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[AdmiralCheez]

Space Toaster wrote...

His religion probably has no views regarding homosexuality.
There are plenty of bisexual and closeted gay men with wives and children.

Yeah, but he REALLY loved his wife, so "closeted gay" is a no.

Bi?  Maybe.

[Mr.House]

Tali and Garrus strike me as pansexual, thus there is no issues.

[Mr.House]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Space Toaster wrote...

His religion probably has no views regarding homosexuality.
There are plenty of bisexual and closeted gay men with wives and children.

Yeah, but he REALLY loved his wife, so "closeted gay" is a no.

Bi?  Maybe.

Could be maleshep caught his eyes and he decided to sample the goods.

[-Skorpious-]

Space Toaster wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
I just think its wierd if Thane, a deeply religious man who was married and has a child, suddenly decides he loves men

His religion probably has no views regarding homosexuality.
There are plenty of bisexual and closeted gay men with wives and children.

I anticipated this. It just feels...wrong. From a personalitiy standpoint I mean -

"Sorry Shepard, you were the wrong sex last game(s), but I love you now!", seems cheap to me. At least Anders had the benefit of being a non-romancable character, so his sexual preferences were still in the air; but the ME/ME2 crew are established characters with established personalities. 

Like I said, I would be ok if one or two characters are bisexual, but not if EVERYONE is bisexual.

Mr.House wrote...

Tali and Garrus strike me as pansexual, thus there is no issues. 

Agree with Tali (the game even hints at this) but not with Garrus. Not only does Garrus have a "sparring" conversation in ME2, but none of his dialogue (both in-game and cut) hint at his preference for men as sexual partners. 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 15 mai 2011 - 11:48 .

[Jademoon121]

Mr.House wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Space Toaster wrote...

His religion probably has no views regarding homosexuality.
There are plenty of bisexual and closeted gay men with wives and children.

Yeah, but he REALLY loved his wife, so "closeted gay" is a no.

Bi?  Maybe.

Could be maleshep caught his eyes and he decided to sample the goods.

His wife is dead and he had a boderline crimminal for a son if not for Shepherd....there could be something there.

[Mr.House]

Everyone will turn pansexual.

[ThatDancingTurian]

jlb524 wrote...

It doesn't say anything about his orientation in reference to turians.  It also makes no sense that he'd go for a human female, but he did it b/c of personality only....why couldn't the same happen with a ManShep?

He didn't say it was personality only, though. He could be immensely turned on by her feminine waist.

Again, I'm still holding out hope that the game's art team has their own ideas on female turians. But even using those designs as guides, there are certain female similarities. For one, the DH females are more slender than males, they also have rounder faceplates. These could be considered feminine characteristics.

[Clonedzero]

Mr.House wrote...

Everyone will turn pansexual.

you leave my damn pans alone! i cook with those!

[Bolboreta]

jlb524 wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
He said he doesn't have a 'fetish' for humans, period. But that means nothing in regards to his orientation.

It doesn't say anything about his orientation in reference to turians.  It also makes no sense that he'd go for a human female, but he did it b/c of personality only....why couldn't the same happen with a ManShep?

Then they should have done it in ME2, don't you think that? Because if he were bi, he wouldn't have minded mShep flirted with him. Or Tali would be interested in a fShep too, not only for friendship. 

I want same sex romances. I support them and I plan to play them in some of my playthroughs, but I think asking for same sex romances it's not the same that making everyone bi in ME3, because then they should have been bi in the other games.

[Ryzaki]

Why would Garrus tell Shepard about his past male partners? The only reason the female turian was brought up was because of the preparing for a mission conversation.

Sometimes people don't tell you something unless it's necessary or they think you should know. Having same sex partners easily falls into that. 

Why would Garrus bring up past male lovers to Shepard? Shepard doesn't ask. It has no relevance on what they're doing. And Garrus doesn't even consider a relationship with Shepard until Shepard brings it up. 

