So let's say I like Cerberus and I don't want to come back with the Alliance. However other people like being with the Alliance again and didn't like working with Cerberus in ME2 because they are bad (or wrong.)
Then a thread is created: Fight for Cerberus! And people talk about how they want to work with Cerberus and save the galaxy.
Someone writes a post saying that Cerberus is wrong. Shepard is an Alliance soldier, she always was, always will be. People responds that it's okay, the game will have an option to stay with Cerberus and another option to come back to the Alliance. So everyone's happy.
Well, not everyone. The Alliance guy is not happy, because the mere possibility of Shepard staying with Cerberus is just so unnatural for her, that he doesn't want anybody to pick that option.
He's told that he won't see it. For him, it will be exactly like it doesn't exist. All he has to do is not to pick that option. He will be back with the Alliance alright. But that doesn't solve his problem: the option is still there, it exist. Its existence in the game is a problem. He can't help thinking about it. For example, what if he picks up a wrong option, and a NPC asks Shepard if she has ever thought about staying with Cerberus? Oh God, it will be horrible. Not worth the risk.
Okay, let's put it in a DLC, so you won't even have the chance to pick up the option. It won't even exist in your game. Still not enough. You see, if there is a DLC in which Shepard works with Cerberus, then Shepard has the *potential* to do it. And that's just so wrong. What if he mistakenly downloads the DLC and installs it inadvertendly? Eh? What then? Shepard needs to be completely unable by any means to work with Cerberus. Nobody, anywhere, at any time, should ever be able to see Shepard working with Cerberus again.
Because, in his opinion, it's wrong.
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#8077
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:07
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I really want Kaidan for a bisexual male love interest... but I wouldn't say no to a male "Kelly Chambers" style romance. Seriously, at this point, my gay!Shep will take what he can get! And he could do a lot worse than a young man who wants to dance around the captain's quarters...
#8078
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:12
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ElitePinecone wrote...
Jacob is probably my least liked character in a Bioware game ever.
Anomen.
#8079
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:13
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Bill569 wrote...
I mean can you even imagine a male Shepard/Garrus romance option?
I can, actually, and do so quite often. He's exactly the sort of male I'm attracted to and my canon!Shep thinks the same.
Male Shepard has, so far, not been able to profess any romantic feelings for Garrus, but I believe that could change in ME3. The stakes are high and everyone is on edge. In my opinion, it would be plausible for Shepard to confront Garrus under such circumstances.
The most important factor, of course, is writing. The exchange must be written well or it won't seem believable. It would be challenging to pull off, but certainly not impossible. After all, this is Bioware we're talking about.
Would some Garrus fans get upset over this? Definitely. Even so, I am confident the vast majority wouldn't give a damn. It's optional content. Only those who willingly pursued such content would even know it existed. If the player wanted to, they could avoid the content altogether simply by choosing the correct dialogue options.
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#8080
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:15
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I know of that article. It is the same that mistook Ashley for Shepard, isn't it ?ElitePinecone wrote...
Wittand25 wrote...
When and where ?
In an article for PC Gamer, apparently. I haven't read it.
Others have suggested that this was the article authors' interpretation, not a direct quote from Casey. In my opinion the tweet seems like a better source than a secondhand article.
#8081
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:17
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Bill569 wrote...
I mean can you even imagine a male Shepard/Garrus romance option?
Yaeh, I can imagine a romance with anyone for all Shepard's.
#8082
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:18
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yup, but it sounds like they were wrong because one of casey's tweets strongly implies that there will indeed be new love interestsWittand25 wrote...
I know of that article. It is the same that mistook Ashley for Shepard, isn't it ?ElitePinecone wrote...
Wittand25 wrote...
When and where ?
In an article for PC Gamer, apparently. I haven't read it.
Others have suggested that this was the article authors' interpretation, not a direct quote from Casey. In my opinion the tweet seems like a better source than a secondhand article.
#8083
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:20
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@Nyoka
That's actually pretty fitting, except if Bioware said, "We didn't include the 'Cerberus' option due to money and time constraints," I would actually believe them. Then again, adding the option to stay with and be loyal to Cerberus (and thus shifting a lot of major content in the game) is a much more daunting task than allowing my male Shepard to flirt with Kaidan.
That's actually pretty fitting, except if Bioware said, "We didn't include the 'Cerberus' option due to money and time constraints," I would actually believe them. Then again, adding the option to stay with and be loyal to Cerberus (and thus shifting a lot of major content in the game) is a much more daunting task than allowing my male Shepard to flirt with Kaidan.
#8084
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:23
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KawaiiKatie wrote...
@Nyoka
That's actually pretty fitting, except if Bioware said, "We didn't include the 'Cerberus' option due to money and time constraints," I would actually believe them. Then again, adding the option to stay with and be loyal to Cerberus (and thus shifting a lot of major content in the game) is a much more daunting task than allowing my male Shepard to flirt with Kaidan.
