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More Info on the Upcoming Dragon Age Patch (June 11, 2010)


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#301
Malfi0us

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Really hope you can fix the crashing bug from using Mana Clash and some other spells. Been wanting to play awakenings, but I decided to go through Origins again with a mage which I am loving.. but I can't get very far because of the crashes :/

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So... any new info about when will be the patch avaliable ? (Though not useful to me... i left my cd of installation on my hometwon... 300 KM away from my PC :( )

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So, would the patch probably be released tommorow or the weekend?

Modifié par ItZz NaTh, 17 juin 2010 - 04:43 .


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Malfi0us wrote...

Really hope you can fix the crashing bug from using Mana Clash and some other spells. Been wanting to play awakenings, but I decided to go through Origins again with a mage which I am loving.. but I can't get very far because of the crashes :/


Haha- I know- I've since rolled back to 1.02 but when playing Awakening or Origins with 1.03 I'd actually try to avoid using certain spells, or purposefully try and take out mages ASAP because I'd fear they'd end up crashing my game to desktop!:wizard:

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So is there not even a rough estimate of release date? It going to be another six months or something?

And I hope bows get fixed for Xbox 360.

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Something i'd love to see fixed is framerate drops on the ps3 for instance, annoying to have the game lag as if it was played on a low end pc from time to time, and the crashes.

Like the one i had today in Honnleath; I came up to the "second" encounter and well.. first the game started to become "choppy" and then the ps3 died. Or the picture froze and well.. i had to reboot the ps3. And i had to do that same thing 3 times in a row. Tho it didnt happend at the same place everytime. But well.. seems to be at that encounter tho. After i came past that part the rest of Honnleath played out fine(cant be more specific without giving out spoilers).

But the most annoying thing about the game atm i have to say is the looting. Having to wait everything from 1-5 minutes for the loot to show up on mobs. Sure you might have 1 mob giving loot.. But then you'll have to wait a min or two for the rest of the mobs in that pack to show of their loot. Starting to get on my nerves i have to say.

And ofc you have the choppy feel while walking ofc. Dont know if thats a frame rate issue or what it is.. But the graphic seem to pause a 0.025 sec for every step you take. Makes the game feel like its lagging. Its like the game is locked at 20fps or something? And i hope thats not the case =S.

Im used to playing titles on the ps3 that are pretty far more good looking and bigger than this game is.. And yet it currently feels like im playing a high end game on a low end pc.

I really hope these problems gets fixed. Since im trying to love the game. As i have loved every other Bioware title.
Still, keep up the good work and im looking forward to the rest of the patch note announcement.

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stealing needs fixing badly.

Would like to hear if its coming out in less then half a year.I would be satisfied with a Probably.

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^ Stealing being broken in 1.03 was one of those final nails in the coffin that set me off. It wasn't that stealing was sooooo important but rather that the character team I was using at the time was employing it as one of their prime skills. Really killed my playthrough.

And to break one of the basic game components....well......I thought they'd fix it RIGHT AWAY. And of the course they didn't so ya'll know the rest.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 17 juin 2010 - 09:26 .


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There will be no patch tomorrow...they are still in the testing phase and have to make more announcments regarding performance of the game ( probably a fix for the CTD) plus they probably will anounce more tweaks and bug fixes to the game...



I am ready to wait now...besides as i preach there are other games to play in the meantime.

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Odds are, if we have to wait for this patch for the same length of time we had to wait to even hear about any testing being done, we'll be waiting until November.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

I, for one, don't see the need to catagorize bug fixes into "levels of importance".  Nor do I think this has to be an "either fix this, or else fix that" thing.

The smaller the bug, the easier it is to fix I would think, which means one patch can contain the core game stability fixes  AND a bunch of the lesser 'cosmetic' fixes, which are probably nothing more than simple coding oversights and wouldn't take much dev time to address and squash anyway..


I will assume that this comment comes from someone who has not had to mange complex, interdependent, multi-person projects in heterogeneous technical environments.  If there are infinite resources to devote to the effort, than everything can be "Priority One".  Given that this is the real, not the ideal world, and that someone has to decide how to allocate whatever (by definition, limited) resources they have available, then assigning severity/importance ratings is an essential (and early) step.  "First things first" is a useful tenet, but someone actually has to determine what's "first".

  I see.

 And Is that what they did with the first 3 patches?


Far as I know..having been a tester in a couple or three closed betas,  usually these bugs when they are reported in,  are prioritized according to what effect they have.    Graphical glitches such as the armor and weapon glitches would not be a top priority as long as there are bugs and "memory leaks" affecting game play or stopping game play.

