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#5426
Dante Angelo

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

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To be fair, Hawke gets a brothel and can fool around with Zevran. 


Okay fine then. 5 to 5. I don't include the brothel. It doesn't exist. :whistle: 

Seriously 2 Soveregins? No way am I paying that much to get a rash and have to get treated by Anders. Just no way. :lol: 

Okay I'll be serious. I didn't include the brothel because it has no equal in ME. Zevran however does count (like the Consort). So it's 5 to 5. They're equally skanky. The brothel is just for those poor Hawke's waiting for Fenris/Isabela to stop tap dancing for 3 years and put out. :whistle: 

AND (I know it's in the brothel) there was that Elf prostitute...count him since he was actually part of a quest. ;)

That was just Zevran in disguise

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MACharlie1 wrote...
AND (I know it's in the brothel) there was that Elf prostitute...count him since he was actually part of a quest. ;)


Oh fine then. :(

I'm including that kiss from Parasini and Shiala then. Yes it's petty but Shepard's a ho in spirit if nothing else! 

So it's 8 to eight (including Aveline and Seb). So they're still equally skanky. Hawke just is better at getting people into bed. :P 

And hell the Warden out skanked both of them. 

Foursome. 

Game. Set. Match. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 16 avril 2011 - 06:20 .


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taliefer wrote...

hoenstly i dont think the argument "it was recorded but cut from the game" holds any water myself. its not like while im playing the game im aware of cut content


I think it's rather irrelevant too and is not necessary to add any more impetus to the argument that Shepard can be gay, straight, bi, whatever. 

We play our character however we want to. If I wished it, my FemShep could be a master juggler. There's nothing in the game that says she isn't one, nor is there anything in the game that says she is. But because I think that'll add a nice quirk to her character, there's nothing to say she can't be. Her sexuality is no different. It doesn't change who she is as a person, it wouldn't make her act any differently. It is merely another facet of what makes her her.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

And like I said your way of playing is valid. It's not however a good or valid reason for not including same sex romances. If we were to follow you presumption there should be no straight romances because my Shepard is a lesbian and she wouldn't have those thoughts about Jacob. And yes she is a lesbian because as Word of God states

"while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life—all asari are sexually female" Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183

So Shepard can be homosexual, the end.


In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?

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Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

To be fair, there were never any options to make Shepard act gay on any of the games because homosexualism had been scrapped before release.

You can't say that something is "canon" just because of executive meddling.


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Who exactly are you responding to? There's this feature called "quoting" that makes this clear to everyone, just FYI.

Also FYI: There's no such word as "homosexualism". The word you're looking for is "homosexuality".

And please, by all means, define the phrase "act gay" for us. Inquiring minds want to know.


I fixed it.

I'm not used to quoting because not long ago I was posting on GameFAQs, and you can't quote there.

As for "act gay", I mean showing attraction for the same sex and all that jazz.

Anyway, I won't even bother with you because you seem like one of those neurotic people, picking every little thing apart and aching to start a fight.


Spoiling for a fight? Moi? You know what thread you're in, right? Fight for the Love?

If you aren't prepared to present your side of an argument, to give the community some logical premise to discuss, why ARE you here?

So, because Shepard never had the opportunity to show attraction for other dudes, he couldn't possibly have those feelings? If it pleases the court, I would like to substitute "other dudes" with "quarians" in that sentence and recast it in light of the Tali romance in Mass Effect 2. Shepard never said anything remotely flirtatious to Tali, AN ALIEN, in the first game. They just prattled on incessantly about geth and other boring stuff, like the fact that she can't eat human food because of her DNA chirality, the fact that her immune system is so weak that she could die of infections extremely easily, etc. Then, suddenly, in the second game, there was this entirely new dynamic between Tali and Shepard. Shepard wanted to crack open that helmet and lay one on that mug of hers. Even though SHE'S AN ALIEN. And SHE CAN'T EVEN EAT HUMAN FOOD. And even though SHE COULD DIE. I didn't hear a lot of kids complaining about this 'sudden' shift in personality on Shepard's (and Tali's) part. But go ahead, give us a litany of reasons why 'maybe' that change makes sense. Give us a list of examples in the first game of exchanges between Tali and Shepard that you think might have been flirtatious. Than I will point out the rather obvious point that you could say all those same things about KAIDAN. Oh, and he's a human that could share a meal with Shepard, and wouldn't have to shoot himself up with antibiotics just for a few minutes of heavy petting.



