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#7601
Maugrim

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Again don't get me wrong I bet they are right, but why not wait to leap off the cliff ?


Fair enough.

I feel really bad for my gay male Shepard. Maybe I'm getting too caught up in his roleplay, but I just feel so sorry for him! He's been all alone since ME1, and if only I'd made him a woman, he would have been alllowed to find happiness with Kelly Chambers or Liara or a string of Asari affairs. My gay!Shep has saved the day so many times, and will keep saving the day in ME3... but why can't he find a pair of strong, masculine arms to confide in?

I know that it's my fault for making him a homosexual male. I am entirely to blame for his loneliness. But Shepard's identity is supposed to be a fluid concept, customizable down to race and gender and morals, and I wanted to play a homosexual male. I just wish that my Shepard could express it!


I know it sucks.  I mean at least I get a quasi-lesbian romance to comfort me even if the denial of it is downright insulting and stings.  Here have a cookie.   They didn't come out quite like they should've...

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#7602
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Siansonea II wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

So, move on now or this gets closed.

Is it just me, or is this the only comment we ever hear from Devs and Moderators on this forum?

No, it's not just you. There are a grand total of 6 responses with the BioWare tag, and they're all from Stanley Woo or Chris Priestly saying for us to stay on topic, don't post spam, etc. Nothing from devs at all. But we know you're reading this, Casey Hudson. We know you're reading this. *narrows eyes*

Even in the old versions of this thread, all we ever saw from Bioware was "Stay on topic" and, eventually, "Thread closed." Why the Mass Effect team refuses to comment on same-sex content but readily jumps to comfort Talimacers will forever confuse me.


Siansonea II wrote...

It's always been a one-way conversation with the Mass Effect team. That's nothing new. In the absence of dialogue, all we can do is try to create the most compelling monologue we can.

That is the greatest justification for this thread I have ever seen. WELL SAID, GOOD SIR OR MADAM.

#7603
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makenzieshepard wrote...

I know it sucks.  I mean at least I get a quasi-lesbian romance to even if the denial of it is downright insulting and stings.  Here have a cookie.   They didn't come out quite like they shoud've...

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...OH MY GOODNESS, THOSE ARE BLACK-AND-WHITE RAINBOW COOKIES.

BLAND, ENRAGING, AND ARGUABLY NON-EXISTENT! JUST LIKE ALL OF MASS EFFECT'S SAME-SEX CONTENT!

I think I love you. <3

#7604
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catabuca wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Rychen wrote...

I havnt lost all hope yet. I still think old crewmates may become romanceable in particular kaidan/ashley. With DA2 its apparent that Bioware is willing to try it out and hopefully it will continue.


We're talking about two completely different teams and franchises though.

The lead of the ME team won't even admit that Liara is an f/f romance.


And here we have the kicker. That both teams originate from the same company is mindboggling.

*brings knees up to chest and rocks backward and forward*


It will be okay *clutches DA2 to her chest*

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catabuca wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Rychen wrote...

I havnt lost all hope yet. I still think old crewmates may become romanceable in particular kaidan/ashley. With DA2 its apparent that Bioware is willing to try it out and hopefully it will continue.


We're talking about two completely different teams and franchises though.

The lead of the ME team won't even admit that Liara is an f/f romance.


And here we have the kicker. That both teams originate from the same company is mindboggling.

*brings knees up to chest and rocks backward and forward*


To be fair, they've all had a few years and a few thousand well-thought-out posts supporting s/s content to balance the scales. Maybe they will surprise us and Kaidan (or Jacob? Ugh.) will be bisexual in ME3. They haven't flat-out said it ain't happenin', just like Kaidan never flat-out said that he didn't like boys as well as girls.

Or maybe they won't do it. That would certainly make a lot of very loud, very awful people very happy, so I'm sure it's worth doing on that basis alone. *that is sarcasm*

<_<

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It's an absolute shame if this is true. I personally enjoy Mass Effect over Dragon Age from a gameplay perspective (though story-wise, DA>>>>>ME), and I will certainly be disappointed if Bioware still holds up its double standard.


It's always been a one-way conversation with the Mass Effect team. That's nothing new. In the absence of dialogue, all we can do is try to create the most compelling monologue we can.


QFT

Modifié par Blacklash93, 05 mai 2011 - 11:47 .


