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[jtav]

So, if the nature and extent of Miranda's role is affected by past choices, how would you like the role to vary? For instance, if she resigned, she's on the run. If not, she's working to subvert Cerberus from within.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

So, if the nature and extent of Miranda's role is affected by past choices, how would you like the role to vary? For instance, if she resigned, she's on the run. If not, she's working to subvert Cerberus from within.

This seems plausible to me
At one specific area we either meet with her and a Cerberus team out to get us (which point she turns on them)
Or
She's on the run from a Cerberus unit (those elite troopers you see in the GI article)

[Ieldra]

Hmm. I'd like to imagine that she has her own network of contacts within Cerberus, loyal to her, or at least loyal to her unless indoctrinated, and that she'll be able to use that network to get important information in both scenarios.
I also cannot imagine that she'll take part in an operation against Shepard, unless it is to get out from under Cerberus' surveillance.
The "either on the run or part of an operation" scenario seems possible but a little simplistic to me. I hope it's something more interesting. I don't have a striking idea at the moment though.

[Vertigo_1]

Hmm, was Lenteia a Cerberus contact or just her personal contact during her loyalty mission?
She could be a part of her story arc in ME3...

[Td1984]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Hmm, was Lenteia a Cerberus contact or just her personal contact during her loyalty mission?
She could be a part of her story arc in ME3...

Most likely personal, as she's not human and Cerberus tries to avoid hiring non-humans.

[MisterJB]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...378261360132096

"All the squad members from me1 and me2 have a story arc, that's all I can say, but none of them are 'the same'"

This is the best news I've heard in sometime. It soothes my fears of Miranda and Jacob being clones ala Virmire survivor somewhat.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

How dare you all say my Miranda is indoctrinated idea is a dairy product... how dare you! lol

Hearing that each squadmember from ME1 and ME2 will get a story arc all their own is very good news I just hope their idea of a stroy arc isn't "Miranda shows up says hi tells you what she's been up to and then leaves never to be seen from again." That would just blow.

[TomY90]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

How dare you all say my Miranda is indoctrinated idea is a dairy product... how dare you! lol

Hearing that each squadmember from ME1 and ME2 will get a story arc all their own is very good news I just hope their idea of a stroy arc isn't "Miranda shows up says hi tells you what she's been up to and then leaves never to be seen from again." That would just blow.

I would be shocked if that is the case considering the story arc you can see going on with Mordin which involves redeeming himself for what he inflicted on the Krogan race by helping them as much as possible from the demo.

I can imagine Miranda's story arc will either be linked to Jacob Taylors story arc with Cerberus considering there stories have so much in common.

or will be involving her DNA which could possibly be her father or finding out her father lied about not having a mother and you help her find her.

or it will (i know everyone says it  but very likely to happen) that you have to approach her father by either saving Oriana or simply get intel from him about cerberus.

Finally could be one involving Oriana whether its her finding out what abilities she has that she did not know about or even just freeing her from cerberus (due to cerberus was watching her to maintain miranda's loyalty)

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

Sigh...I am completely disappoint at the complete lack of Miranda news. Also, indoctrinated Miranda is kinda crappy...it just feels like BW is slapping us in the face and laughing at us if they dared to make her indoctrinated. And how on earth would Miri even get herself indoctrinated in the first place?

In other news, yet another fanfic kills off Miranda, no big surprise there. That makes it what, the 20th fanfic to have done so?

P.S Did anyone even ask any questions about Miranda via video on thursday?

[Vertigo_1]

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...
P.S Did anyone even ask any questions about Miranda via video on thursday?

Yes a question was asked about ME2 romances (Miranda, Thane, etc) having a resolution in ME3

Casey said yeah there would be a resolution to all romances including those from ME2

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 juin 2011 - 11:52 .

[Caihn]

[quote]MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

Sigh...I am completely disappoint at the complete lack of Miranda news. Also, indoctrinated Miranda is kinda crappy...it just feels like BW is slapping us in the face and laughing at us if they dared to make her indoctrinated. And how on earth would Miri even get herself indoctrinated in the first place?
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Indoctrinated Miranda is a ridiculous idea, since she has nothing to do with Cerberus anymore.
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In other news, yet another fanfic kills off Miranda, no big surprise there. That makes it what, the 20th fanfic to have done so?
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Well, that's an another reason why I don't like fanfics. There are enough haters comments in the forums, I don't want to read more haters crap in fanfictions.
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[ISpeakTheTruth]

I hope her story arc has nothing to do with Jacob's. She deserves to have her own story and not have to split it up with that putz. I hope she's either being hunted down by Cerberus along with Shepard or she's tryting to find where TIM is so she can take him out.

Nothing with Jacob... NO!

[TheMarshal]

Yannkee wrote...

Well, that's an another reason why I don't like fanfics. There are enough haters comments in the forums, I don't want to read more haters crap in fanfictions.

Yeah, there certainly is a dearth of Miranda fics that paint her in a positive light, unless they're romance-focused.

[MisterJB]

Yannkee wrote...
Indoctrinated Miranda is a ridiculous idea, since she has nothing to do with Cerberus anymore.

