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[Mordaedil]

Snoteye wrote...

Mordaedil wrote...

I notice your signature recovered now however, while mine does not. Weird.

No, it hasn't. She's inserting it manually now. She's actually supporting my argument against.

*facepalm*

I can't believe I somehow missed that. That's it, I'm lying down when I get back from work.

[Sunjammer]

To reverse a cliché "one man's treasure is another man's trash".

I don't much care what size graphical signatures are: regardless of size they are all unnecessary white noise which, at the very least, we should have the option to filter out. The two packages mentioned above as representing the standard both offer the options to hide avatars and signatures so presumably no one would have any objection to these features being added.

Of course these options won't address those inconsiderate enough embed their signatures in body of their post but for those, hopefully rare, individuals there's always adblock!

Modifié par Sunjammer, 21 octobre 2009 - 12:11 .

[Maria Caliban]

Snoteye wrote...

For what it's worth, I've been mostly raised on the Internet as well. My conservative stance is not because I'm a grouchy old sourpot, stuck in his own little corner of the web.

There are a number of reasons one might not like images on a BB, but whatever the reason, it’s not surprising that someone that frequented the old BioBoards prefers a forum sans pictures.

No, it hasn't. She's inserting it manually now. She's actually supporting my argument against.

I’m supporting your argument?


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Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 octobre 2009 - 12:14 .

[Snoteye]

Maria Caliban wrote...

There are a number of reasons one might not like images on a BB, but whatever the reason, it’s not surprising that someone that frequented the old BioBoards prefers a forum sans pictures.

I don't know, I imagine many pro-image users also frequented the original DA:O forums. Maybe not, it's not like I'd be able to recognize any of them. It is certainly true that a fair share of users that frequented BioBoards probably did so because they were old-fashioned.

Maria Caliban wrote...

I’m supporting your argument?

When the picture doesn't fit within the coded restrictions, circumvent the coded restrictions entirely. After all, how is that any different from CP's :evil: or the old OT crew's elements? And as long as the code allows it it's not abuse. Sure, it's a hassle having to do it manually, but I have no doubt a number of people would be willing to do it. The only two ways to avoid that is to resize all pictures or block them entirely.

Of course, they may not want to do either, in which case they may as well remove all signature restrictions including the hardcoded height upper bound.

Modifié par Snoteye, 21 octobre 2009 - 12:32 .

[Maria Caliban]

Snoteye wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

There are a number of reasons one might not like images on a BB, but whatever the reason, it’s not surprising that someone that frequented the old BioBoards prefers a forum sans pictures.

I don't know, I imagine many pro-image users also frequented the original DA:O forums. Maybe not, it's not like I'd be able to recognize any of them.

Snoteye, we talked on the old boards over three years. Don’t you recognize me? It’s Maria!

Maria Caliban wrote...

I’m supporting your argument?

When the picture doesn't fit within the coded restrictions, circumvent the coded restrictions entirely. After all, how is that any different from CP's :evil: or the old OT crew's elements? And as long as the code allows it it's not abuse. Sure, it's a hassle having to do it manually, but I have no doubt a number of people would be willing to do it. The only two ways to avoid that is to resize all pictures or block them entirely.

Of course, they may not want to do either, in which case they may as well remove all signature restrictions including the hardcoded height upper bound.

I can only imagine a few people willing to do so manually. People have gotten used to everything being handled automatically.

However, auto-thumbnailing can be very useful. The Obsidian boards do it and they’re some of the best forums I’ve frequented.


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[Errel]

Right, manual it is for now..

Modifié par Errel, 21 octobre 2009 - 12:56 .

[Snoteye]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Snoteye, we talked on the old boards over three years. Don’t you recognize me? It’s Maria!

But I don't recognize you from the DA:O boards.

Maria Caliban wrote...

I can only imagine a few people willing to do so manually. People have gotten used to everything being handled automatically.

I admit, I don't exactly think it would be a huge problem.

Maria Caliban wrote...

However, auto-thumbnailing can be very useful. The Obsidian boards do it and they’re some of the best forums I’ve frequented.

Never visited there but I know vBulletin has a similar feature (although only when using attachments).

[Robert Emerald]

Dennis Carpenter wrote...

hey thanks I might get the hang of this techno stuff yet...............NOT ;-P

It's not our fault Dennis, we weren't raised with computers. We had typewriters in our day.

[flem1]

OwenM wrote...

Also, it'd be nice if we could upload our own avatar pictures, rather than just our characters or the presets....jus' sayin'.

No.  Just... no.

[NewYears1978]

Maria, you're my hero.

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Modifié par NewYears1978, 21 octobre 2009 - 01:48 .

[Dennis Carpenter]

Jesse van Herk wrote...

Please note that the big blue "BETA" at the top of every page of this site indicates that things can and will be changed without notice. Please take such changes with a grain of salt - usually they are an experiment or a bugfix, and they may be reverted, kept, or be changed further.

In the case of the sig images, we added size limits to prevent abuse - the limits chosen were probably overzealous. They'll get changed one way or the other in the next few days.

Thank you for your response, it seems that from reading this thread you would think there are more people who hate sigs then there are who would want to use them. A Poll of who wants and who doesn't might help but from reading the various threads it would seem to me that if the margin is so large in favor of those who dont want it, that in itself would make the margin of those who have them so small as to not really cause a problem because there aren't that many posting. Now if the margin were closer then I would bow to the majority. If it is the oposite and their are more who like it then it should stay....Is it really that much different to look at a picture or take time to read a signature    "There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand and those who are wrong. "    and some of the signature pharases I have seen are even longer so whats the beef really.