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Blacklash93 wrote...

Abramis brama wrote...

-No new LIs in ME3


Aand... this thread is meaningless. Thank god for that. Literally.

Please take your unwanted and needlessly spiteful comments somewhere else. You've proven yourself capable of nothing more when it comes to this topic.


I'm just stating the facts. Nothing spiteful about that.

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Poor Shepard. 
Forever Alone.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 05 mai 2011 - 11:47 .


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Abramis brama wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Abramis brama wrote...

-No new LIs in ME3


Aand... this thread is meaningless. Thank god for that. Literally.

Please take your unwanted and needlessly spiteful comments somewhere else. You've proven yourself capable of nothing more when it comes to this topic.


I'm just stating the facts. Nothing spiteful about that.

You're purposely trying to discourage us and calling the demise of our cause a gift from God.

That's being spiteful and rude. Like I said, you're capable of nothing other than that with this topic.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 05 mai 2011 - 11:53 .


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Abramis brama wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Abramis brama wrote...

-No new LIs in ME3


Aand... this thread is meaningless. Thank god for that. Literally.

Please take your unwanted and needlessly spiteful comments somewhere else. You've proven yourself capable of nothing more when it comes to this topic.


I'm just stating the facts. Nothing spiteful about that.


*Paragon Interrupt*

Aand...I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions. You're "gloating", and you know it. We know it. Casey Hudson knows it. *narrows eyes at Casey Hudson again*

Contribute something of substance that doesn't come across as self-satisfied gloating, and we'll all happily chime in with our thoughts and feelings. Until then, you can laugh up your sleeves if it makes you happy.

So, back to a real topic, is there any other existing male LI other than Kaidan who makes sense as a potential m/m option? Since we're given to understand that new characters are no longer on the table, we needs must refocus on expanding existing characters, unless we hear from the devs, of course...

<_<

#7611
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Blacklash93 wrote...

You're purposely trying to discourage us and calling the demise of our argument a gift from God.

That's spiteful. Look it up.


Shhh, shhh... don't derail the thread, now.

And basically, I agree with Siansonea and I won't be giving up just yet. There's still hope, and they're not declining anything.

I'm just not buying the game at launch unless some things are confirmed.

#7612
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I wonder if some ppl are under the impression that the longer this thread gets, the more it means something. It doesn't. Not sure why it hasn't been locked with all the needless spam it contains.

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What is it with these people raining in and mistaking their opinions for facts?

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Valcutio wrote...

I wonder if some ppl are under the impression that the longer this thread gets, the more it means something. It doesn't. Not sure why it hasn't been locked with all the needless spam it contains.

Nobody is under that impression. We're making an argument and we're keeping attention on it.

There are some GIF's (some on the mildly innapropriate side for the forum), but that's it. There's no spam coming from those who actually contribute here.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 06 mai 2011 - 12:07 .


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Existing LIs it is then. Kaiden seems the most likely. None of the others really strike me as that fitting but what do I know? >.>

I'm actually glad there will be no new LIs, it allows more development of current ones. :)

#7616
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Certain persons were banned for trolling and being off topic last night, if anyone feels someone is engaging in such practices do not respond and just hit the report button and send a PM to Chris. Trust me it works.  Try not to respond.

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Valcutio wrote...

I wonder if some ppl are under the impression that the longer this thread gets, the more it means something. It doesn't. Not sure why it hasn't been locked with all the needless spam it contains.


Thank you for the bump. We are obviously more important now.
And via the "he who does not object"-logic I'm currently applying to you, this means you're gladly offering your support. Thank you, again, for being open-minded.


Again, back to the topic at hand.
I can see Thane, Miranda, Tali, Kaidan and Ashley as s/s romances. We still don't have a list of all the characters that were originally written as being available to either gender.

Liara is a man, so... I guess he counts?

#7618
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Blacklash93 wrote...

Valcutio wrote...

I wonder if some ppl are under the impression that the longer this thread gets, the more it means something. It doesn't. Not sure why it hasn't been locked with all the needless spam it contains.

Nobody is under that impression. We're making an argument and we're keeping attention on it.

There are some GIF's (some on the admittedly innapropriate side for the forum), but that's it. There's no spam coming from those who actually contribute here.