You didn't even understand (or tried to, apparently) what I said.

I said that taliefer's arguments held no water because there had been the INTENTION to add gay content, but it was CUT due to executive meddling. So being gay COULD have been an option were it not for censorship, and so he can't just say that "canon Shepard" is straight; specially because there is no such thing as "canon" to Mass Effect.

Thanks for proving me right. You're just some neurotic hardocore pro-gay that is always in the defensive. People like you do nothing but hurt your own cause.

Modifié par lolwut666, 16 avril 2011 - 06:24 .


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george martin wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

And like I said your way of playing is valid. It's not however a good or valid reason for not including same sex romances. If we were to follow you presumption there should be no straight romances because my Shepard is a lesbian and she wouldn't have those thoughts about Jacob. And yes she is a lesbian because as Word of God states

"while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life—all asari are sexually female" Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183

So Shepard can be homosexual, the end.


In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?


Actually it would because you're the one calling the shots on Shepherd's love life.

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Siansonea II, with that post of his he was actually refuting taliefer's claim that MShep can be straight and only straight.

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george martin wrote...
In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?


The only way for Shepard to go from gay to straight would be if everyone's shepard displayed attraction to the same sex regardless of player choices.

Since that doesn't happen to Shepard PERIOD (gay straight or otherwise). It is pointless to argue that he's "changing." 

If it don't contradict previous actions there is no change. 

My Shepard never once said he was heterosexual nor did he express interest in women. 

Him not hitting on any of the male character's could've been easily "he's not interested. Kaidan's boring, Jacob's a jerk, Thane is dying and Garrus is his bro." 

We can argue that same point regarding Shepard romancing Tali. It isn't any more contradictory with that (other than her ninja crush but let's not get into that) than it would be with a same sex romance. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 16 avril 2011 - 06:27 .


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george martin wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

And like I said your way of playing is valid. It's not however a good or valid reason for not including same sex romances. If we were to follow you presumption there should be no straight romances because my Shepard is a lesbian and she wouldn't have those thoughts about Jacob. And yes she is a lesbian because as Word of God states

"while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life—all asari are sexually female" Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183

So Shepard can be homosexual, the end.


In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?


I replied to you specifically on this subject on page 213, and have quoted that reply on the page before this one. I deal with all of your comments that have come up in the last few pages of this thread, and you've yet to respond to any of my reply, choosing to merely restate (and not even to me) what you said originally.

Would you care to engage with what I have said?

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taliefer wrote...

from the first page of the thread, since i dont know how to use the quote feature:

The purpose of this thread is to get other people's opinions. We want to know why people *don't* want the option so that we can try to find a solution that is agreeable to their desires as well as our own. We all want the game to be the best, so why not discuss ways to make the game more enjoyable for everyone? Please keep political and social norms out of your post.

thats why im here. not to impose my will on other peoples play style. to offer my opinion on why it doesnt make sense, in the case of mass effect 3, to have a gay love interest option. that is all. it works in other games, i dont think it would be fitting in me3.


Well, I do know how to use the quote feature. You're offering your opinion. Okay. That's fine. Duly noted.

So, to restate, in your opinion, gay love interest options should not be included in ME3 because you don't want them. Because they don't make sense in your opinion. And this point of view holds even in spite of everything that's been said in direct response to everything you've said about player choice and how they affect an individual's playthrough. Well, I can't argue with that logic, because so far I haven't found any. All I've found is an opinion that you don't like it, and you feel that it doesn't make sense, even though from a purely logical standpoint those conclusions don't really seem to hold water.

Or did I misinterpret what you're saying?

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taliefer wrote...
thats why im here. not to impose my will on other peoples play style.