Only thing I see is only FemShep can bring it up. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 15 mai 2011 - 11:51 .

[Mr.House]

None of the LIs ever said they where straight, thus there is no rewriting. Just because one gender could not romance them in one game means nothing at all.

[jlb524]

Bolboreta wrote...

Then they should have done it in ME2, don't you think that? Because if he were bi, he wouldn't have minded mShep flirted with him. Or Tali would be interested in a fShep too, not only for friendship. 

The problem is that Shepard couldn't show interest in them in ME2, not the other way around.

Perhaps Garrus wouldn't mine if MShep flirted with him if MShep could flirt with him.

[Mr.House]

jlb524 wrote...

Bolboreta wrote...

Then they should have done it in ME2, don't you think that? Because if he were bi, he wouldn't have minded mShep flirted with him. Or Tali would be interested in a fShep too, not only for friendship. 

The problem is that Shepard couldn't show interest in them in ME2, not the other way around.

Perhaps Garrus wouldn't mine if MShep flirted with him if MShep could flirt with him.

This.

[Jademoon121]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

It doesn't say anything about his orientation in reference to turians.  It also makes no sense that he'd go for a human female, but he did it b/c of personality only....why couldn't the same happen with a ManShep?

He didn't say it was personality only, though. He could be immensely turned on by her feminine waist.

Again, I'm still holding out hope that the game's art team has their own ideas on female turians. But even using those designs as guides, there are certain female similarities. For one, the DH females are more slender than males, they also have rounder faceplates. These could be considered feminine characteristics.

Generally, women are softer than men bodywise. They're more curved and their features aren't as severe, plus their voices are more delicate, so to speak. Lady turians probably have less pronounced face plates and wider hips than the sharp faces and topheavy forms of male turians.

[Placeholder1]

Space Toaster wrote...

I feel like they probably won't make previous squad mates available again for romance.

Hopefully this turns out be the case I'm fine with same sex romances being added for those interested but so long as it involves character(s) new to the series not retconning characters from previous games and maybe some sort of indication that certain diaglogue options will lead into a romance.

[Elite Midget]

Everyone is Bi.

Explanation? A Wizard did it.

I approve.

[HopHazzard]

-Skorpious- wrote...

I anticipated this. It just feels...wrong. From a personalitiy standpoint I mean -

"Sorry Shepard, you were the wrong sex last game(s), but I love you now!", seems cheap to me. At least Anders had the benefit of being a non-romancable character, so his sexual preferences were still in the air; but the ME/ME2 crew are established characters with established personalities. 

Like I said, I would be ok if one or two characters are bisexual, but not if EVERYONE is bisexual.

Except it's not a matter of "Sorry, you were the wrong sex in the game(s)". Shep never actually has the opportunity to broach the topic of romance with same sex characters. So any one of them could just as easily respond with " I had no idea you were interested. Why didn't you say so in the the previous game(s)?"

[Mr.House]

Placeholder1 wrote...

Space Toaster wrote...

I feel like they probably won't make previous squad mates available again for romance.

Hopefully this turns out be the case I'm fine with same sex romances being added for those interested but so long as it involves character(s) new to the series not retconning characters from previous games and maybe some sort of indication that certain diaglogue options will lead into a romance.

There is no retconning since the characters never told you they where straight and since you where never able to flirt with them if your the same gender, you don't know.

[Clonedzero]

god i really hope they dont have garrus be bi. that would be so illogical and dumb. him wanting to be with femshepard is dumb enough. he's completely and utterly alien. it makes zero sense.

he's got that perfect bromance with maleshepard, no need to force it. which if they did turn garrus bi it'd feel really forced, moreso than any other character.

[Siansonea]

Space Toaster wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
I just think its wierd if Thane, a deeply religious man who was married and has a child, suddenly decides he loves men

His religion probably has no views regarding homosexuality.
There are plenty of bisexual and closeted gay men with wives and children.

