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AshiraShepard wrote...
Wait, they made LotSB after the actual game was out and Miranda wasn't an option for FemShep...why would they...I mean just...
wat.
lazuli wrote...
makenzieshepard wrote...
I think the Virmire survivors are the best bets. But TBH the only ones I personally can't see it working for are Jacob, Thane and Garrus but I am very biased here/
Agreed. Of those three, Jacob strikes me as the least likely, but I'm not entirely sure why that is. Kaidan, at least, should be bi in ME3*. Making both of them bi bleeds them together even further, something I don't think the characters need since they're basically interchangable in ME2 as it is.
*If no new options are introduced.
Chris Priestly wrote...
So, move on now or this gets closed.
makenzieshepard wrote...
I know Jennifer Hale recorded lines for femshep/miranda in the post LotSB conversation
KawaiiKatie wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
So, move on now or this gets closed.
Is it just me, or is this the only comment we ever hear from Devs and Moderators on this forum?
I really wish that Bioware would give us a constructive, back-and-forth dialogue about same-sex content in Mass Effect, or the lack thereof. They've been very tight-lipped on the issue for a long time, with the occasional exception of rathering confusing interviews.
Why can female Shepard engage in same-sex relationships (both with a human female and several "female" aliens) but male Shepard cannot? In short, why is male Shepard "pre-determined" as heterosexual, but female Shepard is not? Why was same-sex content recorded, but ultimately removed from in-game? Should we gamers hold out any hope at all that same-sex content will be made available for both male and female Shepard?
This thread is called "Fight for the Love," where "we'd like for some same-sex romances to be open, by way for a ME2 DLC or ME3." It has been shut down and restarted multiple times. But not once has Bioware made a meaningful statement about the exclusion or implementation of same-sex content in Mass Effect. I, for one, would like to see some dialogue between Bioware and the fans. That's what the forums are for, right? Well, Bioware, it's your turn. We fans have been talking in circles about same-sex content for quite some time, and I'm tired of being told to stay on topic. This is the topic. So please, share your thoughts!
Modifié par NoxNoctum, 05 mai 2011 - 08:58 .
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
lawp79 wrote...
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
The option to punch a gay character in the face? No you're not a homophobe at all........
.Modifié par NoxNoctum, 05 mai 2011 - 09:14 .
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
Ok fair point, I guess I just need to meet more peopleAugoeides wrote...
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
I know plenty of gay/bi rugged badasses, mind you none of them have saved the galaxy or are in the process of doing so.
Also no sympathy for retching straight youths, seeing as I'm a youth and able to be polite and simply inform any girls that hits on me of the impossibility of us forming a relationship or even hooking up.
Honestly, I think Kaidan is the most likely option if it were to be implemented BUT seeingas he is a character that must be imported to be present (at least in ME2, we have't seen the scope of the choices available in the ME3 comic) then he is locked out for new players, so we'd need a second m/m potential character if ME3 non-import MSheps got stuck with Ashely.
I think Thane would make a 'sexy' m/m option, but I'd feel like I would be playing second fiddle to his previous interests if y'all know what i mean.
. It's true that some of the most famous male romantic leads in hollywood in the past turned out to be gay despite not being "fruity" at all.
NoxNoctum wrote...
lawp79 wrote...
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
The option to punch a gay character in the face? No you're not a homophobe at all........
Well, you don't think that's realistic? Sorry if it's not PC enough for you. I dunno maybe you play the nicey-nice version of Shep... I don't
I know IRL if I had a gay dude relentlessly hitting on me even after being told "No" I would not react in a kind manner... and the same is true for most heterosexual males.
And we're not talking about your average teen, young adult here, we're talking about this dude who's killed literally hundreds of aliens/humans etc. in pursuit of the reapers. Not very PC.
You have the option to punch (or just kill outright) quite a few characters in the game, why not a male romantic interest who gets beyond irritating?
NoxNoctum wrote...
Ok fair point, I guess I just need to meet more peopleAugoeides wrote...
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
I know plenty of gay/bi rugged badasses, mind you none of them have saved the galaxy or are in the process of doing so.
Also no sympathy for retching straight youths, seeing as I'm a youth and able to be polite and simply inform any girls that hits on me of the impossibility of us forming a relationship or even hooking up.
Honestly, I think Kaidan is the most likely option if it were to be implemented BUT seeingas he is a character that must be imported to be present (at least in ME2, we have't seen the scope of the choices available in the ME3 comic) then he is locked out for new players, so we'd need a second m/m potential character if ME3 non-import MSheps got stuck with Ashely.
I think Thane would make a 'sexy' m/m option, but I'd feel like I would be playing second fiddle to his previous interests if y'all know what i mean.
As for the retching lol... you're a chick. End of story. I don't know why but guys have always and likely will always be different about it.