Unless you count the pointless posts from people trying to state how unnecessary the content in this thread is. There's irony in there somewhere.

#7619
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Valcutio wrote...

I wonder if some ppl are under the impression that the longer this thread gets, the more it means something. It doesn't. Not sure why it hasn't been locked with all the needless spam it contains.


I wonder if some ppl [sic] are under the impression that statements like these are on-topic.

On-topic: How about that Kaidan? How about that Jacob? How about that Thane? How about that Garrus? Think any of them would comfort my frustrated male Sentinel in the galaxy's darkest hour?

#7620
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Cootie wrote...

Liara is a man, so... I guess he counts?


I've always hoped that Bioware would stick to their guns on the issue of Liara and clarify that she was not female *waits for the gasps to die down* Now wait a minute and hear me out!  That means every male Shepard who romanced her would've engaged in a genderqueer relationship!

Just let that sink in for a second.  All those  'straight macho men'....

 :lol:

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 06 mai 2011 - 12:04 .


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Siansonea II wrote...

Casey Hudson knows it. *narrows eyes at Casey Hudson again*

:lol: I rather doubt that Casey Hudson is reading this forum. But it's fun to pretend. I shall join you in glaring in hopes that it somehow brings us same-sex content in ME3! *glaaaaaaare*

Siansonea II wrote...

So, back to a real topic, is there any other existing male LI other than Kaidan who makes sense as a potential m/m option? Since we're given to understand that new characters are no longer on the table, we needs must refocus on expanding existing characters, unless we hear from the devs, of course...


I think that if Bioware chooses to change a male Love Interest into a bisexual option, it would be Kaidan. But if it's not Kaidan... My next bet would be Thane. Followed by Jacob. Then maybe Zaeed. :lol: 

Least likely, in my opion, would be Garrus, but only because I think everyone loves his bromance... But, to be fair, Garrus is the most popular romance overall, so maybe Bioware would make him available to dudes just so we can all experience the inter-species awkwardness? <3

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Cootie wrote...

Liara is a man, so... I guess he counts?


I've always hoped that Bioware would stick to their guns on the issue of Liara and clarify that she was not female *waits for the gasps to die down* Now wait a minute and hear me out!  That means every male Shepard who romanced her would've engaged in a genderqueer relationship!

Just let that sink in for a second.  All those  'straight macho men'....

 :lol:


<3

#7623
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centauri2002 wrote...

Existing LIs it is then. Kaiden seems the most likely. None of the others really strike me as that fitting but what do I know? >.>

I'm actually glad there will be no new LIs, it allows more development of current ones. :)


One thing that makes Kaidan an even more perfect choice is that he doesn't even exist in the games of the people who would be most "offended" by m/m stuff in the game. I'm sure all those little boys who are acting as honor guard for Confident Heterosexual Protagonists couldn't leave him on Virmire fast enough. I mean, let's face it, Kaidan doesn't ever punch a krogan in the face, sexually harass asari strippers, or say naughty words. You honestly think any of them chose our Nice Normal Guy over a character with breasts? I'm thinkin'...not.

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#7624
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makenzieshepard wrote...

Cootie wrote...

Liara is a man, so... I guess he counts?


I've always hoped that Bioware would stick to their guns on the issue of Liara and clarify that she was not female *waits for the gasps to die down* Now wait a minute and hear me out!  That means every male Shepard who romanced her would've engaged in a genderqueer relationship!

Just let that sink in for a second.  All those  'straight macho men'....

 :lol:


As amusing as that thought is...

...it also would mean my Shep was not in a same sex relationship. I don't like that thought. :huh:

@Siansonea: You make a very good point! He's not in my main save either though. >.>

Modifié par centauri2002, 06 mai 2011 - 12:09 .


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catabuca wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Cootie wrote...

Liara is a man, so... I guess he counts?


I've always hoped that Bioware would stick to their guns on the issue of Liara and clarify that she was not female *waits for the gasps to die down* Now wait a minute and hear me out!  That means every male Shepard who romanced her would've engaged in a genderqueer relationship!

Just let that sink in for a second.  All those  'straight macho men'....

 :lol:


<3


Great, now I have that Boy George song "The Crying Game" going through my head.

While it would be ridonkulous from a science standpoint, it would still be worth it just for The Horror Of It All.