Yeah, but you kind of are....

You want no gay Shepard at all and the rest of the people who would like this get left out in the cold, all because it doesn't make sense to you (makes you feel uncomfortable).  Most who are asking for s/s content aren't asking for a complete overhaul of gay.  I think most want Shepard to initiate the romance and for it to be clear to pursue it or not to pursue it.  So someone like you doesn't accidently get ninja'manced by another male. 

Most of the people who support gay romances are reasonable while people like you have a hard time of doing so.

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george martin wrote...

In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?


Perhaps he just hasn't met a guy he finds attractive? I don't know about you but there's a lot of women I find unattractive. I don't go chatting up women just because they are women. >.>

Again, this all comes down to how you choose to play your character. If you want your Shepard to be straight, then so be it. He is. But that doesn't mean the choice should be excluded for all players. 

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lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

To be fair, there were never any options to make Shepard act gay on any of the games because homosexualism had been scrapped before release.

You can't say that something is "canon" just because of executive meddling.


lolwut?Posted Image

Who exactly are you responding to? There's this feature called "quoting" that makes this clear to everyone, just FYI.

Also FYI: There's no such word as "homosexualism". The word you're looking for is "homosexuality".

And please, by all means, define the phrase "act gay" for us. Inquiring minds want to know.


I fixed it.

I'm not used to quoting because not long ago I was posting on GameFAQs, and you can't quote there.

As for "act gay", I mean showing attraction for the same sex and all that jazz.

Anyway, I won't even bother with you because you seem like one of those neurotic people, picking every little thing apart and aching to start a fight.


Spoiling for a fight? Moi? You know what thread you're in, right? Fight for the Love?

If you aren't prepared to present your side of an argument, to give the community some logical premise to discuss, why ARE you here?

So, because Shepard never had the opportunity to show attraction for other dudes, he couldn't possibly have those feelings? If it pleases the court, I would like to substitute "other dudes" with "quarians" in that sentence and recast it in light of the Tali romance in Mass Effect 2. Shepard never said anything remotely flirtatious to Tali, AN ALIEN, in the first game. They just prattled on incessantly about geth and other boring stuff, like the fact that she can't eat human food because of her DNA chirality, the fact that her immune system is so weak that she could die of infections extremely easily, etc. Then, suddenly, in the second game, there was this entirely new dynamic between Tali and Shepard. Shepard wanted to crack open that helmet and lay one on that mug of hers. Even though SHE'S AN ALIEN. And SHE CAN'T EVEN EAT HUMAN FOOD. And even though SHE COULD DIE. I didn't hear a lot of kids complaining about this 'sudden' shift in personality on Shepard's (and Tali's) part. But go ahead, give us a litany of reasons why 'maybe' that change makes sense. Give us a list of examples in the first game of exchanges between Tali and Shepard that you think might have been flirtatious. Than I will point out the rather obvious point that you could say all those same things about KAIDAN. Oh, and he's a human that could share a meal with Shepard, and wouldn't have to shoot himself up with antibiotics just for a few minutes of heavy petting.



You didn't even understand (or tried to, apparently) what I said.

I said that taliefer's arguments held no water because there had been the INTENTION to add gay content, but it was CUT due to executive meddling. So being gay COULD have been an option were it not for censorship, and so he can't just say that "canon Shepard" is straight; specially because there is no such thing as "canon" to Mass Effect.

Thanks for proving me right. You're just some neurotic hardocore pro-gay that is always in the defensive. People like you do nothing but hurt your own cause.


Now now, no need for name-calling.

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lolwut666 wrote....

Thanks for proving me right. You're just some neurotic hardocore pro-gay that is always in the defensive. People like you do nothing but hurt your own cause.

What's pro-gay? Can I be pro-cougar? :o

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george martin wrote...

In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?


Again, there's a difference between Shepard in an abstract sense and each player's individual Shepards.   BioWare created this "Shepard" character and the only things they define that apply generally are Shepard's N7 status, the fact that this person is an Alliance soldier, etc.  Further details regarding an individual Shepard are left up to the player (gender, personal background, morality, and even sexuality).

