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[catabuca]

Cootie wrote...

There are now 1077 members, by the by.
I figured someone would've brought out the cake by now, but apparently the last 31 people weren't important enough.
*glares at Catabuca*

Oh wow, what an influx. There were 1050 exactly when I looked last, and that must have only been an hour ago!

*wheels out massive cake*

[DinoCrisisFan]

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

More importantly, I think Male Shepard needs a turn. There should be a gay romance for MShep in ME3, without having to mod.

I second and third this!

I'll fourth and fifth it.

I sixth this.

I seventh thsi.

[Akrim_Drak]

catabuca wrote...

Oh wow, what an influx. There were 1050 exactly when I looked last, and that must have only been an hour ago!

*wheels out massive cake*

Well I'm mostly a lurker nowadays but with DA2 coming out soon I decided to come out of my cave.

I think if all the LIs in DA2 do indeed turn out to work for both sexes that's gonna put a lot of pressure on Bioware for ME3, ESPECIALLY if it turns out Anders is bisexual either way. I have faith in the writers at Bioware (on both teams) and if they can make Anders believable that's gonna remove the largest piece of "ammo" the anti-Kaidan folks have.

All in all I think it's a great thing, of course my M!Shep uses the "Mission first, no time for love" excuse. I love how in the PS3 version they even had that as one of the options during the comic. "Liara, Ashley, mission comes first."

Modifié par Akrim_Drak, 28 février 2011 - 08:10 .

[catabuca]

Akrim_Drak wrote...

Well I'm mostly a lurker nowadays but with DA2 coming out soon I decided to come out of my cave.

I think if all the LIs in DA2 do indeed turn out to work for both sexes that's gonna put a lot of pressure on Bioware for ME3, ESPECIALLY if it turns out Anders is bisexual either way. I have faith in the writers at Bioware (on both teams) and if they can make Anders believable that's gonna remove the largest piece of "ammo" the anti-Kaidan folks have.

All in all I think it's a great thing, of course my M!Shep uses the "Mission first, no time for love" excuse. I love how in the PS3 version they even had that as one of the options during the comic. "Liara, Ashley, mission comes first."

You make a great point about the Anders/Kaidan situation.

Returning character or new character, there really is no excuse for mShep not being able to identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that, while fShep can. No excuse at all. (And certainly not any of the ones we've been peddled in interviews.)

[catabuca]

I'm telling you ... if the DA2 m/m thread is anything to go by ... if we get word (somehow) that they are having m/m romances in ME3, they better not leave us hanging this long as to who they are XD

My nerves, oh my poor nerves.

[Cootie]

EVERYONE IS. O__O
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

Or just look at your signature. It's all there.

[catabuca]

I KNOW!

I'm staying strong. It's hard, at times (fnar), but I'm holding on to hope.

They're all bi XD

[Cootie]

catabuca wrote...

I KNOW!

I'm staying strong. It's hard, at times (fnar), but I'm holding on to hope.

They're all bi XD

I get the feeling that there will be some serious modding going on for every Bioware title henceforth. Forever.

[ElitePinecone]

catabuca wrote...

I'm telling you ... if the DA2 m/m thread is anything to go by ... if we get word (somehow) that they are having m/m romances in ME3, they better not leave us hanging this long as to who they are XD

My nerves, oh my poor nerves.

We'll probably have a few pages of SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEs first, as the realisation sets in

[catabuca]

Oh god, it would be SO NICE to get a chance to squee on this thread. Everyone else gets their squee ... why not mShep?

[catabuca]

1094 members. This pleases me. ^___^

[Tirigon]

catabuca wrote...

Oh god, it would be SO NICE to get a chance to squee on this thread. Everyone else gets their squee ... why not mShep?

Cos MShep is no ****...........


While he should of course be gay he fits much better as a kind of tough guy, not some effeminate wannabe girl (no offense to those though:P)

[catabuca]

nvm.

Modifié par catabuca, 02 mars 2011 - 08:27 .

[Maelora]

Tirigon wrote...
While he should of course be gay he fits much better as a kind of tough guy, not some effeminate wannabe girl no offense to those though:P)

Hendel Mitra.

Tough-as-nails badass Vanguard. 

Gay as a rainbow-coloured unicorn.

Why isn't he a companion in ME3?  

[lawp79]

I have just been trawling through google re mass effect gay romance, I am encouraged at how much support there is out there for this. I also found a rather interesting article about why it wasnt included in the first place. I am sure it has been posted here before so I wont bore you with the details.

[ElitePinecone]

Maelora wrote...

Tirigon wrote...
While he should of course be gay he fits much better as a kind of tough guy, not some effeminate wannabe girl no offense to those though:P)

Hendel Mitra.

Tough-as-nails badass Vanguard. 

Gay as a rainbow-coloured unicorn.

Why isn't he a companion in ME3?  

I can think of a few reasons, not that I'd necessarily be against it:

- Due to the plot of the novel Ascension, which I won't spoil, he's 'otherwise occupied' (story-wise) for a fair while. This isn't to say he couldn't be recalled from where he is, but realistically his mission (and the person he's protecting) is important. 

- The vast, vast majority of Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 players will have never heard of the books, let alone remember Hendel Mitra. I've seen similar threads argue for the inclusion of Kahlee Sanders, for example, as a sqjuadmate, and I'm skeptical for the same reasons as I'd be for Hendel. Unless he was introduced properly, players who hadn't read the books would be mightily confused. 

