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[RunicDragons]

centauri2002 wrote...

RunicDragons wrote...

Just telling my opinion if that isn't OK?

I'm not entirely sure on your opinion at the moment. You say you wouldn't mind if same sex content was or wasn't in the game. Fair enough. But then you also say that Shepard won't suddenly become gay. Either the former is an empty statement or you're just confused about the latter. Shepard is a customisable character so that doesn't even come into play.

Like I said... I don't think they will do it... But if they do, I won't be against it...
I actually kinda like the idea, gives the player more freedom and stuff..

Modifié par RunicDragons, 14 mai 2011 - 06:40 .

[Siansonea]

Where did the others go? Why is it every time I see a particularly good point being made, the anti-gay people crawl back into the woodwork?

[Ghost Warrior]

Nyoka wrote...

What a strange argument. A man is heterosexual until proven otherwise? Heterosexuality by default?

This was my post (about Kaidan):

But he can hook up with Fem Shep and I think that's pretty solid
evidence that he likes women. However,he can't hook up with male
Shepard. If you ask me,he is straight until proven otherwise.

That doesn't mean someone is straight by default. It means that if Kaidan gets on with female Shepard and shows no interest in men,he is straight until proven otherwise,because there is no reason to believe he is bisexual.

So by your logic,every person in the world who doesn't directly say "I am not gay" or "I am not straight" could be bisexual?



EDIT: I'm going out now,so I won't be able to post until tommorow.
It's been fun everyone,see ya all tommorow!

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 14 mai 2011 - 06:44 .

[Siansonea]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

What a strange argument. A man is heterosexual until proven otherwise? Heterosexuality by default?

This was my post (about Kaidan):

But he can hook up with Fem Shep and I think that's pretty solid
evidence that he likes women. However,he can't hook up with male
Shepard. If you ask me,he is straight until proven otherwise.

That doesn't mean someone is straight by default. It means that if Kaidan gets on with female Shepard and shows no interest in men,he is straight until proven otherwise,because there is no reason to believe he is bisexual.

So by your logic, every person in the world who doesn't directly say "I am not gay" or "I am not straight" could be bisexual?

YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

Anyone could be bisexual, unless they specifically state that they are NOT bisexual. It doesn't mean they ARE bisexual, only that they could be. Do we need to have the "maybe" conversation again?

[Space Toaster]

Ghost Warrior wrote...
every person in the world who doesn't directly say "I am not gay" or "I am not straight" could be bisexual?

Yes. They could be hetero, ******, asexual, etc. too.

Modifié par Space Toaster, 14 mai 2011 - 06:46 .

[Centauri2002]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

What a strange argument. A man is heterosexual until proven otherwise? Heterosexuality by default?

This was my post (about Kaidan):

But he can hook up with Fem Shep and I think that's pretty solid
evidence that he likes women. However,he can't hook up with male
Shepard. If you ask me,he is straight until proven otherwise.

That doesn't mean someone is straight by default. It means that if Kaidan gets on with female Shepard and shows no interest in men,he is straight until proven otherwise,because there is no reason to believe he is bisexual.

So by your logic,every person in the world who doesn't directly say "I am not gay" or "I am not straight" could be bisexual?



EDIT: I'm going out now,so I won't be able to post until tommorow.
It's been fun everyone,see ya all tommorow!

No, every person in the world could be any sexuality whatsoever. That's the point.

[Jademoon121]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

What a strange argument. A man is heterosexual until proven otherwise? Heterosexuality by default?

This was my post (about Kaidan):

But he can hook up with Fem Shep and I think that's pretty solid
evidence that he likes women. However,he can't hook up with male
Shepard. If you ask me,he is straight until proven otherwise.

That doesn't mean someone is straight by default. It means that if Kaidan gets on with female Shepard and shows no interest in men,he is straight until proven otherwise,because there is no reason to believe he is bisexual.

So by your logic,every person in the world who doesn't directly say "I am not gay" or "I am not straight" could be bisexual?



EDIT: I'm going out now,so I won't be able to post until tommorow.
It's been fun everyone,see ya all tommorow!

Precisely. Unless if he(Shep or Kaiden) say they only like women(which they don't), they could be bisexual for all we know.

