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[RobotXYZ]

I think the guy that lead the tower of mages suffered a lot for guys that lived....

Or maybe the guy they turned into an abomination...

I also feel sorry for the tranquils.... I think they should have a character that is abusing tranquils...

Modifié par RobotXYZ, 13 juin 2010 - 12:02 .

[Nero280]

I agree, Irving suffered the most.

[Elhanan]

Tercy; the wife of Lord Harrowmont is one of my favorite, and hold as one of the more exemplary characters in the game. She appears patient, kind, and cares more for others than her own troubles. True; she has little dialogue, but I place this as a trait of soft spoken nobility.

[Relshar]

Couslands parents, they loose everything in one night. And it was all down to treachery by the Howes.

[Asdara]

I assume we mean characters other than our own Warden?



I'd put Irving up there - especially if you rescue him and turn the tower over to the Templars afterwards. That's got to sting.



Hespith got a pretty bad deal... going to be a darkspawn baby-momma in not too short a time. Not really a prospect to be relished after being betrayed into their hands by your own lover and going insane watching the girls go before you eat your friends and loved ones.



There's honestly a lot of suffering going on in every quarter.

[JIEB18181818]

There are many characters who suffered much and everybody, if i can say that, suffered in his own way and a can't say who suffered most, for example Zatrian he lost his family and lived centures with hatred and sorrow of loos of his relatives.Centures without rest.Or Couslands, they lost everything: friends, family...and all this because of betrayal of old friend...

[Elhanan]

King Endrin certainly did not have a good time in this tale. As was mentioned in game, death was probably a relief.

[maxernst]

I would say Hespith.

[DWSmiley]

Elhanan wrote...

Tercy; the wife of Lord Harrowmont is one of my favorite, and hold as one of the more exemplary characters in the game. She appears patient, kind, and cares more for others than her own troubles. True; she has little dialogue, but I place this as a trait of soft spoken nobility.

Ah, so that's who she is!  I figured the fact she has a name meant, well, something.  How did you find out?

[Elhanan]

DWSmiley wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

Tercy; the wife of Lord Harrowmont is one of my favorite, and hold as one of the more exemplary characters in the game. She appears patient, kind, and cares more for others than her own troubles. True; she has little dialogue, but I place this as a trait of soft spoken nobility.

Ah, so that's who she is!  I figured the fact she has a name meant, well, something.  How did you find out?

By speaking to the various characters in Harrowmont's estate including her, someone mentions the relationship, I believe. Perhaps she mentions you helping her husband.

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

I think Anora suffers a lot depending on your RP. Husband gets killed. Father gets beheaded infront of her. Loses throne. Then if you ask for riches and a title you take her family's Teyrn. Damn.

[Elhanan]

Arl Eamon; he awakens from coma to find Isolde is alive, well, and with the same 'outragious accent'....

Modifié par Elhanan, 15 juin 2010 - 07:53 .

[Swoo]

Choose the right (wrong?) choices and I'd put Alistair up there as well.



Never knew his father, lost his adoptive family in the Guerrin's thanks to Isolde, shuffled away to a horrible life in the Chantry, saved by Duncan, lost Duncan, lost the dream of a family thanks to Goldanna, and then can lose his spot and belief in the Grey Wardens, his claim to the throne, and washes up in another land broken and drunken.

[Bahlgan]

Swoo wrote...

Choose the right (wrong?) choices and I'd put Alistair up there as well.

Never knew his father, lost his adoptive family in the Guerrin's thanks to Isolde, shuffled away to a horrible life in the Chantry, saved by Duncan, lost Duncan, lost the dream of a family thanks to Goldanna, and then can lose his spot and belief in the Grey Wardens, his claim to the throne, and washes up in another land broken and drunken.

I second that, assuming you follow those specific steps.

Otherwise I will, and WILL, agree to Fergus and Human Noble having it all gone. Not only are their parents and families gone all in one night, as mentioned before, but Fergus lost his heir to the Cousland Terynir. The Human Noble's only potential son, IF a son, is Morrigan's child who was not born to fit as an heir. Living while knowing your family line might very well die with you and your generation is more than just a heartache but something that might completely screw over your soul. 

I will not deny that Anora gets screwed over badly, UNLESS the Warden convinces Alistair and her to marry, then it might turn around for her.

Modifié par Bahlgan, 15 juin 2010 - 09:23 .

[DaPuma_9]

I would say it has to be either Shianni (from the city elf story who gets kidnapped and rapped by the arl's son)

Fergus, because he loses everything: parents, wife, child, land, and brother/sister (if you sacrifice the main wardern)

or Tamlen (from the dalish elf story) because he gets taken by the darkspawn and becomes dainted and has to beg for mercy to die by his old friend (the main warden)

Modifié par DaPuma_9, 19 juin 2010 - 03:29 .

