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[ADLegend21]

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

FemShep can't romance Miranda.

Ah yes "Femshep can't romance Miranda":

I have dismissed that claim.

*snip of not so good looking FemShep with terrible dress*

That's modding so it doesn't count.

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough. Also, she looks good enough for the perfect woman.

Modifié par ADLegend21, 12 mai 2011 - 05:32 .

[Ghost Warrior]

[quote]Olwydd wrote...


And you've been proven time and again thet you're wrong. Liara is female, no two ways around it.  Do yourself a favour and read the codex, and then look up the term 'parthenogenisis'. And for the sake of all that is san, GENDER DOES NOT EQUATE TO SEX! They are different, not the same. One is a social construct, the other is a biological trait.
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About difference between sex and gender - I was wrong,just matter of my English
And correct me if I'm wrong,but didn't Liara say in ME2 that the asari don't have genders,at least not the way we would understand.

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And as for your Kelly example; I know girls who are bisexual, and would date other women. So there.
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Doesn't make sense.My example said that there are women who like other women in terms of appearance,but are not really lesbians because they can't see themselves in any kind of romantic relationship with other women.
Your example said that bisexual women would date other women. Gee,thanks,I didn't know that.

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And sexuality does not determine personality or level of badassery.
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It determines the way you see someone.

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Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 12 mai 2011 - 05:35 .

[Ryzaki]

Ryzaki wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

First of all,Liara is not female,asari don't have sex like other species do.
And Kelly is not a true LI.

You were saying? (Since you ignored it before)

LIara is female. 

FemShepardxLiara is a homosexual female relationship. 

Yeah...I guess this must be invisible huh? 

[Ghost Warrior]

@Ryzaki
Codex was known to be wrong more than once.

[ADLegend21]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...
Ask BioWare. And if it was up to me,there would never have existed the option for FemShep romancing  Liara and Kelly. And I know I said the asari don't have genders but Liara is by all human standards a female and the entire asari thing sounds like a lame excuse BioWare invented to put some lesbian romance in the game.

Alright, but My femshep has romanced Jacob and Mirada, so what is she oh designator of sexualities.

FemShep can't romance Miranda.

Ah yes "Femshep can't romance Miranda":





I have dismissed that claim.

you and me both Ryazaki

[Olwydd]

[quote]Ghost Warrior wrote...

1) About difference between sex and gender - I was wrong,just matter of my English
And
correct me if I'm wrong,but didn't Liara say in ME2 that the asari
don't have genders,at least not the way we would understand.

2) Doesn't
make sense.My example said that there are women who like other women in
terms of appearance,but are not really lesbians because they can't see
themselves in any kind of romantic relationship with other women.
Your example said that bisexual women would date other women. Gee,thanks,I didn't know that.

3) It determines the way you see someone.

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1) Liara is sexually female. Ergo any relationship between a female Shep and Liara is a same-SEX relationship. Gender really doesn't enter into it.

2) So you admit your point was pointless. You know girls who wouldn't date other girls, and know girls who would. What a wonderful world full of diversity we live in.

3) So? What does that have to do with anything?

Modifié par Olwydd, 12 mai 2011 - 05:38 .

[Siansonea]

If two people can be pregnant at the same time, they're both female. Asari can get pregnant and have babies, therefore they are female aliens. DEAL WITH IT, IDIOTS. You can try to lawyer that same-sex option for female Shepard away if you want, but it's an exercise in Fail Logic, and really only shows that you'd rather bend the fake reality of Mass Effect to support your own hatred/fear/resentment/stupidity toward homosexuality in the real world. Congratulations on achieving "Cro-Magnon" on the evolutionary scale. Have a cookie.

Now, back to same-sex LI options, maybe we could get the Normandy Requisitions Officer from ME1 back as a Male Kelly? I wouldn't mind seeing him dance for my male Sentinel. And he shops for a living, that has to satisfy those who seek to reinforce stereotypes at all cost.

[CroGamer002]

ADLegend21 wrote...

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough.

Then how I'm not able to do F/F romance then?

Also, she looks good enough for the perfect woman.

Maybe after crate of beers.

[Siansonea]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

@Ryzaki
Codex was known to be wrong more than once.

Oh, well that proves that the Codex is wrong in this case too. Oh, wait, NO IT DOESN'T. <_<

[Ryzaki]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

@Ryzaki
Codex was known to be wrong more than once.

Wat. 

What was the codex wrong on OTHER THAN SOVEREIGN. Sovereign =/= a species that has been studied, dissected and seen in the land for a thousand years. Sovereign is also a government coverup. 

Why woud anyone bother covering up what gender the Asari are? That doesn't even make any sense. 

[AdmiralCheez]

It was requested I just leave this here...

[KawaiiKatie]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Olwydd wrote...

And sexuality does not determine personality or level of badassery.

It determines the way you see someone.

If you can't see my gay Shepard as a hero, even if he's doing the exact same heroic things your straight Shepard is doing, based solely on the fact that he is gay, then it's your failure, and it's a bigoted one at that.

My Shepard is gay. And until the game forces him to sleep with a woman, he will always be gay. I, like most people on this forum, merely wish that the Mass Effect series would allow him to express it, the same way lesbian Shepards can express their homosexuality with Kelly and Liara. For you to look at my Shepard, or any of the lesbian Shepards, and say "No, all the heroic things you've done negates your homosexuality because I just don't believe that such a heroic person could be gay" is just outright offensive.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 12 mai 2011 - 05:43 .

