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#8501
jlb524

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The ME romances definitely lack context and even feel tacked on to an extent...which is why these problems arise. But you are right...most overlook these shortcomings, but refuse to do so with m/m romances and hold them to some ridiculously high standard for believability and consistency that none of the hetero romances even meet.

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http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

"Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

Casey Hudson
"Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

Credit to catabuca

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 14 mai 2011 - 10:23 .


#8503
Ryzaki

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

"Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

Casey Hudson
"Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

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*sprays soda all over of her keyboard* 

And my respect has risen from the grave. 

If they actually acknowledge Liara's a female they'll get 20 kudos. They're currently at -15 kudos though. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 mai 2011 - 10:23 .


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I tweeted to CHud: http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

Me: "Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

CHud: "Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

edit: i see someone already linked to my tweet. ok. i'm late as usual. anyway.

Modifié par catabuca, 14 mai 2011 - 10:22 .


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Blacklash93

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A response? An actual response semi-recognizing the double standard? Image IPB

Am I dreaming? Are fire and brimstone raining from the skies right now?

Modifié par Blacklash93, 14 mai 2011 - 10:22 .


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Vertigo_1 wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

"Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

Casey Hudson
"Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"


Now this is promising. Even if he's not hinting at extra content, it looks like we might actually get some answers. Thanks for linking. :)

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catabuca wrote...

I tweeted to CHud: http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

Me: "Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

CHud: "Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

edit: i see someone already linked to my tweet. ok. i'm late as usual. anyway.


That was you? Well thanks for asking...I credited you in my post :D

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

catabuca wrote...

I tweeted to CHud: http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

Me: "Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

CHud: "Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

edit: i see someone already linked to my tweet. ok. i'm late as usual. anyway.


That was you? Well thanks for asking...I credited you in my post :D


Yes, that's me.

His earlier tweet about asexual annoyed me, so I felt moved to comment further on the issue. It's a question that has upset me for some time.

I have no idea what his reply to me means. I think we should be cautious and not assume it means there will be something for us in ME3. But there it is, nonetheless.

#8509
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catabuca wrote...

I tweeted to CHud: http://twitter.com/#...526341707513856

Me: "Why can fShep identify as gay and pursue a relationship appropriate to that orientation when mShep can't? A double standard?"

CHud: "Valid questions, and ones that we're discussing internally. Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

edit: i see someone already linked to my tweet. ok. i'm late as usual. anyway.


I think in the state we are in that any news is good news, relatively speaking of course!  Thing is I know they aren't really going to discuss particulars till a month or so out of release and I can't see us getting special  confirmation about s/s LI's no matter how richly deserved it would be.

Also thanks for continuing to ask stuff through twitter, I think it we keep it polite(again relatively!) and persistent  we might finally start to get some results.

#8510
jlb524

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That actually seems promising, as if they are considering adding in m/m content.

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Huh. I saw the tweet and was actually shocked to see that it was answered. I would figure if they don't include it, they'd just slide it under the rug. But since he did...

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He does say there's more to the Asari than being asexual by the strictest definition, to be fair.

Someone should tweet to him what the codex says, though. It specifically states they are not asexual.

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Well, that's something. Huzzah!

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I'll just leave this here.Image IPB

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Hipster Ashley is the most amazing thing ever, even if I don't really want my FemShep to sleep with her.

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Maybe you've seen this already but it sounds like the're still toeing the same old party line of there being no homosexuality in ME  :crying::



PC Gamer: So it’s all existing characters… I’m just trying to think what gay or lesbian characters that gives you. That would leave Liara?

Casey Hudson: Well yeah, it’s going to be similar to Mass Effect 1 and 2. Like I say, we’re not introducing any new characters that are going to be love interests. There’s some new characters, but generally it’s going to be the interplay between the characters from 2 and the returning ones from 1, and then Liara as the one that’s… either asexual or omnisexual, depends on how you look at it.

Modifié par Em23, 15 mai 2011 - 12:03 .


#8517
Centauri2002

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Yep, Em, we discussed that a couple pages back. CHudson actually said, in regards to that article, not to believe everything in print. So we're still no closer to knowing the truth. >.>

Modifié par centauri2002, 15 mai 2011 - 12:15 .


#8518
Ziggy

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 Oh good :) not knowing is better than knowing there's not.

#8519
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Em23 wrote...

Maybe you've seen this already but it sounds like the're still toeing the same old party line of there being no homosexuality in ME  :crying::

The latest tweet seems promising.

I don't think he's denying that FemShep/Liara is a homosexual relationship there, he's just pointing out that Liara isn't LGBT in the conventional way.

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That's true, but that's been their excuse for not letting mshep express his gayness too (ie the predefined shep line) so it's not a good sign when they start down that road again.... But their refusal to give a direct answer could be a good sign...

#8521
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Well that's a beam of hope, lets hope it stays that way.

#8522
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Em23 wrote...

That's true, but that's been their excuse for not letting mshep express his gayness too (ie the predefined shep line) so it's not a good sign when they start down that road again.... But their refusal to give a direct answer could be a good sign...

But there's also Kelly. And people have been tweeting him that the codex say Liara IS female so maybe he finally got the message.

Even if Asari weren't truly female, you'd still have to be attracted to the feminine aesthetic to be attracted to them. It's undeniably lesbian on the human's side. I'm sure Casey realizes this.

Much yet to be revealed regarding #ME3"

Way to leave us with baited breath, Casey! Image IPB 

Modifié par Blacklash93, 15 mai 2011 - 12:37 .


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Blacklash93 wrote...

Em23 wrote...

That's true, but that's been their excuse for not letting mshep express his gayness too (ie the predefined shep line) so it's not a good sign when they start down that road again.... But their refusal to give a direct answer could be a good sign...

But there's also Kelly. And people have been tweeting him that the codex say Liara IS female so maybe he finally got the message.

Even if Asari weren't truly female, you'd still have to be attracted to the feminine aesthetic to be attracted to them. It's undeniably lesbian on the human's side. I'm sure Casey realizes this.


Breasts, female pronouns, maternal instincts, goddess-worship, feminine manners.

Asari aren't women at all.

#8524
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Jademoon121 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Em23 wrote...

That's true, but that's been their excuse for not letting mshep express his gayness too (ie the predefined shep line) so it's not a good sign when they start down that road again.... But their refusal to give a direct answer could be a good sign...

But there's also Kelly. And people have been tweeting him that the codex say Liara IS female so maybe he finally got the message.

Even if Asari weren't truly female, you'd still have to be attracted to the feminine aesthetic to be attracted to them. It's undeniably lesbian on the human's side. I'm sure Casey realizes this.


Breasts, female pronouns, maternal instincts, goddess-worship, feminine manners.

Asari aren't women at all.


Not only do they use female pronouns but the male pronouns have no equivelant (or basically doesn't exist) in their language. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 mai 2011 - 12:38 .


#8525
Jademoon121

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Ryzaki wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Em23 wrote...

That's true, but that's been their excuse for not letting mshep express his gayness too (ie the predefined shep line) so it's not a good sign when they start down that road again.... But their refusal to give a direct answer could be a good sign...

But there's also Kelly. And people have been tweeting him that the codex say Liara IS female so maybe he finally got the message.

Even if Asari weren't truly female, you'd still have to be attracted to the feminine aesthetic to be attracted to them. It's undeniably lesbian on the human's side. I'm sure Casey realizes this.


Breasts, female pronouns, maternal instincts, goddess-worship, feminine manners.

Asari aren't women at all.


Not only do they use female pronouns but the male pronouns have no equivelant (or basically doesn't exist) in their language. 


Unless if you're Aria...