Anyway thanks jesse for your help and for allowing me to rant.

[Jesse van Herk]

it'd be nice if we could upload our own avatar pictures

That is a feature that was explicitly removed at the request of our community team and moderators. It will not be re-enabled, so please stop asking.

manual it is for now

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

Modifié par Jesse van Herk, 21 octobre 2009 - 03:34 .

[MrIsidor]

manual it is for now

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

I'm really liking this forum now finding shortcuts to get past rules and regulations should never be rewarded. They're there for a reason.

As for picture signatures, I'm one of those that's never been fond of those. The size here (before the shrinking) was somewhat acceptable though and didn't really bother me, although I would have prefered an option to ignore sigs if that size was kept, or if it's restored to that again.

[Jassper]

Jesse van Herk wrote...

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

You go Jesse

I'd like them to be a bit bigger, but I'm not going to force it. I think being able to upload the character pic is great, so I stopped asking for more portraits since then.

[Maria Caliban]

Jassper wrote...

Jesse van Herk wrote...

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

You go Jesse

Why am I not surprised to see you cheering on me getting banned?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 octobre 2009 - 06:24 .

[Eoweth]

Jassper wrote...

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

You go Jesse

Really?  Cheering for someone being banned (not even warned, just temp banned for a first offense) for something that's not even listed in the FAQ, TOS or Rules as an offense and was done in response to a rather knee jerk and overreacted (beta) change to the boards?  Sucking up to mods is one thing, but cheering them on when they handle a situation like this is something else.

Not cool at all really. <_<

[KethWolfheart]

EDIT - Cleaned up post.  Not worth getting heated over.

It is to bad some people are making a stink over this but I suppose its to be expected.  It actually surprised me anyone even has an issue with these small siganutes.  I can understand the large ones but ... in a visual gaming atmosphere I like some art.

Modifié par KethWolfheart, 22 octobre 2009 - 12:12 .

[Kepha]

I usually don't mind static images, but often those end up leading to people having animations in their sigs and that drives me batty. Nothing worse then trying to read a post and having the eye keep jumping to something moving further down the page.

[Mordaedil]

I didn't even know there was bad blood between Maria and Jassper.

Though it seems to me that it worked out well, with them both being unbanned relatively soon after.

Well, I'm looking forward to when signatures get a bit extra height, so I can adjust mine properly without being unreadable, since that's kinda the "funny" about my signature.

[Gavindole]

I don't like it when signatures are bigger than the post itself, and I'm not a big fan of images in the sigs, but I can deal with it. An option from some board I liked was only showing the sig the first time it appeared on a page. That way you can still see sigs but don't have to see the same ones over and over.

[Dennis Carpenter]

Jesse van Herk wrote...

it'd be nice if we could upload our own avatar pictures

That is a feature that was explicitly removed at the request of our community team and moderators. It will not be re-enabled, so please stop asking.

manual it is for now

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

Disappointed in the automatic ban thought you would have posted something like please remove the manually inserted signature or you will be banned until you do. Seems I would have been much more diplomatic  and less Kneejerk

But still thanks for the great work you guys do on these forums.

[Lord Clocks]

When you guys stop crying about the moderators / Bioware enforcing something they already made an administrative change to enforce, I think the community will be served a lot better.

1) Not everything that someone is requested not to do is in the ToS. ToS is a legal document of sorts governing basic use of the site. That being said, please refer to section 3: "EA reserves the right to remove Content that is objectionable to us for any reason. The decision to remove Content is in EA's sole and final discretion." and section 10 "You may violate the Terms of Service if you... - Interfere with the ability of others to enjoy playing an EA Service or take actions that interfere with or materially increase the cost to provide an EA Service for the enjoyment of all its users...Specific EA Services may also post additional rules that apply to your conduct on those services."

2) A gentle temp ban IS an interim measure between the nicey-nice politically worded warning like you seem to expect (who do you think bioware is, your grandmother?) and what they could have done for you intentionally circumventing explicit technically implemented limitations (outright ban, loss of data from your account, etc).

Modifié par Lord Clocks, 23 octobre 2009 - 08:27 .

[Fodder007]

I like the smaller than normal sig size. It just means that sig creaters will have to be more creative with the space they have available. There's nothing worse than opening a forum when at work to be presented with a load of large images when all you're interested in is the text.

[Fodder007]

Jesse van Herk wrote...

manual it is for now

You and maria just earned a temporary ban from the site - we'll let you back in when you stop manually inserting signatures.

Proper forum moderation, I like it!

Although I have to say, if you let them back when they stop manually inserting sigs then you'll have to let them back straight away because they can't insert sigs if they can't get on to the site

[Snoteye]

I was going to let this play itself out but then I randomly came across an entire thread dedicated to signature pictures. That's okay. People sharing art is fine, that doesn't bother anyone. Those who like to create and share (or just view) art can follow the thread, those who have no interest in it can skip it.



So why is it necessary to have both a thread for that specific purpose as well as the actual signatures, well knowing the latter actively bothers people? There are so many methods to share art that don't bother anyone, but this one method clearly does.