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[aeetos21]

5 by 5 on all my main imports

I wonder though about that "it's not the right time but maybe after" bit. I think it comes down to if you have a romance scene with her in the ER and can call her up to your cabin in end game then YES, she is your LI for ME2. Anything else is too... it could go either way, that's what I'm saying I think.

I still like the conversation of course but I was always more a fan of the: "It doesn't matter, what matters is how we feel..." line. One thing is for sure though, the love interests in ME DEFINITELY go for the badboy lines. I mean it was nice being all friendly and encouraging to Miranda during the initial romance scene but it was sooooo much funner calling her out on being "jealous"

[Vertigo_1]

Here is more ME3 gameplay
Yes there's Sur'Kesh or whatever they call it (I call it Krogan Princess area) but theres more including a new area with Geth and Shepard using Biotics

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 09 juin 2011 - 04:09 .

[snfonseka]

YoCalio wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Only interesting thing I got out of that was that Cerberus is indoctrinated
From squad banter...

Interesting to see how this effects Miranda's story...

Same here. Will they be hunting for her ruthlessly on the side?

So there is a possibility of Miranda been indoctrinated also. Is indoctrination reversible?

[Revan654]

snfonseka wrote...

YoCalio wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Only interesting thing I got out of that was that Cerberus is indoctrinated
From squad banter...

Interesting to see how this effects Miranda's story...

Same here. Will they be hunting for her ruthlessly on the side?

So there is a possibility of Miranda been indoctrinated also. Is indoctrination reversible?

From what I can recall from Mass Effect 1. Yes, It can be reversed. Shiala was indoctrinated but the Thorian reversed it.

[Sledgehammer44mm]

:ph34r:This **** is getting ridiculous. I'm tired of Bioware catering to the Tali fanboy crowed.
I don't mind a lot of them or Tali but it's really lame if she can be a squadmate in all three games and yet Ashley got the shaft in the last ME and now Miranda is going to get the cut in this one maybe.... I'll make sure I won't have to deal with that in ME 3 if it really comes down to it. Grrrr.... just venting. I guess people will always be jealous of good looks and personality. Haters will be haters... to each their own I guess.:wizard:

Modifié par Sledgehammer44mm, 09 juin 2011 - 06:01 .

[aeetos21]

Thorian aside I think it will come down to how far along the person is in terms of indoctrination, as well as the strength of their mind. Benezia and Saren for example were both able to resist the effects of indoctrination to a point before their deaths and each one acknowledged that the reapers had to be stopped, at any cost.

Sooo... I don't believe BW would do that to one of the ME franchise's most popular LI's but I could see Shepard rescuing her from the early stages maybe and freeing her from the reaper's influence.

Of course that doesn't mean everyone would trust her. Like with Shiala you had the choice between trusting her word or executing her. I imagine Shepard will have similar choices to make in ME3.

[100k]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Here is more ME3 gameplay
Yes there's Sur'Kesh or whatever they call it (I call it Krogan Princess area) but theres more including a new area with Geth and Shepard using Biotics

And I thought Miranda could arose me 

[Ieldra]

strive wrote...
I know lots of speculation and looking into the future going on right now.. but I gotta ask what Miranda's fans.. think of the "Damn it you're right" dialogue choice when breaking up with her.

I had never done it until today.. It skyrocketed up to one of my favorite Mass Effect 2 scenes..

Damn it -- you're right.

Shepard lowers his head and shifts around.

Shepard: This isn't the time to be getting involved, is it?

Miranda lifts her head to look at Shepard.

Miranda: No. I don't think it is.

Miranda stands up moves closer to Shepard.

Shepard: Maybe someday, after we save the galaxy?

Miranda and Shepard lightly grip each other's hands. Miranda smiles...

Miranda: Let's see how it goes. Until then... friends?

Shepard nods and Miranda walks back to her desk.

