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Miranda Lawson - our favorite woman in the galaxy (III)

Débuté par Ieldra , juin 11 2010 04:30

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:17

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MisterJB wrote...

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Another point to show that the "perfect woman" isn't that perfect after all? At least that's how I explained that information for myself.

Personally, I think it's because people tend to discount psychological scars when compared to physical ones.
So, they felt the need to give her a medical issue.


I doubt any man can possibly imagine what it must mean for a woman to not be able to have children. I know I can't. I mean, us men are used to being the reason behind just about anything that goes wrong, but taking away the ability to become a mother must be psychologically destroying. Being infertile (whether you're male or female doesn't really matter to a certain extent) is a far greater psychological issue than it is physiological. The medical condition or genetic disposition that renders one infertile may not be a big deal from a medical point of view, but the impact it has on your mind and on your self-esteem ist horrifying. I don't really know if I ever wanna have children, but I'd still be devastated if someone told that I'll never be able to be a father (well, a biological father anyway.

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:18

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MisterJB wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...
Another point to show that the "perfect woman" isn't that perfect after all? At least that's how I explained that information for myself.

Personally, I think it's because people tend to discount psychological scars when compared to physical ones.
So, they felt the need to give her a medical issue.

I still feel it goes against her character concept. She was meant to be physically "perfect" but psychologically scarred. And if people feel that psychological problems dont count, that's their problem. She didn't need a sympathy card, especially not this one.

@Rawke:
Don't generalize. There are women who don't care one way or the other. It could even be that Miranda doesn't care. That's not the point about it. The point is that Bioware felt the need to make her less than she was to pander to the common tendency to deny sympathy to those more competent or in any way better than the average.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 juin 2011 - 09:25 .

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:21

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Souta wrote...

Hi Everyone:D
I want to support my favorite Character from the Mass Effect Universe:wub:
I really hope they show something new on BioWare TV


Welcome ! Glad to see an another Miri fan.

I also hope for something new.

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:29

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The repeats on BW tv continue to stop on me. I hope it doesn't do the same for the live footage. Image IPB

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:29

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Here's the problem with Miranda as she was before LOTSB: she's essentially upset about being beautiful and brilliant. Most people would kill to be that, so her self-esteem issues don't come across as well as they should. Especially since she never gives a concrete example of what exactly her father did to her.

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:32

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Ieldra2 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...
Another point to show that the "perfect woman" isn't that perfect after all? At least that's how I explained that information for myself.

Personally, I think it's because people tend to discount psychological scars when compared to physical ones.
So, they felt the need to give her a medical issue.

I still feel it goes against her character concept. She was meant to be physically "perfect" but psychologically scarred. And if people feel that psychological problems dont count, that's their problem. She didn't need a sympathy card, especially not this one.

@Rawke:
Don't generalize. There are women who don't care one way or the other. It could even be that Miranda doesn't care. That's not the point about it. The point is that Bioware felt the need to make her less than she was to pander to the common tendency to deny sympathy to those more competent or in any way better than the average.



To me her being infertile only underlines the fact that nobody is or ever will be perfect. Yes, she looks stunning, yes, she has biotic abilities and several other things that make her superior in many ways, but there's still something that makes her human. It may very well be one of the sources of all her psychological problems. Also, LotSB suggests that she DOES care as she obviously wanted to know whether there were treatment options or not. Plus she apparently tried to get pregnant (I'm referring to that dating network chat log). I think it bothers her because her superiority is how she defines her own person (at least before she meets Shepard). I really hope BioWare developes her character even further because it has so much potential.

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:35

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Will the footage on Bioware TV be on youtube in case I miss it?

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:39

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Rawke wrote...
To me her being infertile only underlines the fact that nobody is or ever will be perfect. Yes, she looks stunning, yes, she has biotic abilities and several other things that make her superior in many ways, but there's still something that makes her human.

But she didn't need infertility for that. Her love for her sister (and possibly Shepard), her willingness to sacrifice anything for her, the concern that she shows for those working under her, her self esteem issues already made her human. And the fact that she was mistaken about Niket and Cerberus proves that she is not perfect.
The infertility was just unnacessary and, quite possibly, the lowest common denominator of "female problems"

Modifié par MisterJB, 07 juin 2011 - 09:41 .

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:45

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http://twitter.com/#...203156202401792
"Great episode coming up at around 4pm today. behind closed doors of the #MassEffect3 #E3 demo! #biowarepulse"

So delayed 1 hour to 7PM EST

Im hoping for a new demo...we have yet to see the 4th demo
We have seen the one with Mordin, Legion and Earth
One more to go...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juin 2011 - 09:46 .

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:47

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Souta wrote...

Hi Everyone:D
I want to support my favorite Character from the Mass Effect Universe:wub:
I really hope they show something new on BioWare TV

Welcome, always good to see new Miranda fans.

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:47

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MisterJB wrote...

Rawke wrote...
To me her being infertile only underlines the fact that nobody is or ever will be perfect. Yes, she looks stunning, yes, she has biotic abilities and several other things that make her superior in many ways, but there's still something that makes her human.

But she didn't need infertility for that. Her love for her sister (and possibly Shepard), her willingness to sacrifice anything for her, the concern that she shows for those working under her, her self esteem issues already made her human. And the fact that she was mistaken about Niket and Cerberus proves that she is not perfect.
The infertility was just unnacessary and, quite possibly, the lowest common denominator of "female problems"


I can see your point. Personally, it doesn't really bother me. Wether it's unnecessary or not depends on your personal opinion I think it's something that helps define her character further. Others may disagree. We'll see if and how the topic is handled in ME3.

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 09:57

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If you have facebook....

http://www.facebook....&type=1
"Let us know which screenshots you would like to see in the future."


Closing in on 600 pages from all this E3 discussion

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juin 2011 - 10:34 .

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Td1984
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:29

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It was all of 2 minutes long apparently and no new info.

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TomY90
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:30

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it was pointless clip nothing really shown or announced all they did was talk about grenades but we knew all of that already

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Caihn
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:31

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Yes, an another waste of time.
Now we'll have to wait the Q&A, Thursday. Maybe we'll get new informations.

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Vertigo_1
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:31

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Well...there's a Q&A Thursday...?
I don't know of anymore demos left this E3...
Does anyone know?

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juin 2011 - 11:36 .

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Precursor2552
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:33

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No new info. No new footage.

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MisterJB
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:36

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My reaction, warning NSFW language.


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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:37

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Well...there's a Q&A Thursday...?
I don't know of anymore demos left this E3...
Does anyone know?


No more demos I think.

Yes there is a live Q&A (Hudson for ME3, Dallas for SWTOR): 

Image IPB

Modifié par Yannkee, 07 juin 2011 - 11:38 .

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:37

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That "behind closed doors" was an absolute fail... xD

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:38

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The Q&A is through video only
meaning you have to make a youtube video to ask them questions...

http://masseffect.bi...game/biowaretv/
Info on the left...

SoulfulStarfish wrote...

That "behind closed doors" was an absolute fail... xD


I honestly think that guy is bad for Bioware...

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 07 juin 2011 - 11:38 .

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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:39

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Behind closed doors is kind of a joke. Even devs know that people sneak cameras in.

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Souta
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:39

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Nothing new....
Only Q&A left.....

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:40

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What time is the Q&A tomorrow?

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YNation913
Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:57

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so how many of you are gonna submit a question video for the q&a asking about Miranda?
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