My FemShep was gay in both ME1 and ME2 and I will decide to keep her on the gay lady-lovin path all throught ME3 as well.  How can anyone change that?  Unless ME3 forces her to romance a dude which I know they won't do.

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Well, I have a question.

Why isn't this thread in the Mass Effect 1 & 2 Characters and Fan Creations Forum?

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technoquarian wrote...

Siansonea II, with that post of his he was actually refuting taliefer's claim that MShep can be straight and only straight.


I guess that wasn't clear. In a topic like this it's very important to quote the person you're replying to, otherwise it's easy for things to get confused and taken out of context. I'm stil unclear on that member's actual stance on this issue, for instance.

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lolwut666

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Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

To be fair, there were never any options to make Shepard act gay on any of the games because homosexualism had been scrapped before release.

You can't say that something is "canon" just because of executive meddling.


lolwut?Posted Image

Who exactly are you responding to? There's this feature called "quoting" that makes this clear to everyone, just FYI.

Also FYI: There's no such word as "homosexualism". The word you're looking for is "homosexuality".

And please, by all means, define the phrase "act gay" for us. Inquiring minds want to know.


I fixed it.

I'm not used to quoting because not long ago I was posting on GameFAQs, and you can't quote there.

As for "act gay", I mean showing attraction for the same sex and all that jazz.

Anyway, I won't even bother with you because you seem like one of those neurotic people, picking every little thing apart and aching to start a fight.


Spoiling for a fight? Moi? You know what thread you're in, right? Fight for the Love?

If you aren't prepared to present your side of an argument, to give the community some logical premise to discuss, why ARE you here?

So, because Shepard never had the opportunity to show attraction for other dudes, he couldn't possibly have those feelings? If it pleases the court, I would like to substitute "other dudes" with "quarians" in that sentence and recast it in light of the Tali romance in Mass Effect 2. Shepard never said anything remotely flirtatious to Tali, AN ALIEN, in the first game. They just prattled on incessantly about geth and other boring stuff, like the fact that she can't eat human food because of her DNA chirality, the fact that her immune system is so weak that she could die of infections extremely easily, etc. Then, suddenly, in the second game, there was this entirely new dynamic between Tali and Shepard. Shepard wanted to crack open that helmet and lay one on that mug of hers. Even though SHE'S AN ALIEN. And SHE CAN'T EVEN EAT HUMAN FOOD. And even though SHE COULD DIE. I didn't hear a lot of kids complaining about this 'sudden' shift in personality on Shepard's (and Tali's) part. But go ahead, give us a litany of reasons why 'maybe' that change makes sense. Give us a list of examples in the first game of exchanges between Tali and Shepard that you think might have been flirtatious. Than I will point out the rather obvious point that you could say all those same things about KAIDAN. Oh, and he's a human that could share a meal with Shepard, and wouldn't have to shoot himself up with antibiotics just for a few minutes of heavy petting.



You didn't even understand (or tried to, apparently) what I said.

I said that taliefer's arguments held no water because there had been the INTENTION to add gay content, but it was CUT due to executive meddling. So being gay COULD have been an option were it not for censorship, and so he can't just say that "canon Shepard" is straight; specially because there is no such thing as "canon" to Mass Effect.

Thanks for proving me right. You're just some neurotic hardocore pro-gay that is always in the defensive. People like you do nothing but hurt your own cause.


Now now, no need for name-calling.


No need for being a douche.

I can see that the stick is stuck so far up your ass that, when you screw up, all you can do is respond with an even more condescending demeanor.

#5444
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Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

To be fair, there were never any options to make Shepard act gay on any of the games because homosexualism had been scrapped before release.

You can't say that something is "canon" just because of executive meddling.


lolwut?:lol:

Who exactly are you responding to? There's this feature called "quoting" that makes this clear to everyone, just FYI.

Also FYI: There's no such word as "homosexualism". The word you're looking for is "homosexuality".

And please, by all means, define the phrase "act gay" for us. Inquiring minds want to know.


I fixed it.