I'm making a save with this option and hoping in ME3 we finally get to be involved.. or better yet why couldn't she of tried to show up anyways before the Omega 4 jump with her mind changed? Considering how TERRIBLE the other two options are in that part of the romance(get you in bed line and the even worse "you want this" lines).

Thoughts? On this particular scene? It felt to me like one of the most romantic parts in the game.. a shame it is the "break up dialogue".

I fully agree. The thing is it doesn't sound like breaking up dialogue but more like a promise for the future. That's what makes it so romantic. I've not been using it because I fear it was intended as a breaking-up dialogue. If I knew that I could continue the romance in ME3 regardless, I'd select that option for my main Shepard. Since my first game of ME3 won't be with my main Shepard, it is even possible I'll replay ME2 from that scene once I know we will get to take up the romance again in ME3 even if we stopped it here.

Both other options in this particular scene are not quite satisfying. I've always said "I just want to get you into bed" is a joke to lighten the mood, but even so it's not quite satisfactory, and "what matters is how we feel" is so incredibly cheesy that I can't bring myself to using it. Ever.

So.....should it turn out that we can take up the delayed romance again in ME3 after using this option in ME2, my opinion of the romance as a whole will go up considerably. Not that I really dislike it at the moment, but the options in this part of the scene in particular have always been less than satisfactory.

[Master Shiori]

Sledgehammer44mm wrote...

:ph34r:This **** is getting ridiculous. I'm tired of Bioware catering to the Tali fanboy crowed.
I don't mind a lot of them or Tali but it's really lame if she can be a squadmate in all three games and yet Ashley got the shaft in the last ME and now Miranda is going to get the cut in this one maybe.... I'll make sure I won't have to deal with that in ME 3 if it really comes down to it. Grrrr.... just venting. I guess people will always be jealous of good looks and personality. Haters will be haters... to each their own I guess.:wizard:

I like Tali as a character, but if I had a choice I'd pick Legion or Kasumi as my  ME3 tech expert over Tali any day. Hopefully Miranda will have an important part to play in ME3, based on Cerberus being one of the main anatagonists for Shepard and I hope we get plenty of dialogue with her. Romantic or otherwise. :innocent:

[aeetos21]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Both other options in this particular scene are not quite satisfying. I've always said "I just want to get you into bed" is a joke to lighten the mood, but even so it's not quite satisfactory, and "what matters is how we feel" is so incredibly cheesy that I can't bring myself to using it. Ever.

Not cheesy, just...

**** it, it's cheesy but, well,l who says cheesy has to be a BAD thing?

[Ieldra]

aeetos21 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Both other options in this particular scene are not quite satisfying. I've always said "I just want to get you into bed" is a joke to lighten the mood, but even so it's not quite satisfactory, and "what matters is how we feel" is so incredibly cheesy that I can't bring myself to using it. Ever.

Not cheesy, just...

**** it, it's cheesy but, well,l who says cheesy has to be a BAD thing?

Cheesiness is almost always bad

Seriously, the thing is I don't think Miranda would be convinced by that, because it's plainly not true. However much they'd want it to be, there are other considerations, and Miranda would be the last person to discount them without thinking about it. If Shepard had said "Can't you let your self-analysis go for even a second. People do, you know?" I can see her laughing self-deprecatingly and answering that this is who she is, but that he has a point. But "what matters is how we feel"? No, not that.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 09 juin 2011 - 12:02 .

[jtav]

I love cheese, but with the exception of "Don't die" Miranda's romance fails to work for me. It's a credit to her character concept that I keep trying. She appeals to me as a romantic heroine, but not as Shepard's LI.

Though I likely will give up if ME3 gives me Kaidan/Miranda fodder or she reconciles with Jacob.

[jtav]

Here's what I would do if it were me in ME3.

Have Miranda join the squad semi-permanently to help Shepard take down Cerberus. Give her loads of tension with the VS. They represent the two phases of Shepard's mission so far. The VS would much rather she be interrogated and confined. She's upset because the VS' likely role as Shepard's right hand reminds her of the authority she no longer has and she's still no friend of the Alliance. Season liberally with jealousy or sexual tension, as appropriate. They become the angel and devil on your shoulder.

