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[Ryzaki]

That said Garrus being bi...eh. As long as Shep has to initate it with the most obvious come on ever and if I ignore that icon me and Garrus can brofist I'll be happy.

Sadly I couldn't do that with Tali.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 16 mai 2011 - 12:31 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

RE: Jack. She's the only one in-game who specifically stated she's not into women, isn't she? I find it odd that so many people are singling her out to be an S/S option.

[jlb524]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

RE: Jack. She's the only one in-game who specifically stated she's not into women, isn't she? I find it odd that so many people are singling her out to be an S/S option.

Fact:  Jack has had sex with women.

Fact:  She tells Shepard she's not into the "girls club".

Make of that what you will.

[Clonedzero]

its kinda depressing that you dont care about the quality of the writing as long as you get s/s romances.

im all for s/s romances. i just want them to make sense in context with the story, and in context with the established characters backrounds.

garrus makes no sense to be bi, theres no openings within his backstory that'd work to slpi in some bi backstory.

kaidan however would make alot more sense. not being with that girl he liked in BAaT because he was confused is a perfect opening for an explaination on why he's bi.

i just want it to be well written, you should to. i mean you shouldnt be jumping at "everyones bi! no one said they were only straight!" i dont think ive ever just said 'Im straight" to anyone in my life, why? because randomly announcing your orientation is kinda weird lol

[Elite Midget]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

RE: Jack. She's the only one in-game who specifically stated she's not into women, isn't she? I find it odd that so many people are singling her out to be an S/S option.

She also mentioned that she had slept with women as well. Really can't tell what she's into.

[Mr.House]

Clonedzero wrote...

its kinda depressing that you dont care about the quality of the writing as long as you get s/s romances.

im all for s/s romances. i just want them to make sense in context with the story, and in context with the established characters backrounds.

garrus makes no sense to be bi, theres no openings within his backstory that'd work to slpi in some bi backstory.

kaidan however would make alot more sense. not being with that girl he liked in BAaT because he was confused is a perfect opening for an explaination on why he's bi.

i just want it to be well written, you should to. i mean you shouldnt be jumping at "everyones bi! no one said they were only straight!" i dont think ive ever just said 'Im straight" to anyone in my life, why? because randomly announcing your orientation is kinda weird lol

The quality of the DA2 LI where not hurt and they where all bi, so I don't see any issues.

[ThatDancingTurian]

jlb524 wrote...

Fact:  Jack has had sex with women.

Fact:  She tells Shepard she's not into the "girls club".

Make of that what you will.

Some gay men have had sex with women before realizing they're not attracted to them, haven't they? It just seems to me like she'd be the least likely since she's the only person in the whole game who has outright said she's not into that.

[Augoeides]

/releases the brightly coloured balloons.

Wow, the fluro balloons looked a lot less gay in the shop....

ANYWAY!

This is a happy day and I'd like to think, in part, some of the credit for this achievement should go to the supporters of this wonderful movement! Those regulars and every person who even uttered they were in support deserve a big hand!

[Paraxial]

Nyoka wrote...
So an heterosexual man talks with a woman and she doesn't feel attracted to him, and the heterosexual man could safely assume she is either a lesbian or asexual.

Yes, he could safely assume either of those things or that she isn't attracted to him but is straight.

What are we arguing about?

[Jademoon121]

Kaiden was planned to be a LI for both Sheps in ME1, so there's a possibility.

Garrus was fanservice at first, but if you can make him go over evolutionary and biological boundaries across lightyears of space/time, I don't see why jumping borders is any worse.

Nothing about James yet 'sides him being new to outerspace and recently a member of the alliance. Maybe something there.

[Mr.House]

I won't be surprise if it's Ash, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali who are made bi.

[Siansonea]

Clonedzero wrote...

its kinda depressing that you dont care about the quality of the writing as long as you get s/s romances.

im all for s/s romances. i just want them to make sense in context with the story, and in context with the established characters backrounds.

garrus makes no sense to be bi, theres no openings within his backstory that'd work to slpi in some bi backstory.

kaidan however would make alot more sense. not being with that girl he liked in BAaT because he was confused is a perfect opening for an explaination on why he's bi.

i just want it to be well written, you should to. i mean you shouldnt be jumping at "everyones bi! no one said they were only straight!" i dont think ive ever just said 'Im straight" to anyone in my life, why? because randomly announcing your orientation is kinda weird lol

I'm very much Pro-Good Writing. I think they could make a number of s/s scenarios work.

[Clonedzero]

Mr.House wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

its kinda depressing that you dont care about the quality of the writing as long as you get s/s romances.

im all for s/s romances. i just want them to make sense in context with the story, and in context with the established characters backrounds.

garrus makes no sense to be bi, theres no openings within his backstory that'd work to slpi in some bi backstory.

kaidan however would make alot more sense. not being with that girl he liked in BAaT because he was confused is a perfect opening for an explaination on why he's bi.

i just want it to be well written, you should to. i mean you shouldnt be jumping at "everyones bi! no one said they were only straight!" i dont think ive ever just said 'Im straight" to anyone in my life, why? because randomly announcing your orientation is kinda weird lol

The quality of the DA2 LI where not hurt and they where all bi, so I don't see any issues.

because they were all new characters. are you purposely missing my point?

[Ryzaki]

Mr.House wrote...

