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sw33ts

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Twitter update:

Same Sex Romances confirmed for ME3 by Casey Hudson, executive Producer of Mass Effect
http://twitter.com/#...833443067969536

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So, you clicked on this topic and you maybe be thinking, "what is Fight for the Love?"  Well, it's a fan group that wants a few more choices in the romance region of the game.  What does this mean?  It just means we'd like for some same-sex romances to be open, by way for a ME2 DLC or ME3.

And so now maybe you're thinking, “Shepard isn’t a fruit” or maybe “why do you guys keep making a new topic.  Stop spamming and drop it.”  If these are one of the two thoughts that run through your brain before you clicked and opened this topic, continue reading...

PLEASE DON'T GET OFF TOPIC. D=

FAQ:

  • What the HMMM is this?
    Fight for the Love is a fan group of which would like same-sex romances implemented in the game by way of DLC for ME2 or ME3.  We're kindly known as THOSE PEOPLE.  We come in peace honestly and if you can carry on a nice not heated debate we all most certainly up for it.

    To learn more or join click on my user bar.
  • Why are you guys on the 5th topic or why is this the Nth topic of this kind on the first page? This is spam.
    The previous threads were closed due to trolling, fighting, length and a brief memorandum issued by Mr. Stanley Woo.

    Mr. Woo posted:
    The last five pages (at least) are full of bickering, personal attacks, and politics. This topic gets a brief moratorium until people can learn to a) debate like civil, mature individuals, and B) not feed the trolls.

    As always, I'm available for questions and concerns, but come on, people. You seemed to have a great community and discussion going on in here, supporting each other, bringing up some good points. And you let one person with an opposing view destroy the thread? Take a breather, then let me know when y'all think you can start a new thread without the hate against haters. Thank you.
    From: http://social.biowar...ndex/1100184/71

    Note: He told us to, "Take a breather, then let me know when y'all think you can start a new thread without the hate against haters. Thank you." Not cease and desist with any threads of this kind.  We received his "blessing" per se to start this thread so please no "This is spam," or "You're beating a dead horse," comments.

    The purpose of this thread is to get other people's opinions. We want to know why people *don't* want the option so that we can try to find a solution that is agreeable to their desires as well as our own. We all want the game to be the best, so why not discuss ways to make the game more enjoyable for everyone?  Please keep political and social norms out of your post.

    Keep in mind we're in no way affiliated to the other same-sex topics.  We may want the same things, but we're going about it a different way.
  • Shepard isn’t a fruit.  Why are you trying to force this on me?
    No, Shepard is NOT a fruit, but that doesn’t mean he/she can’t like someone of the same-sex.  All most of us want is a decent meaningful relationship that isn’t tacked on.  Some of our ideas include colored font so that you can’t accidentally have your Shepard flirt someone you don’t want to and choosing a crush or sexual orientation on the import screen.  We’re also open to any other suggestions.
  • Why do you guys want this so bad?
    As tyddrwsau stated so eloquently:
    Games are great, in contradistinction to other media, because of their interactive value. It is a rather different story - in that place where imagination fills in the silent voids - if Commander Shepard is relaxing with Kaidan after both heroes have learned to relax just a little with one another, or if the Commander has passed through Jack's brusque shell and confided in the real person underneath, or if the Commander fear's Thane's illness and ignominious death to disease more than the Reapers. In Mass Effect we play the Hero. Through relationships with the squad, and especially the romances, we gain access to those precious few moments where we can imagine Shepard the person, not Shepard "the-one-who-wields-the-gun."

    For a gay player, used to being treated as a) nonexistent B) comic relief c) standard trope tragic figure  in various media, the option to play a really cool gay hero can be a really meaningful thing. For an open-minded player of other persuasions, it's another lens through which to imagine a parallel tale: "so THIS is what makes Shepard who he is, and THIS is what's important to him!"

