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[AClockworkMelon]

Why'd they reduce the size of signatures?

Am I the only one seeing them in miniature?

[Dennis Carpenter]

AClockworkMelon wrote...

Why'd they reduce the size of signatures?

Am I the only one seeing them in miniature?

not sure but I just got mine today and posted it thanks to NewYears1978 so I hadn't noticed if the were larger before today.

Modifié par Dennis Carpenter, 21 octobre 2009 - 02:08 .

[NewYears1978]

Yeah I just noticed it..now all the ones I made for people(including you two above, and my own) are worthless..pretty upset about it...made the time a bit wasted...

Why would they do that without at least posting something about it first...such crap.


50px was already a very limiting height..yet good balance for those that do not like signatures...now they've added a smaller height and width it appears..and also instead of cutting them off, if they are larger it just shrinks them to oblivion... 

If they were going to do something like this they should have just not let us have sigs in the first place..

The "social" aspect of this place has just been dropped a notch.  (sorry if I am being too harsh over a small issue, but I spent a lot of time on sigs for people..)

Modifié par NewYears1978, 21 octobre 2009 - 02:09 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

I think some people were complaining about all the sigs and wanted some way to turn them off so instead of adding that option they just decided to shrink them. Personally I love min and thanks NY for making it.

[NewYears1978]

I understand people not wanting them...but shrinking them into crap...I don't get. Forums always have sigs (mostly) and I don't see what the big deal is..if you don't like them..don't look at them..they're not bothering you..especially small filesized ones..

I mean Avatars are larger and as obtrusive as Signatures..so should I start complaining that I don't like avatars?

*sigh*


BTW Dennis, you have a blue border around yours because you linked it wrong..you linked it as a URL..  remove the URL portion of your sig ...

All you need is the img tags with the URL in the middle...not the URL tags...if that makes sense.

Modifié par NewYears1978, 21 octobre 2009 - 02:14 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

ok I will go back and see if I can fix that though when i see it it looks like a gold border

[AClockworkMelon]

Jesus. Are people really upset about a picture that's half an inch tall?

[NewYears1978]

Most people will see a blue or purple border...default link colors for HTML..and it's not flattering..of course the sig being shrunk is messed up now anyways. Actually yours looks okay..just the text is jumbled...
I'm pretty upset about the whole size change..I think it's ridiculous..

AClockworkMelon wrote...

Jesus. Are people really upset about a picture that's half an inch tall?

I know..it's really pathetic...  Maybe it's temporary....but I doubt it..  Would have been nice for an official post about it.

Modifié par NewYears1978, 21 octobre 2009 - 02:20 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

hey thanks I might get the hang of this techno stuff yet...............NOT ;-P

[NewYears1978]

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

hey thanks I might get the hang of this techno stuff yet...............NOT ;-P

Hahah nah, you never will, just like most non-techy people.  I'm a web designer and a semi graphics person..so I know al ittle...not the smartest but I get by.

[Dennis Carpenter]

Yeah I cant remember what forum i was in but it was a couple of days ago maybe a day before I asked you NY to work on mine that i saw a thread where people were complaining. I think it was in the forums under the tech stuff.

[NewYears1978]

I just don't get it..why complain about a 50px high signature... so stupid..people are such jerks..do they really bother people that much? For real..stupid..

Modifié par NewYears1978, 21 octobre 2009 - 02:23 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

You know the hardest part of this tech stuf is the fact I have limited gray matter to work with born in the 40's raised in the 50's and 60's ..vietnam Agent orange.....Mid life crisis ...male menopause ..its a wonder I have any gray matter left to work with. ;-)

[Dennis Carpenter]

gonna run over to the tech forums and see if I can find any posts

[Dennis Carpenter]

http://social.biowar...ic/9/index/6152 I believe this was the post that started it

Snoteye's original rant ballooned into a seperate discussion and maybe another topic got opened up or the mods noticed it or even possibly someone contacted them hard to tell but if you go back to that thread you can see what I mean.

[Jesse van Herk]

Please note that the big blue "BETA" at the top of every page of this site indicates that things can and will be changed without notice. Please take such changes with a grain of salt - usually they are an experiment or a bugfix, and they may be reverted, kept, or be changed further.



In the case of the sig images, we added size limits to prevent abuse - the limits chosen were probably overzealous. They'll get changed one way or the other in the next few days.

[OwenM]

See? Evolving concept. XD



Also, it'd be nice if we could upload our own avatar pictures, rather than just our characters or the presets....jus' sayin'.

[NewYears1978]

Jesse van Herk wrote...

