed up some of it's canon with the Rattakaki. <_<

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I'm hoping that Miranda can have an important role in the game like Liara and Wrex were given if she isn't going to be a permanent squademate. I always thought that she could be made the leader of Cerberus after TIM is gotten rid of. Than you'd have Cerberus' recourses helping to fight the Reapers and you'd have someone that you can trust.

That would be a good path for her character to take.

[jtav]

I want that scenario badly. I would cheerfully sacrifice squadmate and LI status for that. "Illusive Woman" is something she's uniquely qualified for.

[TMA LIVE]

For those that kept the base, do you think Miranda is still working with Cerberus, and might be assisting Shepard's capture?

[TomY90]

TMA LIVE wrote...

For those that kept the base, do you think Miranda is still working with Cerberus, and might be assisting Shepard's capture?

I think miranda either way would have left cerberus because it was clear afterwards she was upset about it and hate to say this but game story writers will not want as much variation as possible instead they will want what I will call 'organised chaos' in which they will create order on the such things to something that suits all situations

that will reduce the amount of data needed for the character introduction and enable them to have a few variation to the story with the character as possible and as well enable a higher level of overall quality to the story of such characters.

Modifié par TomY90, 31 mai 2011 - 11:27 .

[TMA LIVE]

Hmm, Miranda quitting because of the Cerberus having the Collector Base? I'd never expect something like that.