I'm not used to quoting because not long ago I was posting on GameFAQs, and you can't quote there.

As for "act gay", I mean showing attraction for the same sex and all that jazz.

Anyway, I won't even bother with you because you seem like one of those neurotic people, picking every little thing apart and aching to start a fight.


Spoiling for a fight? Moi? You know what thread you're in, right? Fight for the Love?

If you aren't prepared to present your side of an argument, to give the community some logical premise to discuss, why ARE you here?

So, because Shepard never had the opportunity to show attraction for other dudes, he couldn't possibly have those feelings? If it pleases the court, I would like to substitute "other dudes" with "quarians" in that sentence and recast it in light of the Tali romance in Mass Effect 2. Shepard never said anything remotely flirtatious to Tali, AN ALIEN, in the first game. They just prattled on incessantly about geth and other boring stuff, like the fact that she can't eat human food because of her DNA chirality, the fact that her immune system is so weak that she could die of infections extremely easily, etc. Then, suddenly, in the second game, there was this entirely new dynamic between Tali and Shepard. Shepard wanted to crack open that helmet and lay one on that mug of hers. Even though SHE'S AN ALIEN. And SHE CAN'T EVEN EAT HUMAN FOOD. And even though SHE COULD DIE. I didn't hear a lot of kids complaining about this 'sudden' shift in personality on Shepard's (and Tali's) part. But go ahead, give us a litany of reasons why 'maybe' that change makes sense. Give us a list of examples in the first game of exchanges between Tali and Shepard that you think might have been flirtatious. Than I will point out the rather obvious point that you could say all those same things about KAIDAN. Oh, and he's a human that could share a meal with Shepard, and wouldn't have to shoot himself up with antibiotics just for a few minutes of heavy petting.


You can try to justify all you want that Shepard could be gay, he's not and that's more than clear, he only goes for females you guys shouldn't be in the least bit offended by that. His sexuality in the first 2 games are quite grounded. Sometimes people are straight or gay in stories, trying to change that in the 3rd story would be ludicrous.

Would a gay guy becoming straight in the 3rd story make any sense when everything you've learned before hand proves the exact opposite. Kaidan likes women, he's never commented about liking men in any such manner. Garrus talked about a Turian female soldier that he liked qutie a bit. You never see them talking about men in any of these conversations. There's a reason they're not gay, you guys need to get over this. To change it up in the 3rd game would completely change their characters which are already grounded.

DA started with same sex partners and had some pretty interesting banter and conversations about it. It was well grounded that it's a possiblity. I enjoyed the game and the funny conversations about it. Nothing of the like occurred in ME, the majority of people are straight there's nothing wrong with that. You need to accept their characters for who they are.

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george martin wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

And like I said your way of playing is valid. It's not however a good or valid reason for not including same sex romances. If we were to follow you presumption there should be no straight romances because my Shepard is a lesbian and she wouldn't have those thoughts about Jacob. And yes she is a lesbian because as Word of God states

"while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life—all asari are sexually female" Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183

So Shepard can be homosexual, the end.


In your mind, but the male shepard shows no interest in the same sex in the first 2 games. Pretty obvious he's not interested and that his sexual orientation has already been quite grounded. For gay romance options to pop up all of a sudden would be absurd. How would you feel if a gay shepard went straight in the 3rd story? Wouldn't make much sense at all would it?


Shepard is not canonically male.  Female Shepard can have sexual relations with another female.  Shepard is potentially homosexual.  These facts are not up for debate.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 16 avril 2011 - 06:34 .


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Praetor Shepard wrote...

Well, I have a question.

Why isn't this thread in the Mass Effect 1 & 2 Characters and Fan Creations Forum?


It's so that anyone can respond, not just registered game owners.

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george martin: I just refuted your "Shepard is straight." claim. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 16 avril 2011 - 06:36 .


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lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

*snip*
You didn't even understand (or tried to, apparently) what I said.

I said that taliefer's arguments held no water because there had been the INTENTION to add gay content, but it was CUT due to executive meddling. So being gay COULD have been an option were it not for censorship, and so he can't just say that "canon Shepard" is straight; specially because there is no such thing as "canon" to Mass Effect.