[Siansonea]

Anyone else ever notice how the anti-gay crowd completely ignores most of our points? Are they physically incapable of reading logical statements that contradict their prejudices? It's really exhausting trying to have a conversation with a group who addresses less than half of what we're saying.

[KawaiiKatie]

DEAR COMMANDER SHEPARD:

If you were gay,
I'd shout, "HOORAY!"
And here I'd stay,
Pushing Miranda out of your way.

You can count on me
To always be

Beside you every day
To tell you "Kaidan's gay~"
Don't matter what CHudson say
End of the day?
Your still my Shep to play!
YOU'RE GAAAAY!

(I'M AM SO GAY!)

MY SHEP IS GAY!

(YAAAAAH~!)

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 14 mai 2011 - 06:56 .

[Blacklash93]

Well... at least no one will get their hopes up anymore.

Can we at least get Bioware to admit that you can role-play play as a gay Shepard? Get him to insinuate he's gay with onlly one line of dialogue? Get a gay squadmate (since he won't be a LI anyway)?

... Is it too much to hope for even one of those small mercies?

[Siansonea]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Well... at least no one will get their hopes up anymore.

Can we at least get Bioware to admit that you can role-play play as a gay Shepard? Get him to insinuate he's gay with onlly one line of dialogue? Get a gay squadmate (since he won't be a LI anyway)?

... Is it too much to hope for even one of those small mercies?

You mean having ManShep running around in bright pink armor with yellow stripes isn't enough of a statement?

[Ryzaki]

Yellow stripes? I had white ones.

I was doing it wrong?

[Siansonea]

Ryzaki wrote...

Yellow stripes? I had white ones.

I was doing it wrong?

White and lilac are acceptable alternates, dear. 

[BrandNewMan]

Siansonea II wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Well... at least no one will get their hopes up anymore.

Can we at least get Bioware to admit that you can role-play play as a gay Shepard? Get him to insinuate he's gay with onlly one line of dialogue? Get a gay squadmate (since he won't be a LI anyway)?

... Is it too much to hope for even one of those small mercies?

You mean having ManShep running around in bright pink armor with yellow stripes isn't enough of a statement?

And being able to dance in front of Kaidan for hours on end.

[Ryzaki]

Mezzil wrote...

Yeah but MS doesn't like M/M romance and didn't want it in JE going [url=http://pats-quinade.livejournal.com/9429.html]this[url] comment- "When Microsoft had issues with the gay male romance -- because two women? HOT. But two guys? Ew -- the BioWare folks fought some pretty hard battles to get that thing out the door with as equal a treatment as possible."  However ME2 wasn't published by MS, so I guess MS is not the only ones to blame.

 

Yeah the only flaw was that he kiss blacked out. But that was due to clipping isses (i use the mod and there is serious clipping issues with that kiss). I mean...I could've done with a fade to black with the excuse they ran out of time to do the love scene. Because hell the rest of it woul've been in the game! I can live without a sex scene! 

But yeah it wasn't MS with ME2. That was BW's doing. Can't blame EA because DA2. 

[Siansonea]

BrandNewMan wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Well... at least no one will get their hopes up anymore.

Can we at least get Bioware to admit that you can role-play play as a gay Shepard? Get him to insinuate he's gay with onlly one line of dialogue? Get a gay squadmate (since he won't be a LI anyway)?

... Is it too much to hope for even one of those small mercies?

You mean having ManShep running around in bright pink armor with yellow stripes isn't enough of a statement?

And being able to dance in front of Kaidan for hours on end.

How Kaidan could resist ManShep's moves on the dance floor is beyond me. Maybe he's more of a long-walks-on-the-beach type of a guy? 

[Ryzaki]

Siansonea II wrote...
How Kaidan could resist ManShep's moves on the dance floor is beyond me. Maybe he's more of a long-walks-on-the-beach type of a guy? 

Heh. He'll diffenetly be able to resist the shepard shuffle. I don't know even know if Shepard's trying anymore. Maybe his legs are extra heavy from all the muscle weave. 

[Siansonea]

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...
How Kaidan could resist ManShep's moves on the dance floor is beyond me. Maybe he's more of a long-walks-on-the-beach type of a guy? 