Yeah...the Cerberus thing would affect every major quest and possibly even side-quests while the s/s romance with Kaidan would affect only a few conversations (that already exist for the female version) and the romance scene (that already exists for the female version.
Implementing s/s romances means tweaking a few conversations and one scene while the Cerberus thing would entail creating an entire separate branching path for the main quest.
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Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:24
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@KawaiiKatie, indeed. If that attitude is unreasonable in the fake case I've made in my last comment, even more so in the case of s/s relationships, that are way easier and cheaper to implement.
I only wrote that to illustrate why I think that attitude of not letting others do what one doesn't like is unreasonable. I was looking for the concept to draw the analogy without worrying too much about the technical details and implementation because it was only a fake example anyway.
I only wrote that to illustrate why I think that attitude of not letting others do what one doesn't like is unreasonable. I was looking for the concept to draw the analogy without worrying too much about the technical details and implementation because it was only a fake example anyway.
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#8086
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:24
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I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
#8087
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:26
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
Which Shepard?
#8088
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:30
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Every. I am aware that there are million Shepards and millon personalities but some things just don't fit any of those,this one being one of them. Just like no Shepard is a wuss,when you see an enemy,there is no "run away screaming" option. See what I mean?jlb524 wrote...
Ghost Warrior wrote...
I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
Which Shepard?
#8089
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:33
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
Every. I am aware that there are million Shepards and millon personalities but some things just don't fit any of those,this one being one of them. Just like no Shepard is a wuss,when you see an enemy,there is no "run away screaming" option. See what I mean?jlb524 wrote...
Ghost Warrior wrote...
I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
Which Shepard?
...I see.
#8090
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:34
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Actually Jacob is more liked than Udina.ElitePinecone wrote...
Jacob is probably my least liked character in a Bioware game ever. I'm unsure if it's the forced 'bro friendship', the two lines of dialogue, the priiiiiize, or his deference to overblown badassery instead of, y'know, normal human behaviour.
much better character too.
#8091
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:36
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jlb524 wrote...
...I see.
Game. Set. And match.
Besides, sexuality is not defined by personality.
#8092
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:37
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
Every. I am aware that there are million Shepards and millon personalities but some things just don't fit any of those,this one being one of them. Just like no Shepard is a wuss,when you see an enemy,there is no "run away screaming" option. See what I mean?jlb524 wrote...
Ghost Warrior wrote...
I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
Which Shepard?
Did you just equate same-sex relationships with cowardice? And there already are plenty of Shepards involved in same-sex relationships, albeit with Liara and Kelly. Is that somehow acceptable while male same-sex relationships are not? Why?
#8093
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:38
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ORLYNAO?Ghost Warrior wrote...
Every. I am aware that there are million Shepards and millon personalities but some things just don't fit any of those,this one being one of them. Just like no Shepard is a wuss,when you see an enemy,there is no "run away screaming" option. See what I mean?jlb524 wrote...
Ghost Warrior wrote...
I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
Which Shepard?
#8094
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:39
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ElitePinecone wrote...
Jacob is probably my least liked character in a Bioware game ever. I'm unsure if it's the forced 'bro friendship', the two lines of dialogue, the priiiiiize, or his deference to overblown badassery instead of, y'know, normal human behaviour.
What do you mean by this? Jacob gets a lot of hate on these boards for being too normal or too stable. Are you accusing him of hero-worship for Shepard? I'd say Garrus is far guiltier of that than Jacob.
#8095
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:42
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don't forget about Tali too.lazuli wrote...
ElitePinecone wrote...
Jacob is probably my least liked character in a Bioware game ever. I'm unsure if it's the forced 'bro friendship', the two lines of dialogue, the priiiiiize, or his deference to overblown badassery instead of, y'know, normal human behaviour.
What do you mean by this? Jacob gets a lot of hate on these boards for being too normal or too stable. Are you accusing him of hero-worship for Shepard? I'd say Garrus is far guiltier of that than Jacob.
#8096
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:48
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
I definitely wouldn't want same-sex romances because I really think it's simply not in Shepard's character.
So, you're some kind of expert on what effect same-sex romance interest has on a person's "character"?
#8097
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:49
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First of all,Liara is not female,asari don't have sex like other species do.
And Kelly is not a true LI.
And Kelly is not a true LI.
#8098
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:50
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
First of all,Liara is not female,asari don't have sex like other species do.
And Kelly is not a true LI.
So, what is my Shepard's sexual orientation then?
#8099
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:50
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
First of all,Liara is not female,asari don't have sex like other species do.
And Kelly is not a true LI.
Don't make me link the all-female codex entry. And how two people have sex isn't important.
#8100
Posté 12 mai 2011 - 04:51
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Ghost Warrior wrote...
First of all,Liara is not female,asari don't have sex like other species do.
And Kelly is not a true LI.
You were saying?