[Errol Dnamyx]

jtav wrote...

Here's what I would do if it were me in ME3.

Have Miranda join the squad semi-permanently to help Shepard take down Cerberus. Give her loads of tension with the VS. They represent the two phases of Shepard's mission so far. The VS would much rather she be interrogated and confined. She's upset because the VS' likely role as Shepard's right hand reminds her of the authority she no longer has and she's still no friend of the Alliance. Season liberally with jealousy or sexual tension, as appropriate. They become the angel and devil on your shoulder.

This I would like... With two Spectre's on board, she only holds as much authority as Shepard is willing to grant her.

[jtav]

And that authority would be informal out of necessity. Do you really think the crew (as opposed to the squad) would take orders from an ex-terrorist whose former colleagues are working with the Reapers? She's there on Shepard's sufferance. And that will gnaw at her. Cue her character arc.

[Prudii Aden]

It also depends on whether the old crew is around or not. If the old crew is still around, then I can't see them having issues with Miranda's authority - the Virmire survivor? That's a separate kettle of fish.

[jtav]

I'm referring to the ship crew. Joker won't, but Random Ensign sure would.

[Prudii Aden]

jtav - the crew I'm talking about is Mess Sargeant Gardner and co. If they're still on the Normandy, then I'd say Miranda would have a far easier time than the Virmire survivor.

[Jebel Krong]

jtav wrote...

I love cheese, but with the exception of "Don't die" Miranda's romance fails to work for me. It's a credit to her character concept that I keep trying. She appeals to me as a romantic heroine, but not as Shepard's LI.

Though I likely will give up if ME3 gives me Kaidan/Miranda fodder or she reconciles with Jacob.

reconciling with jacob would be the definition of cheese - they both made that clear in me2 - the characters are arcing away from that, not towards.

personally i found shep/miranda's romance the best in any game so far - it's a little truncated, to be expected, but the progression is there and there is room for some play - from serious to affectionate-mocking/teasing. the unusual thing is the strong nature of both characters, whereas the other romances all have shepard as clearly dominant.

[jtav]

I suspect the Cerberus crew would follow her into hell if they survived, but the new crew is almost certainly Alliance.

That would be a great moment: she's with the survivors of Lazarus Cell and one of them says that any of them would gladly follow her into hell. Nit because she's charismatic, but because she saw them and their families through. Nice, touching callback to her insecurity.

[YoCalio]

Jebel Krong wrote...

personally i found shep/miranda's romance the best in any game so far - it's a little truncated, to be expected, but the progression is there and there is room for some play - from serious to affectionate-mocking/teasing. the unusual thing is the strong nature of both characters, whereas the other romances all have shepard as clearly dominant.

This!

[Vertigo_1]

You know if they offer the option to have either the Spectre or Miranda on the ship I would take Miranda in a heart beat.

If on the other hand you can have both but there's tension between them I would take Miranda's side all the time over the VS. This option I am looking forward to the most...
Damn usurpers!

[Vertigo_1]

Well the response given for ME2 romances seems ok to me...

[Td1984]

Also, keep in mind we've been told that we can RP against the Alliance. Which to me would indicate we get to do a lot of picking & choosing. I would definitely show more loyalty to my ME2 crew. I'll help out Miranda first chance I get and if possible, restore her as my XO. Nothing against the crew that's been there since the beginning. However, since Miranda is my LI, I have to show loyalty to those who are loyal to her, as they know how she truly is (VS- likely Ash, won't trust her at all).

[B3NGU1N]

Just a quick question about the Miri romace.

When I get to the "dont die" scene, there are 3 options prior. She says "I dont knnow what this is" and sits on the bed. Shepard can then say 3 things, like "love?", "dont know, dont care" and "Damn it - your right"

I want to RP, and i would say "damn it- your right", but does this end the romance? Thanks for any help