Not to mention, Thane isn't a man at all, he's a male drell. Whatever that means to drell. We know he uses masculine pronouns, had a "wife" and "son", and that's it. We don't even know what a female drell looks like, what drell ideas of gender are like, what drell ideas about human appearance are like, etc.

Chances are, most of the universe sees humans as very asari-like, since they have seen asari for thousands of years and humans for only a few decades. Humans and asari look more like each other than any other two species. Just look at the turians, salarians, batarians, hanar, drell, volus, elcor, and even the vorcha. Do any of them look as much like each other as humans and asari? Chances are, most species probably think humans are rather feminine in general, since they are so soft and supple and similar to asari in so many ways. Five-fingered hands? SO asari. And female humans especially look like asari, but the males aren't really all that different. They don't have the fat deposits in the chest area, they tend to be a bit thicker in the limbs, and some have patches of—hair?—on their faces. But the females have patches of hair on their faces too, above the eyes. Human skin is in shades of pinks and browns, and human's head hair is rather unique as well. Humans really are like pink/brown asari with hair instead of tentacles. From the standpoint of an alien, that is.

[Bolboreta]

jlb524 wrote...

Bolboreta wrote...

Then they should have done it in ME2, don't you think that? Because if he were bi, he wouldn't have minded mShep flirted with him. Or Tali would be interested in a fShep too, not only for friendship. 

The problem is that Shepard couldn't show interest in them in ME2, not the other way around.

Perhaps Garrus wouldn't mine if MShep flirted with him if MShep could flirt with him.

Of course, but why? Why he didn't show interest? He could do it with every single female in the ship. The only thing that makes sense to me is that he didn't show any interest in them because he knew they weren't interested in that. My fShep was able to flirt with bi females, but she couldn't flirt with the other ones, so I assume she knew they weren't into women. I mean, they were in the same ship, it's obvious they talked sometimes. 

I see that a lot of people want them to be bi and I understand that. To me, it makes no sense to change them, that's all.

Modifié par Bolboreta, 15 mai 2011 - 11:58 .

[Mr.House]

Clonedzero wrote...

god i really hope they dont have garrus be bi. that would be so illogical and dumb. him wanting to be with femshepard is dumb enough. he's completely and utterly alien. it makes zero sense.

he's got that perfect bromance with maleshepard, no need to force it. which if they did turn garrus bi it'd feel really forced, moreso than any other character.

Garrus is pansexual, just like Tali. Look the term up

[Mr.House]

Bolboreta wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Bolboreta wrote...

Then they should have done it in ME2, don't you think that? Because if he were bi, he wouldn't have minded mShep flirted with him. Or Tali would be interested in a fShep too, not only for friendship. 

The problem is that Shepard couldn't show interest in them in ME2, not the other way around.

Perhaps Garrus wouldn't mine if MShep flirted with him if MShep could flirt with him.

Of course, but why? Why he didn't show interest? He could do it with every single female in the ship. The only thing that makes sense to me is that he didn't show any interest in them because he knew they weren't interested in that. My fShep was able to flirt with bi females, but she couldn't flirt with the other ones, so I assume she knew they weren't into women. I mean, they were in the same ship, it's obvious they talked sometimes. 

I see that a lot of people want them to be bi and I understand that. To me, it makes no sense to change them, that's all.

If you don't flirt with him, he never shows intrest in the first place.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 mai 2011 - 12:01 .

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Dudes, bros, Garrus mentioned he banged a chick once. That means he's totally straight, always has been straight, and will never stray from his awesome, manly straightness and desire to nail chicks.

[Clonedzero]

Mr.House wrote...

None of the LIs ever said they where straight, thus there is no rewriting. Just because one gender could not romance them in one game means nothing at all.

thats really lazy and dumb logic. none of them said they had a jetpack fused to their back under their skin so they can now fly.

kaidan never mentioned it, but he's the prince of an asian kingdom that has access to giant robots that shoot lasers out their mouths, he never said he wasnt so its ok!

seriously, this sort of logic only leads to BAD writing.