Even if Miranda resigned, she still has enormous intel on Cerberus, possibly old contacts, Cerberus knows where Oriana is, etc.
If she didn't resign...well, she migth still be Cerberus by the time ME3 begins. Thus, subjectable to indocrination

Not that I think Miranda should be indocrinated, just playing Devil's Advocate here. I don't even believe Bioware will bother creating two different storylines for Miranda depending on wheter or not she resigned.
Base destroyed- Cerberus is after Miranda.
Base Intact-Miranda runs from Cerberus when she realizes everyone is becoming indocrinated, Cerberus is still after her.
And so, Bioware covers both choices and all that it has to change are a few dialogue options.

[Vertigo_1]

Pretty much how I see it play out MisterJB
Some dialogue change to account for ME2 choices ofcourse

Edit: which you mentioned already blah

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 12 juin 2011 - 12:42 .

[themark443]

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

Sigh...I am completely disappoint at the complete lack of Miranda news. Also, indoctrinated Miranda is kinda crappy...it just feels like BW is slapping us in the face and laughing at us if they dared to make her indoctrinated. And how on earth would Miri even get herself indoctrinated in the first place?

In other news, yet another fanfic kills off Miranda, no big surprise there. That makes it what, the 20th fanfic to have done so?

P.S Did anyone even ask any questions about Miranda via video on thursday?

You're not the only one. But since ME3 won't be out until next March, I think we can all afford to wait on news. As far as the 'Miranda being indoctrinated theory', its just a theory. I doubt they would pull something like that considering the fanbase and how many people would dig out pitchforks and torches.

About the fanfic, do you mean 'Subject 23'? Saw bits and pieces...felt like vomiting with rage. The less said about it, the better.

While I wait for any other ME3 related news, I'm going back to writing my fic.

Modifié par themark443, 12 juin 2011 - 03:00 .

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

@mark443
Damn right. JosephDucreux, whoever he is, just epically slammed the story. Legendary stuffz.

[themark443]

@Katie
Saw it. That was more than a slam, it was like a nuclear explosion raining down millions of middle fingers.

[Made Nightwing]

I too, am sick of fanfics written from the haters perspective. I wrote one that featured Tali as the bad guy, just to see if the (Rabid) Talimancers could take as well as they give. (BTW: Tali is my third favourite LI after Ashley and Miri)

http://www.fanfictio...Highest_Loyalty

I'm currently working on one that is slightly AU. In it, Miranda and Jack swap their places and development backstories (Jack was recruited by Cerberus at a young age, and Miranda was the test subject at Teltin) but not their origins (Miranda is still the daughter of the 'mysterious Mr. Lawson, and Jack was still kidnapped by Cerberus) I'm trying to show how similar they are, but also the differences that would occur with the swap considering their different personalities.


http://www.fanfictio...1/Changing_Fate

@themark443, JosephDucreux, former Army Ranger and current criminal psychologist, has earned my undying respect for that review. It contains everything that I would like to say, but am prevented by due to a lack of confrontational skills.

Modifié par Made Nightwing, 12 juin 2011 - 03:43 .

[themark443]

@Made Nightwing. I'll take a look at both of those. Plus, the idea of Jack and Miranda switching places sounds interesting.

I'd post a link to mine, but since its something of an OC/Miranda fic...I'll probably get chewed out nine ways from sunday in this thread. There's a link to my FF profile on here but...meh.

A ranger and a criminal psychologist...talk about a double threat.

[Ieldra]

On the subject of Miranda's contacts and variations in her role depending on your decisions:

(1) Miranda's (canonical) general contact network would be mostly personal and not consisting of Cerberus operatives, because that's the nature of contacts. The rest of Cerberus might not even know their identities in many cases. It may be a fallback in case of her fallling out with Cerberus. Miranda's internal Cerberus network is speculation on my part, because I'd imagine anywho who's risen to a prominent position in such an organization would have one to deal with the inevitable internal politics.

(2) I can see Miranda being somewhere in a Cerberus space station at the time when she enters ME3's storyline. Only if she's resigned, she's on the way in, infiltrating in order to extract valuable information, otherwise she's on her way out to escape a Cerberus that she now knows doesn't work for the same cause as she wants to anymore. She may be in a little trouble in both cases and Shepard might be able to help her out. Shepard's help would be significant, but it is extremely important for me that she's not helpless in both cases. In fact, I want her entry to be a badass cutscene!

(3) I can see her in a position where she doesn't trust Shepard only if you didn't do her LM in ME2. There is no other convincing fork for such a development. But it would have to be handled with care to avoid the impression that she lets emotions unduly influence her professional judgment.

(4) I can't see the decision where you make her speak to Oriana or not of having a significant effect on her story arc. Neither would the romance. The continuing or newly developing (for new players) romance could be attached to any scenario where Miranda trusts Shepard, but would have no influence on her role in the main plot.

(5) I can see a decision coming that may influence whether Miranda joins the team after you meet her or not. This may be connected to a main plot decision or just done with Shepard saying "yes, I want you on my team (again)", "I appreciate your skills, but you can do more important things elsewhere" or "No I don't trust you" or something similar. The decision could influence main plot developments in various ways.

[Prudii Aden]

Just read that review and wow. He hit it all.

[Ieldra]

Prudii Aden wrote...
Just read that review and wow. He hit it all.

Would you post a link? I have no idea how to find it otherwise.

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Would you post a link? I have no idea how to find it otherwise.

http://www.fanfiction.net/r/6622631/

Thrid review down

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 12 juin 2011 - 03:19 .

[jtav]

Best response to bad fanfic is to ignore it. Though it's annoyingly hard to find good Miranda fanfiction. She's either a sociopath or a bratty teenager.

Though she is great fun to torture in fanfic.