Anyways I'll shut up now I don't want to offend anyone... Just don't get your hopes up, Bioware wants to cater to its largely young, male audience...
Augoeides wrote...
NoxNoctum wrote...
Ok fair point, I guess I just need to meet more peopleAugoeides wrote...
NoxNoctum wrote...
Hell no. Shepard's supposed to be a rugged badass saving the galaxy. Where in there is there even room for him to be gay?
I'm totally against this.
Bioware won't do it anyways (at least not Male-Male romances) because their main audience by FAR are young males, the vast majority of whom would probably retch at just a male character hitting on their male shep. Now if there's an option to punch said character in the face, then sure, put it in lol.
Doesn't have anything to do with homophobia, I'm not a homophobe, it's just not what I want to see in-game.
I know plenty of gay/bi rugged badasses, mind you none of them have saved the galaxy or are in the process of doing so.
Also no sympathy for retching straight youths, seeing as I'm a youth and able to be polite and simply inform any girls that hits on me of the impossibility of us forming a relationship or even hooking up.
Honestly, I think Kaidan is the most likely option if it were to be implemented BUT seeingas he is a character that must be imported to be present (at least in ME2, we have't seen the scope of the choices available in the ME3 comic) then he is locked out for new players, so we'd need a second m/m potential character if ME3 non-import MSheps got stuck with Ashely.
I think Thane would make a 'sexy' m/m option, but I'd feel like I would be playing second fiddle to his previous interests if y'all know what i mean.
As for the retching lol... you're a chick. End of story. I don't know why but guys have always and likely will always be different about it.
Anyways I'll shut up now I don't want to offend anyone... Just don't get your hopes up, Bioware wants to cater to its largely young, male audience...
I'm a guy
I don't think you've offended anyone, you're simply expressing your views on the topic which have been formed based on your experiences; that's perfectly valid for this topic.
My hopes certainly aren't up, but I keep a little faith and trust in Bioware anyway.
NoxNoctum wrote...
Haha my bad man, I just saw the girl thing and assumed you were a straight chick lol.
Modifié par centauri2002, 05 mai 2011 - 10:49 .
One of the things the team up at Edmonton has done is... essentially adjust some of the gameplay mechanics and some of the features, which you'll see at E3, that can... essentially address a far larger market opportunity.
Khemi wrote...
BTW, has anyone kept count of the "gay Shep - NO WAY"-people who come in, state their signature line and then, when confronted with polite reason, start to backpedal? I seem to recall several who eventually end up with something like "Oh. I see your point. Maybe it's a good idea."
Even if we don't ultimately get what we want, maybe 300+ pages of repeatedly hitting one's head on a wall has been worth it. I salute everyone who has made the effort of being the voice of reason to these people.
Modifié par Cootie, 05 mai 2011 - 04:18 .
Cootie wrote...
"BioWare is in the process of realigning its Mass Effect franchise to appeal to a larger audience, according to EA boss John Riccitiello.
Speaking during an investor Q&A today, Riccitiello explained that Mass Effect 3 will boast greater mass appeal than its two predecessors.""
- Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer...rket(2011-05-05))
Does this, as well as the delay to early 2012 sound promising to people? Or do you think it's more related to their investors and/or marketing department?
At first, I thought they meant something along the lines of "we'll try to make it as appealing as possible to as many fans as we can manage" but now I'm not so sure anymore.
What do you guys think?
*builds hype*
Guest_Nyoka_*
Cootie wrote...
"BioWare is in the process of realigning its Mass Effect franchise to appeal to a larger audience, according to EA boss John Riccitiello.
Speaking during an investor Q&A today, Riccitiello explained that Mass Effect 3 will boast greater mass appeal than its two predecessors.""
- Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer...rket(2011-05-05))
Does this, as well as the delay to early 2012 sound promising to people? Or do you think it's more related to their investors and/or marketing department?
didymos1120 wrote...
Cootie wrote...
"BioWare is in the process of realigning its Mass Effect franchise to appeal to a larger audience, according to EA boss John Riccitiello.
Speaking during an investor Q&A today, Riccitiello explained that Mass Effect 3 will boast greater mass appeal than its two predecessors.""
- Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer...rket(2011-05-05))
Does this, as well as the delay to early 2012 sound promising to people? Or do you think it's more related to their investors and/or marketing department?
I don't think that interpretation is very accurate. The context is that EA had one of its earnings conference calls, and someone asked why ME3 was being delayed until 2012. The actual Riccitello quote about "shifting" was: "We're huge believers in the IP and are purposefully shifting it to address a larger market opportunity." I'm pretty sure the "it" there refers to the release date. I.e., he was telling investors "We'll make more money if we release it later." As for the rest of that statement, it's so vague I don't know what it actually means as far as development specifics go. I'm sure it was soothing or whatever to the investors though, which was almost certainly the point.
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