[Siansonea]

ZoSo159 wrote...

As long as none of them try to hit on me or I accedently make them by just trying to be friends. Otherwise Zaeed's garbage disposal is going to be compacting more than just assorted scraps.

Right, because the appropriate response to an unwanted advance from someone of the same sex is to kill them and send their body through the ship's garbage disposal. You, know, you could have just went with "How About No", but that wouldn't have proven your heterosexuality clearly enough. 

Kids these days...

[ADLegend21]

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough.

Then how I'm not able to do F/F romance then?

not smart enough? I was able to figure it out.

[Siansonea]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

It was requested I just leave this here...

Thanks AC. This girl is lovely, by the way. I'd love for my male Shepard to be able to romance her. 

[ADLegend21]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

It was requested I just leave this here...

well there goes the liquid refreshment I was consuming.

[jlb524]

I'm still wondering what my Female Shepard's sexual orientation is and waiting for an answer...

ADLegend21 wrote...

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough. Also, she looks good enough for the perfect woman.

I think the point is that FemShep/Miranda isn't a BW intended romance (like FemShep/Liara).

In the abstract realm of "all possible ME playthrough variatons that BW created" that romance isn't there.  However, in your specific game it is (as you hacked it) and it's no less meaningful/important/awesome than the vanilla BW ones, b/c it's yours and you can enjoy it.

Which comes back to the point:  the only thing that should matter is what's happening in your game on your PC screen or TV monitor.

[CroGamer002]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough.

Then how I'm not able to do F/F romance then?

not smart enough? I was able to figure it out.

You mean WITHOUT modding?

[lovgreno]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

It was requested I just leave this here...*Picture of male asari thingy*

I fully support this in ME3. We could call them Zevrans.

Modifié par lovgreno, 12 mai 2011 - 05:58 .

[Wittand25]

Please refrain from quoting pictures or posting too many of them. It makes the thread harder to read and has the potential to break the format of the site (unless that has been resolved already)

The sex of the Asari does not matter. What does matter is that they are female to the eyes of humans. They show every single secondary and tertiary sexual characteristic of a human female in a western society (face form, body-hair, shape of torso, breasts, voice, wearing occasionally dresses, mostly gravitate to social jobs (diplomat, merchant,... ) that do not require heavy lifting ....). Every human that is not comatose who encounters an Asari would instantly recognise them as female.

PS: I hope the division in primary (reproductive organs), secondary (all other biological differences between the sexes) and tertiary (social differences between genders) is still correct today. The last time I heard of them was in high school biology more than a decade ago and I believe things have changed since then and new characteristics added.

Modifié par Wittand25, 12 mai 2011 - 05:57 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Then how I'm not able to do F/F romance then?

not smart enough? I was able to figure it out.

You mean WITHOUT modding?

Well, yeah. Anyone who starts up a game in ME1 or ME2 and decides to make a lesbian Shepard can express it by inviting Kelly to striptease in her private quarters, or by having sex with a hypererotic feminine-species made up entirely of strippers and erotic assassins.

....but that's just me. If you're disappointed that your lesbian Shepard isn't "gay" enough, then I think you're suffering from a case of "doing it wrong."

But fear not! Your lesbian Shepard can end her woes by jumping into bed with one of the "erotic assassins" I mentioned. Have you met Morinth? Yeah, she'll blow your mind.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 12 mai 2011 - 05:54 .

[ADLegend21]

jlb524 wrote...

I'm still wondering what my Female Shepard's sexual orientation is and waiting for an answer...

ADLegend21 wrote...

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough. Also, she looks good enough for the perfect woman.

I think the point is that FemShep/Miranda isn't a BW intended romance (like FemShep/Liara).

In the abstract realm of "all possible ME playthrough variatons that BW created" that romance isn't there.  However, in your specific game it is (as you hacked it) and it's no less meaningful/important/awesome than the vanilla BW ones, b/c it's yours and you can enjoy it.

Which comes back to the point:  the only thing that should matter is what's happening in your game on your PC screen or TV monitor.

Correct, even so bioware came to accomidate me (and others like me) by adding the S/S dialogue in LoTSB, which I had to do a proverbial double take at. and every game is different,

[ADLegend21]

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

really? Seemed to count when she talked to Liara about her and it also seems to count since that's her Canon playthrough.

Then how I'm not able to do F/F romance then?

not smart enough? I was able to figure it out.

You mean WITHOUT modding?

if you aren't modding you aren't trying.

[CroGamer002]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Then how I'm not able to do F/F romance then?

not smart enough? I was able to figure it out.

You mean WITHOUT modding?

Well, yeah. Anyone who starts up a game in ME1 or ME2 and decides to make a lesbian Shepard can express it by inviting Kelly to striptease in her private quarters, or by having sex with a hypererotic feminine-species made up entirely of strippers and erotic assassins.

....but that's just me. If you're disappointed that your lesbian Shepard isn't "gay" enough, then I think you're suffering from a case of "doing it wrong."

But fear not! Your lesbian Shepard can end her woes by jumping into bed with one of the "erotic assassins" I mentioned. Have you met Morinth? Yeah, she'll blow your mind.

I was talking about Miranda.

Also I already have one loyal to Liara, unless cheating her with Samara and Kelly counts.

Modifié par Mesina2, 12 mai 2011 - 05:57 .