- Hendel is (as far as we've been told/shown) not interested in females at all. Not that I wouldn't love to see a solely-gay romance interest in ME3, but for reasons of resources I'd paint it as highly unlikely. It's easier, from a development perspective, to integrate the m/m romance with a character who can also be romanced by female player-characters. As David Gaider has observed, it doesn't make much sense to create content solely for what is (especially in a game like ME3, I'd wager) a minority of your audience. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 'gay as a rainbow unicorn' m/m option, but there are (unfortunately) rather solid boundaries to resources and what the Bioware team can justify investing. Their justification may be valid, or it might not be - but that's the best we can argue for. 

Again: I rather like Mitra as a character, and I think he'd be an amazing squadmate if written correctly - but I can't really see him being a realistic option for ME3. Hopefully he'll pop up in some future novel. 

[Maelora]

Ah, you're right in terms of plot, of course. (Although Mac Walters has butchered the ME plot for bad reasons, so I wouldn't mind if they handwaved it for good ones! I actually would like to see the Gillian plot worked into the mainstream ME plotline.)

I was just trying to counter the idea that GayShep would have to be an 'effeminate wannabe girl' as an above poster joked. I was thinking of someone like The Midnighter from DC comics.

[ElitePinecone]

Maelora wrote...
I was just trying to counter the idea that GayShep would have to be an 'effeminate wannabe girl' as an above poster joked. I was thinking of someone like The Midnighter from DC comics.

Definitely agree with you here.  

[madman0311]

catabuca wrote...

Reported for violent language.

*gasp*

Oh no! I said ASS! How on earth is everyone going to recover from THIS?! How EVIL of me!

[Cootie]

madman0311 wrote...

catabuca wrote...

Reported for violent language.

*gasp*

Oh no! I said ASS! How on earth is everyone going to recover from THIS?! How EVIL of me!

I suggest spending some time considering your choice of words before posting on a forum, unless you want to sound like you completely missed the point.
Remember, there is no time limit. There's no excuse for not thinking.

Speaking of people not considering things and poor choice of words, back on topic:
I think I've asked this before, but it's worth discussing again.

What were you initial feelings or thoughts when you realised there were no homosexual romance-squaddies in ME-2? Did your heart sink, did you get angry?
Did you not care until much later? Things like that.
I wanna' know about your impressions and experiences!

[Labrev]

This could work for Lesbians because let's face it, girls can basically pick and choose. I'd have doubts about Ashley, but the other three girls would work IMO. For men, the other guy has to be gay too. I could see maybe Kaiden swing the other way but the other male LI's (Jacob, Garrus, Thane) I don't see it. They then need to make potential gay characters, which would be a nuissance and not really worth it if you ask me.

[catabuca]

Well folks, the news is as good as confirmed: all the LIs in DA2 are available to both genders.

It'll be interesting to see what happens as the game comes out, and whether the response to it will have any bearing on ME3.

It would seem awfully odd now to have the DA team make such a progressive and inclusive move as this and still have the ME team deny the possibility of gay in space (particularly in the unfortunate and offensive way it has been handled to date).

But I believe we in the FftL thread and group have something we can rally around now.

Hawke is arguably 'pre-defined' just as Shepard is. Actually, I'd argue Hawke is more pre-defined, since you don't get to choose his/her background - s/he always has the same family and history. And yet Hawke's sexuality can be as fluid and open to player customisation as everything else about him/her.

ME team: you just lost another leg to stand on.

[mesmerizedish]

catabuca wrote...

Well folks, the news is as good as confirmed: all the LIs in DA2 are available to both genders.

It'll be interesting to see what happens as the game comes out, and whether the response to it will have any bearing on ME3.

It would seem awfully odd now to have the DA team make such a progressive and inclusive move as this and still have the ME team deny the possibility of gay in space (particularly in the unfortunate and offensive way it has been handled to date).

But I believe we in the FftL thread and group have something we can rally around now.

Hawke is arguably 'pre-defined' just as Shepard is. Actually, I'd argue Hawke is more pre-defined, since you don't get to choose his/her background - s/he always has the same family and history. And yet Hawke's sexuality can be as fluid and open to player customisation as everything else about him/her.

ME team: you just lost another leg to stand on.

I'm showing support for my Queen!!!

*bows dutifully*

[catabuca]

Thank you ishmael

Let's hope this thread picks up a head of steam again now ...

[ElitePinecone]

catabuca wrote...

Well folks, the news is as good as confirmed: all the LIs in DA2 are available to both genders.

It'll be interesting to see what happens as the game comes out, and whether the response to it will have any bearing on ME3.

...

Hawke is arguably 'pre-defined' just as Shepard is. Actually, I'd argue Hawke is more pre-defined, since you don't get to choose his/her background - s/he always has the same family and history. And yet Hawke's sexuality can be as fluid and open to player customisation as everything else about him/her.

Edit: Just saw the post in your sig. Awesome. 

Also, this is great news, assuming they're written well. Having moar character interaction is unevquivocally a good thing, and given what we know about the romancable characters I can definitely see this happening in a realistic manner. Well, as realistic a manner as a high-fantasy/magic-using world can manage. 

It will be very interesting to see how this is perceived by fans, professional critics and the wider public. Here's hoping we'll see something similar for future Mass Effect games and Bioware generally. 

Update again: Having read the apparent Anders/Fenris stuff from the PR copy playthrough, it sounds like it's been handled rather well, in that the player has to respond positively to both characters for the romance to be activated. 

Again, here's hoping a similar nifty dialogue system is ported over to ME3 and we get, at last, some companionship for lonely Shep (of both genders, if femShep didn't romance Liara). 

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 04 mars 2011 - 12:38 .