They ARE prioritized according to importance.    Expecting everything to be fixed at once, or because someone complains they want "pretty armor" ...isn't going to change the priorities.  

Game working as it should is more important first off.   Graphical fixes would be secondary to that.    From my prior experience anyway.   As to how Bioware does things...it could be different,  I haven't been in on any closed beta with their products to know how they proceed. :)

Modifié par Feraele, 18 juin 2010 - 07:14 .


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Theres a reason why Sten's wedding clothes that are not clored in are not being patched yet.Ya i think thats more important then an armor fix that at least is colored in.*lol*

Well i hope for at least the steal fix as the next update.I love the dex damage for daggers fix *the edge wont be as useless to me soon*

Also i am having problems downloading all the DA J promo items with the edge.

I can at most get the amulet of war mage and the edge.

They seem to all count as Promo items 2 Yet everytime i try to download them and then unplug my networking they seem to disappear.Then my games are not playable because i can not get them all together.I have tried deleting and redownloading 10 times and has yet to fully work permanently. Maybe look into it?

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Arttis wrote...

Theres a reason why Sten's wedding clothes that are not clored in are not being patched yet.Ya i think thats more important then an armor fix that at least is colored in.*lol*
Well i hope for at least the steal fix as the next update.I love the dex damage for daggers fix *the edge wont be as useless to me soon*
Also i am having problems downloading all the DA J promo items with the edge.
I can at most get the amulet of war mage and the edge.
They seem to all count as Promo items 2 Yet everytime i try to download them and then unplug my networking they seem to disappear.Then my games are not playable because i can not get them all together.I have tried deleting and redownloading 10 times and has yet to fully work permanently. Maybe look into it?


Unless you're playing a full dexterity build, the dagger fix is actually going to lower damage out for 360 users.  The fix won't just add dexterity to the damage calculations, it will halve the contribution from strength/cunning w/lethality at the same time.  Pre fix dagger's scale 100% with strength(before attribute modifier), and afterwards will scale at 50% strength and 50% dexterity(before attibute modifiers), halving the maximum damage output of a dagger.

Fair warning.

Modifié par Nooneyouknow13, 18 juin 2010 - 08:22 .


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Arttis wrote...

Theres a reason why Sten's wedding clothes that are not clored in are not being patched yet.Ya i think thats more important then an armor fix that at least is colored in.*lol*
Well i hope for at least the steal fix as the next update.I love the dex damage for daggers fix *the edge wont be as useless to me soon*
Also i am having problems downloading all the DA J promo items with the edge.
I can at most get the amulet of war mage and the edge.
They seem to all count as Promo items 2 Yet everytime i try to download them and then unplug my networking they seem to disappear.Then my games are not playable because i can not get them all together.I have tried deleting and redownloading 10 times and has yet to fully work permanently. Maybe look into it?


I am on the 360 and appear to have the same problem. If im not connected to xbox live i cant play DAO because it says an item is missing, it dosent help trying to download the item again it just says the same thing. BTW its usually Helm of the Deep thats the problem 

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Nooneyouknow13 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Theres a reason why Sten's wedding clothes that are not clored in are not being patched yet.Ya i think thats more important then an armor fix that at least is colored in.*lol*
Well i hope for at least the steal fix as the next update.I love the dex damage for daggers fix *the edge wont be as useless to me soon*
Also i am having problems downloading all the DA J promo items with the edge.
I can at most get the amulet of war mage and the edge.
They seem to all count as Promo items 2 Yet everytime i try to download them and then unplug my networking they seem to disappear.Then my games are not playable because i can not get them all together.I have tried deleting and redownloading 10 times and has yet to fully work permanently. Maybe look into it?


Unless you're playing a full dexterity build, the dagger fix is actually going to lower damage out for 360 users.  The fix won't just add dexterity to the damage calculations, it will halve the contribution from strength/cunning w/lethality at the same time.  Pre fix dagger's scale 100% with strength(before attribute modifier), and afterwards will scale at 50% strength and 50% dexterity(before attibute modifiers), halving the maximum damage output of a dagger.

Fair warning.

Dex build is the one i want to make.
survivability+ good damage.
Otherwise i have to manage aggro as a rogue which can be hard for me without a tank that can handle taunting all the enemies.*i try to play the game without mage heals and making tons of health pots/at max i limit myself to 50 lesser and anything higher i find per main plot*

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ItZz NaTh wrote...

