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[Caihn]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

I'm hoping that Miranda can have an important role in the game like Liara and Wrex were given if she isn't going to be a permanent squademate. I always thought that she could be made the leader of Cerberus after TIM is gotten rid of. Than you'd have Cerberus' recourses helping to fight the Reapers and you'd have someone that you can trust.

That would be a good path for her character to take.

A leader of Cerberus ?
No thanks.
She deserves something better. Being the leader of what remains of a weakened and disrespected organisation is not what I want for her. I wouldn't mind that she participates to the rebuild of a new organisation in the future, after the war, but not now.
Let the bureaucrats lead organisations, and let the competent operatives like Miranda do what they do best.
I don't care about her upward social mobility for now, everyone will be able to imagine every kind of possibility for her future after ME3. Right now, she's one of the best squadmate in combat : a powerful biotic and a tech specialist. She's also a competent XO, due to her experience as a high rank operative and as a leader of the Lazarus cell. She can command a squad. She can be a perfect informant for Shepard during missions, and her network of contacts can be very helpful when you have to forge alliances with other factions.
Personnaly, I don't consider the "Illusive woman" role something meaningful and rewarding for someone like Miranda. Sure she certainly have the qualifications for this job, but to me it would be a waste. Considering the situation during ME3, she can be far more useful on the Normandy.

Also, I don't want that they sacrifice the character development, the interactions or the romance, for a not so important role (which could be assigned to any bureaucrats, politicians, or high rank Alliance officiers).

She has to be a permanent squadmate.

Modifié par Yannkee, 01 juin 2011 - 01:09 .

[TMA LIVE]

If Shepard quits or dies, would you rather she take over as the Normandy's new captain? Showing that she can have the fire to lead others and inspire loyalty? Or something similar to that?

[Jebel Krong]

Yannkee wrote...

Td1984 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Wasting Miranda's character and her awesome VA by making her a temporary squaddie? Please no!

I agree.

I don't want Miranda as a temporary squadmate.
I want a substantial screen time, many conversations, character development, romance ... and I also want my favorite badass squadmate back on the battlefield at my side (during as many missions as possible).

Same here. Especially considering this is the final game in the trilogy.

Yes, we probably won't see this character again. So if they do to Miranda what they did to Wrex in ME2 it will totally ruin my gaming experience, and I don't wanna play the final act of the series with Miranda as a minor character.

The only thing which makes me think it's not hopeless is that I don't think Bioware would hire such an amazing voice actress for a character with a minor role and so few lines. But I was so disapointed by Bioware, lately ... I don't know ... maybe I should fear the worst.

that alone atm gives me great hope - yvonne and martin sheen were )used as) major selling points for mass effect 2 - the increase in caliber of voice actors from film and tv has been increasingly important to video games for a while now (probably since GTA3).

[AstronautN7]

Sorry of this is a repost of things already discussed, but since I'm new to ME and BW forums...

I can't see either how Miranda would work again with Cerberus and especially TIM , other than being forced somehow because of her sister or something to protect/help Shepard.

I base that on the following:  If you take a loyal (and LI) Miranda on your team for the final suicide mission part and you intend to destroy the base, TIM orders Miranda to prevent that. She then more or less quits Cerberus/TIM and sides with Shepard. Don't remeber the exaxt words though.

[MisterJB]

N7: Just assume that whatever you want to post about Miranda has already been discussed and rediscussed time and time again.
Even if Miranda is not loyal, she will resign from Cerberus. Tough, quite frankly, I'm not sure if it counts considering that if you take an unloyal Miranda to figth the Human-Reaper, she'll die rigth after. Maybe Bioware just didn't want to include a Miranda boss figth.
Also, this how the conversation goes:

TIM: "Miranda, do not let Shepard destroy the base!"
Miranda: Or what, you'll replace me next?"
TIM: "I gave you an order, Miranda!"
Miranda: "I noticed, consider this my resignation."
Shepard""

Modifié par MisterJB, 01 juin 2011 - 01:56 .

[naledgeborn]

Yannkee wrote...

Personally, I don't consider the "Illusive woman" role something meaningful and rewarding for someone like Miranda. Sure she certainly have the qualifications for this job, but to me it would be a waste. Considering the situation during ME3, she can be far more useful on the Normandy.

Also, I don't want that they sacrifice the character development, the interactions or the romance, for a not so important role (which could be assigned to any bureaucrats, politicians, or high rank Alliance officiers).

She has to be a permanent squadmate.

+1

That's why I made Donnel Udina Humanity's Councilor. Let him push papers and look out for Human interestests. Miranda belongs on the frontlines with the man she spent 2 years reviving.

[jtav]

Actually, I respectfully submit that she doesn't belong on the front lines. She's a capable fighter, but Garrus, Grunt, and Jack are all better in a stand up fight. Miranda's true brilliance are things like administration, strategy, tactics, and espionage/being a handler. Those are the kinds of roles she should be filling in this war.

[MisterJB]

While I do agree that Miranda's true brilliance lies elsewhere, she is still a much better field commander than Garrus, Grunt or Jack thus, more needed on the frontlines than them.

Modifié par MisterJB, 01 juin 2011 - 02:20 .

[naledgeborn]

I agree with you jtav.

Don't forget though, Shepard does't lead an army of shock troops. S/he leads a special operations team. Miranda's expertise is special operations.

[TMA LIVE]

jtav wrote...