Heh. He'll diffenetly be able to resist the shepard shuffle. I don't know even know if Shepard's trying anymore. Maybe his legs are extra heavy from all the muscle weave. 

Aw, I find ManShep's awkward dancing to be quite endearing. It shows that he can't be good at everything. 

[Ryzaki]

Siansonea II wrote...
Aw, I find ManShep's awkward dancing to be quite endearing. It shows that he can't be good at everything. 

I find Shep's plenty bad at stuff already. Particularly at flirting. 

[Siansonea]

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...
Aw, I find ManShep's awkward dancing to be quite endearing. It shows that he can't be good at everything. 

I find Shep's plenty bad at stuff already. Particularly at flirting. 

It's a wonder he (and she) doesn't get shot down more often. Other than Mordin and Samara, it seems like most people fall for Shep's Smooth Moves rather too easily. I mean, Shepard can be quite hideous if the player is not skillful at designing custom faces, or if one has a perverse sense of humor. Or if one uses the default face. 

[Ryzaki]

Siansonea II wrote...
It's a wonder he (and she) doesn't get shot down more often. Other than Mordin and Samara, it seems like most people fall for Shep's Smooth Moves rather too easily. I mean, Shepard can be quite hideous if the player is not skillful at designing custom faces, or if one has a perverse sense of humor. Or if one uses the default face. 

 

 Or Ugly Shepard. 

Good grief. That's not realistic at all and yet everyone swoons over him. (well everyone that's female). And I love being a racist cerberus supporting douchebag and still sleep with Liara/Tali. That's real realistic and respectful to the characters. <_<

[Siansonea]

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...
It's a wonder he (and she) doesn't get shot down more often. Other than Mordin and Samara, it seems like most people fall for Shep's Smooth Moves rather too easily. I mean, Shepard can be quite hideous if the player is not skillful at designing custom faces, or if one has a perverse sense of humor. Or if one uses the default face. 

 

 Or Ugly Shepard. 

Good grief. That's not realistic at all and yet everyone swoons over him. (well everyone that's female). And I love being a racist cerberus supporting douchebag and still sleep with Liara/Tali. That's real realistic and respectful to the characters. <_<

True that. My Infiltrator is a total human supremacist, he only brought Tali along because Udina insisted, told Garrus he didn't need a turian stabbing him in the back while he was off hunting another turian, and would have gotten Wrex killed if he wasn't already down to four squadmates by the time he hit Virmire. Only after Virmire, and after exhausting every other lead, did he FINALLY go get Benezia's daughter, who did some weird asari voodoo thing like that chick on Feros did. He was a complete toolbag to Liara and to Tali, didn't take them anywhere, didn't talk to them, and yet they still think they're friends? Whatevs, aliens.

[Ryzaki]

Siansonea II wrote...
True that. My Infiltrator is a total human supremacist, he only brought Tali along because Udina insisted, told Garrus he didn't need a turian stabbing him in the back while he was off hunting another turian, and would have gotten Wrex killed if he wasn't already down to four squadmates by the time he hit Virmire. Only after Virmire, and after exhausting every other lead, did he FINALLY go get Benezia's daughter, who did some weird asari voodoo thing like that chick on Feros did. He was a complete toolbag to Liara and to Tali, didn't take them anywhere, didn't talk to them, and yet they still think they're friends? Whatevs, aliens.

I love how character consistency in romances only matters when it comes to m/m.  

And yeah the buddy buddy act Garrus was throwing at my renedouche Shepard was a  moment. It was a "dude I only recruited your turian ass because you had valuable intel. That does not make us friends." And yeah he was a complete toolbag to both of them except for some cheesy come ons because he wanted to see what the fuss was about with Asari and was a sexist douchebag. 

And they fell head over heels. <_< Gag me with a spoon. 

And Tali apparently loved him all along when he was blaming her people for what happened with the Geth and telling her he wasn't giving her squat when she asked for the Geth data. Real crush material there.  

Offtopic: Thanks for the pedo Shepard thoughts guys. Now I can't get this song out of my head. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 mai 2011 - 09:35 .