Thanks for proving me right. You're just some neurotic hardocore pro-gay that is always in the defensive. People like you do nothing but hurt your own cause.


Now now, no need for name-calling.


[redacted]


I’m sorry, but what of “no name-calling” did you not understand?

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george martin wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

To be fair, there were never any options to make Shepard act gay on any of the games because homosexualism had been scrapped before release.

You can't say that something is "canon" just because of executive meddling.


lolwut?:lol:

Who exactly are you responding to? There's this feature called "quoting" that makes this clear to everyone, just FYI.

Also FYI: There's no such word as "homosexualism". The word you're looking for is "homosexuality".

And please, by all means, define the phrase "act gay" for us. Inquiring minds want to know.


I fixed it.

I'm not used to quoting because not long ago I was posting on GameFAQs, and you can't quote there.

As for "act gay", I mean showing attraction for the same sex and all that jazz.

Anyway, I won't even bother with you because you seem like one of those neurotic people, picking every little thing apart and aching to start a fight.


Spoiling for a fight? Moi? You know what thread you're in, right? Fight for the Love?

If you aren't prepared to present your side of an argument, to give the community some logical premise to discuss, why ARE you here?

So, because Shepard never had the opportunity to show attraction for other dudes, he couldn't possibly have those feelings? If it pleases the court, I would like to substitute "other dudes" with "quarians" in that sentence and recast it in light of the Tali romance in Mass Effect 2. Shepard never said anything remotely flirtatious to Tali, AN ALIEN, in the first game. They just prattled on incessantly about geth and other boring stuff, like the fact that she can't eat human food because of her DNA chirality, the fact that her immune system is so weak that she could die of infections extremely easily, etc. Then, suddenly, in the second game, there was this entirely new dynamic between Tali and Shepard. Shepard wanted to crack open that helmet and lay one on that mug of hers. Even though SHE'S AN ALIEN. And SHE CAN'T EVEN EAT HUMAN FOOD. And even though SHE COULD DIE. I didn't hear a lot of kids complaining about this 'sudden' shift in personality on Shepard's (and Tali's) part. But go ahead, give us a litany of reasons why 'maybe' that change makes sense. Give us a list of examples in the first game of exchanges between Tali and Shepard that you think might have been flirtatious. Than I will point out the rather obvious point that you could say all those same things about KAIDAN. Oh, and he's a human that could share a meal with Shepard, and wouldn't have to shoot himself up with antibiotics just for a few minutes of heavy petting.


You can try to justify all you want that Shepard could be gay, he's not and that's more than clear, he only goes for females you guys shouldn't be in the least bit offended by that. His sexuality in the first 2 games are quite grounded. Sometimes people are straight or gay in stories, trying to change that in the 3rd story would be ludicrous.

Would a gay guy becoming straight in the 3rd story make any sense when everything you've learned before hand proves the exact opposite. Kaidan likes women, he's never commented about liking men in any such manner. Garrus talked about a Turian female soldier that he liked qutie a bit. You never see them talking about men in any of these conversations. There's a reason they're not gay, you guys need to get over this. To change it up in the 3rd game would completely change their characters which are already grounded.

DA started with same sex partners and had some pretty interesting banter and conversations about it. It was well grounded that it's a possiblity. I enjoyed the game and the funny conversations about it. Nothing of the like occurred in ME, the majority of people are straight there's nothing wrong with that. You need to accept their characters for who they are.

Do you understand the concept of bisexuality and that whole spectrum? 

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taliefer

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again, more presumptions that homosexuality makes me uncomfortable just because i happen to believe it doesnt make sense for shep to be gay in me3. it doesnt make me uncomfortable. it just doesnt make sense in the case of ME3. if the option had been IN GAME since me1, and not on the cutting room floor apparently, it'd be a different story and i would say bring on the homosexual options. but it hasnt been.

the great thing about opinions is they dont have to be logical to other people. theres nothing to be proven or disproven here.