I won't be surprise if it's Ash, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali who are made bi.

I'd prefer Miranda over Ash but yeah with that tweak I'd be fine with it.

[Mr.House]

[quote]Clonedzero wrote...
The quality of the DA2 LI where not hurt and they where all bi, so I don't see any issues.

[/quote]because they were all new characters. are you purposely missing my point?
[/quote]
Anders, Merrill and Izzy where not new characters.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Some gay men have had sex with women before realizing they're not attracted to them, haven't they? It just seems to me like she'd be the least likely since she's the only person in the whole game who has outright said she's not into that.

Another jump to conclusions there.

It seems pretty obvious to me that what Jack meant by her "girls club" comment was that she wasn't interested in just sitting and chatting/gossiping/hanging out/girly slumber parties and such things that a club of girls might do.

The context doesn't imply sex at all.

[Mr.House]

Ryzaki wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

I won't be surprise if it's Ash, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali who are made bi.

I'd prefer Miranda over Ash but yeah with that tweak I'd be fine with it.

I rather have Miri be bi too, but since Ash and Kaidan where going to be bi but it was cut and the voiced files are still in ME1+2, it's more easy to implant.

Modifié par Mr.House, 16 mai 2011 - 12:42 .

[Paraxial]

I'm going to reply this way to prevent any cluster****s from happening.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Sexual development has alot more than just sexual prerferences involved. A lot more. Body image, gender identity, and a whole lot of other stuff is involved with that. So yes I find that to play a large view in someone's life. But not due to just sexual preferences.

I could argue that those things are greatly impacted by your sexual orientation, but you and I arguing about how we feel about cognitive development isn't really pusing the topic along. So i'm going to drop it here and agree to disagree.

Ryzaki wrote...And that's exactly how I felt all the romanes were to being with in ME especially. That's rather subjective. I don't believe that to be the case at all with s/s romances or the romances period in the DA games. The ME games however to me felt like pandering and felt out of place.

I agree. The original Mass Effect romances I liked. I felt that they were natural and had a great place in the story. The Mass Effect 2 romances, while well written for the most part, felt a bit unnecessary in relation to the narrative.

Modifié par Bible Doctor, 16 mai 2011 - 12:42 .

[Siansonea]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Fact:  Jack has had sex with women.

Fact:  She tells Shepard she's not into the "girls club".

Make of that what you will.

Some gay men have had sex with women before realizing they're not attracted to them, haven't they? It just seems to me like she'd be the least likely since she's the only person in the whole game who has outright said she's not into that.

There are a number of ways Jack's "girl's club" comment can be interpreted. She may have seen Female Shepard and Miranda as the equivalent of the pretty, popular girls she hates. Let's face it, Jack clearly has issues with other women, namely attractive women in authority like Miranda. FemShep might just be a little too close to that sensitive area for Jack, maybe Miranda and FemShep remind her too much of the girl who betrayed her after she first escaped from Pragia. Maybe Jack was in love with that girl. We don't really know all the facts.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Another jump to conclusions there.

It seems pretty obvious to me that what Jack meant by her "girls club" comment was that she wasn't interested in just sitting and chatting/gossiping/hanging out/girly slumber parties and such things that a club of girls might do.

The context doesn't imply sex at all.

I hadn't thought of it that way but it could be that. Maybe it's just the fact that she said that at the moment ManShep would initiate a romance that led me to assume it was sexual.

Honestly if I had to pick one I'd call Tali the most likely for female S/S. She just seems so enamored with Shepard regardless of gender, I could easily see her falling for FemShep if she'd been able to make a move.

[Ryzaki]

Bible Doctor wrote...
The original Mass Effect romances I liked. I felt that they were natural and had a great place in the story. The Mass Effect 2 romances, while well written for the most part, felt a bit unnecessary in relation to the narrative.

Ugh the original ME romances I hated. They were forced down my throat and I had to use a Nuke to end the Ashley romance. That didn't feel natural that felt ridculously forced. I'm being polite and all of a sudden she's calling me skipper? What is this? And Ash hovering around my Shepard's shoulder got really annoying really fast.

And then I got the bug where I said "NO" renegade style to Liara and she kept talking to Shepard like he was romancing her.

I actually felt harassed in ME1. After a while I stopped talking to everyone but Kaidan, Garrus and Tali.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 16 mai 2011 - 12:44 .

[Clonedzero]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Kaiden was planned to be a LI for both Sheps in ME1, so there's a possibility.

Garrus was fanservice at first, but if you can make him go over evolutionary and biological boundaries across lightyears of space/time, I don't see why jumping borders is any worse.

Nothing about James yet 'sides him being new to outerspace and recently a member of the alliance. Maybe something there.

well the thing about garrus which has me worried is because they put alot of effort into making maleshepard and garrus appear to be like best friends, war buddies. theres ZERO sexual tension, and again garrus is has guy talk with you and tells you about a time he had sex with a turian chick.

for him to suddenly become bi, it'd be SUPER forced and wouldnt fit withint he context of the other games and Msheps and garrus' brotherly friendship.

though i do agree, you could make kaidan bi fairly easily, as ive said a couple times he has a perfect opening to explain it in his backstory and in ME1 he's just being a professional and male shepard and kaidan dont have that big brotherly friendship garrus and shep does.