[Phaelducan]

Second for King Endrin. One son kills another son, then the third son (or daughter) is blamed for it and functionally executed (banished to deep roads). The game intimated that Endrin dies from grief over what happens in the Dwarven Noble origin.

[Elhanan]

Lord Vaughn, as I made certain of it. Same for Arl Howe, for when he says, "I desrrved more", I am happy to comply with the request....

The Shaper, as he has a life dependant on politics and deception; nothing of the Casteless is recorded.

[Gecon]

When I read this stupid thread, I begin to understand why there are people who suddenly complained about how Saddam Hussein was treatet.

Seriously, you believe the big leaders suffered the most ? The people who lead a wealthy and powerful life and only suffered for some hours before their end, like the Cousland parents, who even have a good reason to hope their children will prevail ?

So the poor Saddam Hussein, the dictator, who started a decade long war and killed his own people with gas is the guy who actually suffers, not his victims ?

What about being condemned to be a criminal by birth, even getting branded in the face for it ? Suffering each and every day of your life for something thats not your fault and that you cannot change and that happened so long ago ? Personally I consider that a lot more suffering.

Modifié par Gecon, 19 juin 2010 - 08:19 .

[Phaelducan]

@Gecon So leaders by definition can't suffer? So any non-noble Origin has to have suffered their whole life?



The question was who suffered the most in DAO, not who suffered the most given the context of their various unknown histories that happened off-camera before we see their stories.



You are trying to quantify the difference between socio-economic status and having family members murdered. That's absurd.

[Elhanan]

The King's wiper....

Owen, as he is expected to clean up that mess....

The Halla; main herders appear not to have a single rank in Survival...

[Phaelducan]

"The Halla; main herders appear not to have a single rank in Survival..."



Winner.

[JosieJ]

I think this:

Asdara wrote...
Hespith got a pretty bad deal... going to be a darkspawn baby-momma in not too short a time. Not really a prospect to be relished after being betrayed into their hands by your own lover and going insane watching the girls go before you eat your friends and loved ones.
 

still outweighs this:

Bahlgan wrote...

I second that, assuming you follow those specific steps.

Otherwise I will, and WILL, agree to Fergus and Human Noble having it all gone. Not only are their parents and families gone all in one night, as mentioned before, but Fergus lost his heir to the Cousland Terynir. 

Especially since Fergus can still have another heir, and the Warden's actions ultimately restore the Cousland fortunes.  Not to minimize the pain of losing your beloved wife, son, and parents (and who knows how many other loved ones living in the castle) in one night,  but at least he a) didn't have to watch them eaten, and has more to look forward to than a 'life' of pumping out darkspawn.

Hespith still wins it, IMO.  Too bad you can't put her out of her misery.

Modifié par JosieJ, 19 juin 2010 - 08:36 .

[Arttis]

City elf origins father

If you pick the more selfish choices.

He marries then his wife is killed.He has a kid hopes for family then his kid gets recruited.Then he finds out his son left the women to be raped for money.When he finally sees his son he is in a cage waiting to be shipped off as a slave.Then his own son decides to let the blood mage live and sacrifice all the elves for a health boost.He dies.

Gotta say thats a long life filled with suffering then ends in a horrible way.

[Elhanan]

Riordin; tortured, imprisoned, and is considered too old for even Morrigan....

Conner; no more cool dreams, running armies, or marmalade. And not even a TV.....

Branka; all those years searching in the Deep Roads to be stopped by some newcomer in a matter of days. Plus, is still married to Oghren....

Oghren; see above....

The poor Darkspawn archers forced to be in the front ranks that charge at Ostagar....

[Arthur Cousland]

Hespith has to be #1 for reasons already posted.

Amethyne has no idea that her mother, Iona is dead, and is now an orphan.  She sits there in the Alienage, waiting for her mom to bring her something back from Highever.

Conner also has it bad if you bargain with the demon. He either gets shipped off to the Circle if you help him, "disappears" if you bargain with the demon, or dies if he gets killed while posessed. If he goes to the circle, he could still fail the harrowing or become tranquiled.

The halla, who may be killed when they were only sad for their friend who was sick, but not sick themself. That quest is reason enough to bring someone with high survival.

Endrin chose to let his second child be exiled only so his family wouldn't look bad. He knew they were innocent, so I don't feel as bad for him.

Anora, after she lost her husband and saw her father killed right in front of her, with his blood splattered all over her. Unless she gets stuck in the tower, she does get to remain queen, so she doesn't have it as bad as some others.

Also, while Irving may have the circle destroyed or taken from him, you can also choose to help rebuild it and gain its independence from the chantry if you are a mage.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 21 juin 2010 - 04:01 .