    It's about character development.  Who *is* Commander Shepard, and why do we care? The romance helps us to imagine. A same-sex romance broadens the possibilities, and all to the good.
  • Why are people so persistent that BioWare include gay and lesbian relationships in Mass Effect?
    Two of the past 3 BioWare IPs have featured gay relationships. (Dragon Age:Origins and Jade Empire) All 3 have featured lesbian relationships.

    BioWare has a pretty consistent history on including these types of relationships and that is why fans are asking for it to be included in Mass Effect as well. Most people just figured that Mass Effect would be no different so there was no discussion of the issue until now. Nobody is demanding that BioWare include gay and lesbian relationships in their games. People are just asking for consistency, which thus far they have not provided.

    Between half a dozen new romance options on top of the three originals from the first game, it's clear that the developers spent quite a bit of time building the romantic subplots and character developments seamlessly into the grand ongoing saga of the series. To have such a varied and diverse ensemble of interesting romance options and yet not a single gay male in sight is incredibly conspicuous, and deserves reexamination.
  • Do you plan on turning everyone gay?
    No, most of us would like the former bisexual squadmates to be reimplemented, this includes, Tali, Thane, Jack and Kaidan.  (someone correct me on that if I'm wrong)  We also wouldn't mind a BRAND NEW character.  Please share your thoughts in the poll or topic if you have any ideas for people.
  • I'll be uncomfortable if even gay behavior is even hinted at.
This is why this topic is here.  We'd like to here from both sides of fence.  How would you like to compromise this?  Some of our ideas include:
  • Have you choose your crush on the import screen so if you choose no one as your crush then no one of the same sex will hit on you.
  • Colored font that warns you if you click it you're be stepping into a relationship dialogue.  We're not hoping for a Zevran type character we just want a normal character of the same sex who's open to the idea of a same-sex relationship. 
  • Have it implemented by way of DLC so if you don't DLC then there's no way you even know Thane, Tali or whomever is open to same-sex relationships.
View post below for more details.

[color=red">TL] reported[/color].  If you'd like for us to elaborate on certain things or would like to carry on an educated discussion this is fine, but please no "Hell no" and that's it. 

We’d like to keep a clean topic that stays away from politics and just focuses on how we’d like this implemented.  If you have any questions feel free to ask and vote in our polls. 
http://social.biowar...831/polls/2140/
http://social.biowar...110/polls/1358/
http://social.biowar...569/polls/6900/
http://social.biowar...11/polls/11746/
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[b]REVISIONS:

  • Suggestions 6 and 7 added. 7/7/10
  • Poll added. 10/12/10

Modifié par sw33ts, 15 mai 2011 - 07:37 .


#2
Stanley Woo

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Let's remember to keep it civil and mature, please. We can disagree with each other without resorting to name-calling or insults. Thank you.

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Brian Mills

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catabuca wrote...

Cootie wrote...

The point I'm trying to make is that if our experience is so much richer because we can play as the gender we prefer, I can't possibly imagine what it must be like to finally be able to relate to a homosexual or bisexual player character.

I'd give anything... almost anything... or, like... a lot, to be the man (or woman, I'm not picky)  who approved of, or came up with the idea of letting everyone be romancable by either gender in DA2. To know that you may have enriched so many experiences and pushed the envelope when it comes to what you can and cannot do in the gaming medium, yeah, it must be nice.
Warm and fuzzy.


Yeah. To all of this. Especially the bolded part. <3

(I do wonder if, at this point, any of the ME team even bother reading any of these threads. I'm sure some of them care -- it's just difficult to remember that sometimes, heck, all of the time.)


I read it :)  Not every day, but I do read it.

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Stanley Woo

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A bunch of spam, highly inappropriate content, and some quote pyramiding removed.

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Stanley Woo

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Some more spam, meme images, and inappropriate material removed. Let's please keep in mind that this is still technically a non-spoilers forum when discussing game events and decisions. Thank you.

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Stanley Woo

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Let's try to keep it on topic, please. And folks, if you see spam or a troll in a thread, just report it to a Moderator. There's no need to encourage bad behaviour with a response. Thank you.