Actually, I respectfully submit that she doesn't belong on the front lines. She's a capable fighter, but Garrus, Grunt, and Jack are all better in a stand up fight. Miranda's true brilliance are things like administration, strategy, tactics, and espionage/being a handler. Those are the kinds of roles she should be filling in this war.

Yeah. Even with the new armor, I just don't see her as someone to take into combat. She just doesn't seem the type for it, unless I have a reason besides fighting to bring her.

[Caihn]

Jebel Krong wrote...

that alone atm gives me great hope - yvonne and martin sheen were )used as) major selling points for mass effect 2 - the increase in caliber of voice actors from film and tv has been increasingly important to video games for a while now (probably since GTA3).

I hope Bioware also sees Yvonne as a talented actress, who did an amazing job in ME2 despite the fact that she's a novice in voice over work.

naledgeborn wrote...
+1

That's why I made Donnel Udina Humanity's Councilor. Let him push papers and look out for Human interestests.

I agree. 
I'm considering making a new playthrough (thanks ME genesis) with Udina as councilor. I chose Anderson in all my playthrough, but now I think it was a poor choice.
I really prefer Anderson's personality, but like with Miranda as the new Cerberus leader, I think this role doesn't fit him and is a waste of potentials.

Miranda belongs on the frontlines with the man she spent 2 years reviving.

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Worried about my qualifications? I can crush a mech with my biotics or shoot its head off at 100 yards. Take your pick

Modifié par Yannkee, 01 juin 2011 - 05:22 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Actually, I respectfully submit that she doesn't belong on the front lines. She's a capable fighter, but Garrus, Grunt, and Jack are all better in a stand up fight. Miranda's true brilliance are things like administration, strategy, tactics, and espionage/being a handler. Those are the kinds of roles she should be filling in this war.

I agree. It is unfortunate that the focus of the games is so much on combat. Apart from dealing with the science, I'd love to take Miranda on an espionage and infiltration mission. I gather she'd also be a good assassin if necessary. While she'll do fine in combat, it's not her main area of expertise.
(When saying "not on the frontlines" I mean open combat. At the frontlines of a cold war, that's a different matter. Miranda would be invaluable there)

I still want to take her on several missions preferably, but that's a matter unrelated to her actual skills and more about my preference for having my favorite character with me in ME3. Anyway, these things are long decided I guess. I only hope that some more substantial information will materialize before ME3 is out.

 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 juin 2011 - 04:57 .

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...
I agree. It is unfortunate that the focus of the games is so much on combat. Apart from dealing with the science, I'd love to take Miranda on an espionage and infiltration mission. I gather she'd also be a good assassin if necessary.

I agree!
I'd love to have that option with her when we take down Cerberus together.

Also agree shes not a frontline type of person

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 01 juin 2011 - 05:47 .

[jtav]

Miranda would be invaluable in a cold war. It's Shepard who would be the liability. Can you imagine a Thief-style game with Miranda as the protagonist? If Miranda can have both a sizable role on the team and power in her own right, I have no objection. It's just that the power is more important to me. As long as I get the kind of character I thought I was getting, I can fill in the gaps.

[Seboist]

jtav wrote...

Actually, I respectfully submit that she doesn't belong on the front lines. She's a capable fighter, but Garrus, Grunt, and Jack are all better in a stand up fight. Miranda's true brilliance are things like administration, strategy, tactics, and espionage/being a handler. Those are the kinds of roles she should be filling in this war.

Agreed, characters like Miranda,Mordin,Tali,Liara and Kasumi don't strike me as frontline fighters and are better suited for other roles.

[Vertigo_1]

Yannkee wrote...
Worried about my qualifications? I can crush a mech with my biotics or shoot its head off at 100 yards. Take your pick

You know half of that statement supports a Miranda not on the frontlines right?

[jtav]

A very short update for Portrait. Act 1 is complete. I welcome reviews of all stripes. I don't bite. Promise.

[Caihn]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Worried about my qualifications? I can crush a mech with my biotics or shoot its head off at 100 yards. Take your pick

You know half of that statement supports a Miranda not on the frontlines right?

I agree, but I think she also proved that she can be dangerous and deadly when enemies are closer. 

[Caihn]

Found my birthday gift 

[100k]

Yannkee wrote...

Found my birthday gift 

Must have...higher rez...

[goofyomnivore]

that would be a killer wallpaper

[Caihn]

And Miranda is in the foreground.  perfect

[Vertigo_1]

And yeah she can do close combat when she needs to...
Damn Yannkee how many gifs of her do you have?! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]

About the lithograph:
Damn the 80 bucks price tag(and who knows how much for shipping!)...I used some of my money on Witcher 2, Portal 2 and a new graphics card...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 01 juin 2011 - 10:45 .

[Caihn]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

And yeah she can do close combat when she needs to...
Damn Yannkee how many gifs of her do you have?! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]

A lot  

Vertigo_1 wrote...

About the lithograph:
Damn the 80 bucks price tag(and who knows how much for shipping!)...I used some of my money on Witcher 2, Portal 2 and a new graphics card...

Yes, it's a little bit expensive ... but totally worth it. 

Modifié par Yannkee, 01 juin 2011 - 10:44 .

[jtav]

Shouldn't really surprise anyone, given her skillset, but Miranda is apparently the most-used squad member, per Senior Gameplay Designer Brendon Holmes. Take that as you will.