So, would the patch probably be released tommorow or the weekend?

What you are after is already out, enjoy the crashes and glory of v1.03 now :)

I mean, stop asking them "WHEN DOES v1.04 COMES OUT!" "I WANT IT NOW" IT HASN'T PASSED Q&A OR HAD ALL FIXES DEVELOPED YET!!! They can not possibly know or estimate until they know what they intend to fix, what they have fixed or what has been verified to be fixed via Q&A.


Think of wanting a hot coffee from a coffee pot that hasn't reached boiling temperature yet, Sure you can have have your coffee NOW it's just it won't be hot. Thats essentially what everyone asking for an ETA is trying to make happen with v1.04, get them to release it before it has been properly developed or tested.

Considering the problems v1.03 created, I wouldn't put it past them to dedicate a whole week to test each bug fix and make sure it works with there being 1 or 2 months dedicated to playing through the whole game and testing it as a whole fo bugs.

Modifié par Franpa, 18 juin 2010 - 09:42 .


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Kail Ashton

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Well a rough estimate for the Patch release would be around the time the Leliana DLC comes out, they always squeeze those patches in just before the dlc hits, so there you go, that's as close to a release date as you'll get

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To bad the patch wont likely fix the crappy placement of some of the on screen text that goes under the portrait of your fourth group member that makes reading it impossible. I caught this during Darkspawn when the Arch demon “talks to you” and now that I got it in Awakenings I see it’s a problem that’s been around for a while.

Must be nice not to use play testers for these last few games (ME2, Dragon Age Origins, Awakenings and all downloads for them) or just ignore what they find. Wonder if its budget cuts or EA’s doing…

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ItZz NaTh wrote...

So, would the patch probably be released tommorow or the weekend?


the patch comes out 02.01.11
hah no... well i hope not:D
but it probably will come out the next month or so

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Kail Ashton wrote...

Well a rough estimate for the Patch release would be around the time the Leliana DLC comes out, they always squeeze those patches in just before the dlc hits, so there you go, that's as close to a release date as you'll get

Not really, depends on what the DLC uses and anyways it will likely take longer if they truely are trying to fix the game up.

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Tilestone wrote...

Something i'd love to see fixed is framerate drops on the ps3 for instance, annoying to have the game lag as if it was played on a low end pc from time to time, and the crashes.

Like the one i had today in Honnleath; I came up to the "second" encounter and well.. first the game started to become "choppy" and then the ps3 died. Or the picture froze and well.. i had to reboot the ps3. And i had to do that same thing 3 times in a row. Tho it didnt happend at the same place everytime. But well.. seems to be at that encounter tho. After i came past that part the rest of Honnleath played out fine(cant be more specific without giving out spoilers).

But the most annoying thing about the game atm i have to say is the looting. Having to wait everything from 1-5 minutes for the loot to show up on mobs. Sure you might have 1 mob giving loot.. But then you'll have to wait a min or two for the rest of the mobs in that pack to show of their loot. Starting to get on my nerves i have to say.

And ofc you have the choppy feel while walking ofc. Dont know if thats a frame rate issue or what it is.. But the graphic seem to pause a 0.025 sec for every step you take. Makes the game feel like its lagging. Its like the game is locked at 20fps or something? And i hope thats not the case =S.

Im used to playing titles on the ps3 that are pretty far more good looking and bigger than this game is.. And yet it currently feels like im playing a high end game on a low end pc.

I really hope these problems gets fixed. Since im trying to love the game. As i have loved every other Bioware title.
Still, keep up the good work and im looking forward to the rest of the patch note announcement.


Couldn't agree with you more.

#322
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Oh great... Why can't they just give us the testing so that we r happy n they r getting somewhere :P



Anyhow, i would prefere to ask a question.



Is there a bug with a rogues dexterity? On my lv17 her 38 dex dnt rlly do much defence. Is this because im poorly choosing my stats or is it a bug?

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Victor Wachter wrote...

Testing is continuing along, and we are hoping to deliver some word on some PC improvements next week. When we get closer to being able to set a release date, we will update you on that as well.


I know "hope" does not equal "guarantee", but it is "next week" now.......

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Oh and the Sentinel Armor texture, remember that.

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They usually announce something at the end of their workday. In Edmonton Alberta it is roughly midday as we speak..so do not expect something for and 4-5 hours...this is what happened last week..it was around 8:00 pm my time before i saw this thread coming up...just be patient...if they have an update it will be posted soon enough...