alienatedflea; I don't understand why you keep posting on here?
It's obvious that their point is so perfectly defined and impossible to pose any rebuttals, that any argument would easily be countered by their ingenious logic. In other words there’s no argument here.
The proponents of the pro-Gay Shepard and/or content in the game have put their argument in the same manner as saying “The sky is a shade of Blue”. You can’t ague that, well you can, but you end up making yourself look like an idiot.
All of the points of contention with the idea have been put forward; all of them have been rebuffed. Therefore discussion has broken down. Anything further and you’d be offending people’s agenda.
Points of contention put forth by those arguing against gay content:
-Male Shepard was written by the canon as a straight male; you play him in the 3rd person. In other words you are playing another author’s character and guiding it through the world and setting. Unlike Dragon Age Origins he isn’t a 1st person character that you create and give what ever attribute you want, in other words it’s their persona, not yours.
----This was already rebuffed by multiple counter arguments, including Female Shepard being able to woo Liara, Kelly, and other characters. This is Bioware’s fault for wanting to appease the male demographic by allowing lesbian interaction. This is one of several counter arguments.
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[EDIT] Additionally, the sexuality of Male Shepard remains ambigous. Therefore stating that Male Shepard was ment to be straight can be rebuffed by the proponents of Gay content. Again like the above point of contention, it is Bioware's fault for not fully defining the character. Which is pointless. The game gives you enough clues to know that Shepard is straight.
-It would break continuity and open up more romances.
---This was already rebuffed by multiple counter arguments. Among those the fact that the game itself barely follows its own continuity. If the game itself doesn’t follow continuity (much less the actual characters in it like Ashley) it opens up the loop hole exploited by proponents of the gay content in ME.
Put simply; there is no reason to argue
against the inclusion of gay content. Any point of contention you may come up with will easily be rebuffed.
Therefore the sole purpose of this thread is for a show of hands of who wants gay content in ME. 60+ pages full of arguments do not show that one way or the other. A lot of those pages are the same people bickering back and forth anyhow.
What I’d like to see are the proponents
for gay content in ME give reasons as to why it might not be included. And/or reasons why Bioware might not want to include it.
My opinion?
I’ve already mentioned that LGBT content was included in the game. Perhaps not equally represented, but there is already:
--The Asari that is married to another Asari in Illium. You help her out and even support her decision to remain pureblood (in other words a female Asari marrying another). The entire Asari race as a whole is supposed to in a way satisfy the LGBT demographic (at least that’s the idea I got).
Is that not enough for you guys?
-Mordin having an open mind. This supports the liberal idea of seeing people for whom they are and not based on their gender. The same goes for Kelly being Bi, she even mentions it in layman terms.
--FemShep having lesbian options wasn’t targeted at the LGBT demographic (at least so far from what I’ve concluded). It was mostly fan service to the targeted male demographic of the game.
--Bioware kept or realigned Male Shepard to be straight as their writer’s prerogative. Just like in real life not everyone is gay, or straight, or tolerant. By keeping Shepard straight, they reach the target demographic which seems (based on all the eye candy and promo pictures I’ve seen) to be the males ages 19 to 35. In fact I’m further lead to believe in ME2 they further wanted to appease this demographic by making the game a lot more like a shooter/FPS as opposed to a free-form RPG. I see nothing so far in this game to make it targeted toward the female gaming demographic much less the LGBT community.
I support what the writer wishes to do. If the writer wants a character to be straight, I support his/her decision. If they want the character to be gay, again I support their decision. I do not support interest group strong arming or lobbying to the point where creative freedom is hindered. Being a California native we’ve had enough of that already day in and day out. Whether at work, at school, I can’t help but notice more and more of my peers share the same thought I do, “we’re sick of it already”.
Modifié par Fanbus, 18 août 2010 - 11:41 .
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Of course I don't care about them wanting to schtupp bug-eyed freaks like Tali, but it seems awfully odd to me that Shepard, whose sexual proclivities went from human/asari only in ME1, then expanded to human/asari/turian/quarian/drell in ME2, could not believably expand to same-sex human in ME3. After all that experimentation with aliens, a same-sex human is 'too weird'? Really?
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thanks and have a great day, kind sir!