Please note that the big blue "BETA" at the top of every page of this site indicates that things can and will be changed without notice. Please take such changes with a grain of salt - usually they are an experiment or a bugfix, and they may be reverted, kept, or be changed further.

In the case of the sig images, we added size limits to prevent abuse - the limits chosen were probably overzealous. They'll get changed one way or the other in the next few days.

Thanks for the reply Jesse, appreciate it.

[Snoteye]

I feel the need to stress that I -- and I'm willing to bet almost everyone who is against pictures in signatures -- have nothing against signatures. Signatures can be funny and silly and clever and just plain stupid, but they will very rarely be obtrusive. Pictures in signatures will be appreciated, even loved, by those who like them and hated by everyone else.

It's not just pedantry. I believe a hypothetical option to hide signatures, as much as it would do towards "solving the issue," as it were, fails to address the real problem. The same way, although I do appreciate the current size limit (because it does help), I think the restriction is ultimately missing the mark.

I do not want to be an arse about it and I'm sorry you feel slighted by this, but to me that one tag has a severe impact on both usability and user experience.

AClockworkMelon wrote...

Jesus. Are people really upset about a picture that's half an inch tall?

Not me. I'm upset about all pictures.

NewYears1978 wrote...

I just don't get it..why complain about a 50px high signature...

We all have to be here. That means we all have to make sacrifices. I know I was spoiled by BioBoards and I don't expect the same level of... I'm inclined to say "professionalism" though that's not really fair, here, but keep in mind that we're not all here for the social aspects of the site. Those of us who are not -- allow me to generalize -- prefer to keep our real interests (being primarily the forums) detached from the proverbial yours. That way, everyone can appreciate this new wonder that is Dragonbook (courtesy of SardaukarElite). Besides, it's not as if there aren't already plenty of ways to share your art with fellow users, along with hundreds of boards that do allow the IMG tag -- I fail see why it must be shoved in the faces of those of us who just don't care about it.

OwenM wrote...

Also, it'd be nice if we could upload our own avatar pictures, rather than just our characters or the presets....jus' sayin'.

Assuming it's a matter of principles, I admit I have some difficulty seeing why we can't upload our own portraits if they intend to retain the IMG tag. I'm guessing it also has to do with practical and legal issues about hosting, for one.

[Mordaedil]

I see. Thanks a lot, I won't do something outright dumb like delete my signatures then.

Oh wait... Well, at least I have backups at work, so I'll work with you on meeting a happy medium.

As it was, I couldn't read the poor text on my picture, which was the appeal, I think. Small signatures are nice.


It's a bit more disturbing when large IMG tags can break the site format. That'd be also cool if could be limited to fit into the div-tags.

Apparently forums no likey these: ><

Modifié par Mordaedil, 21 octobre 2009 - 08:38 .

[Maria Caliban]

It doesn't surprise me that people who frequent the BioBoards are uncomfortable with forum elements that became standard five years ago. However, as someone who can say she was raised on the internet (a scary thought) this doesn't bother me.

Signatures pre-date the signature field. They're the product of people habitually adding their name to the bottom of the post. Then some people added their name and a cute saying, or a cute saying in an eye-bleeding clash of fonts, or an image.

BioWare is simply giving us the chance to be old school with our signatures. I just made a txt file on my desktop with a sig I can c+p into the end of every post. It's very retro; I now have the urge to switch off my modem then turn it on again and make screeching noises as my DSL connects.

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Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 octobre 2009 - 10:48 .

[Mordaedil]

I was under the impression image-signatures were quite common more than 10 years ago.

Though I wonder how long Internet has actually been around, I've been around for more than half its lifespan, but it feels like I'm still new at times.

[Maria Caliban]

I recall in 2001 a forum I was on was upgraded to use avatars and there was a great deal of grumbling about how the images had started dominating the text and downgrading the conversation. It was definately seen as 'fresh' and 'new' then.

A good indication of when something becomes standard would be 6-12 months after it's introduced in phpbb or vbulletin as together they make up the bulk of BB software.

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Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 octobre 2009 - 11:05 .

[Mordaedil]

That would make sense. Heh, change sure scares some people, doesn't it...

I notice your signature recovered now however, while mine does not. Weird.

[Snoteye]

Maria Caliban wrote...

It doesn't surprise me that people who frequent the BioBoards are uncomfortable with forum elements that became standard five years ago. However, as someone who can say she was raised on the internet (a scary thought) this doesn't bother me.

For what it's worth, I've been mostly raised on the Internet as well. My conservative stance is not because I'm a grouchy old sourpot, stuck in his own little corner of the web.

Mordaedil wrote...

I notice your signature recovered now however, while mine does not. Weird.

No, it hasn't. She's inserting it manually now. She's actually supporting my argument against.