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[Giggles_Manically]

Because she wanted to keep Alistair alive as well.

[Sarah1281]

So a slim hope was better than none?

[IoCaster]

It's pretty much my preferred ending except for my 'canon' HN. I've saved that character for DA2 just in case his story arc gets carried forward.

[Giggles_Manically]

I really doubt the Wardens story will continue, but you never know. Since the sequel will be using the same engine as DA and Awakening we may just yet see our Wardens continue.

[LadyJaneGrey]

Adored the ultimate sacrifice ending for my dwarven commoner.  Drem:

• kept her people safe from the Blight
• left her family well-positioned within dwarven society
• became a Paragon, an example to show a casteless' worth
• left Ferelden with a potentially good monarch
• helped those she considered friends and now has a namesake

[Giggles_Manically]

Vote on the polls I made, links in sig.

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Killing the Archdemon in Denerim is to save the people in Denerim and Fereldon. You could fail and the thousands of Grey Wardens in Anderfels, Orlais, etc will eventually defeat the Archdemon. It took what 96 years to defeat the first Blight. This one would be the only Blight in which where it had formed it would also be defeated.



The DR increases the chance of saving your life and Fereldon's. Morrigan's selling pitch is your life and a chance to preserve an Old God, but with her doing the DR the success rate of ending the Blight without losing Fereldon goes up by about 1000%. The cost however is tbd. In the long term yes it may be a terrible terrible choice, or a great choice, but the short term it has only positives. A living hero is much more important than a dead one. If you got the Hero of Fereldon living and breathing that does wonders for morale, politics, Grey Warden support, darkspawn clean up, etc.

[Swoo]

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...
 A living hero is much more important than a dead one. If you got the Hero of Fereldon living and breathing that does wonders for morale, politics, Grey Warden support, darkspawn clean up, etc.

That's a great point. If you spare Loghain and do the Dark Ritual, doesn't he end up becoming a major 'face' of the Wardens that really pumps up their recruiting? The Hero of River Dane and proof that no man can fall too far to redeem himself in the Grey, potent stuff. I'd sign up, If I had not..y'know..already signed up.

[Giggles_Manically]

Hell yah put.. more Wardens in the thing.. more Wardens go in..



Drunk Shep FTW.

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

I'd be alright with the US ending was it not for the fact that it doesn't only kill you but destroys your soul and existence entirely. I suppose sacrificing that out of fear sounds reasonable on the paper, but actually doing it...

I will admit that I'm selfish to a degree, and subsequently, I simply cannot play a character who isn't the same thing. I could never my sacrifice own soul - if we pretend that the existence of such a thing is given - and I wouldn't make anyone else do that, be it Alistair, Riordan or my characters. Especially not because of some imaginary worst case scenario. I don't think that's cowardice.

Yeah that is a big part of why I haven't done the US ending since my first playthrough or let anyone do it other than Loghain which was only once. My first playthrough I didn't really no much about lore, or pay attention to the whole soul geting crushed. From my moral standard it would be hard for me to even sentence Howe to that fate even he deserves to face the Maker for his actions.

[Costin_Razvan]

One thing about the US ending...does anyone else think Anora does a far better job at the funeral then Alistair?

[Giggles_Manically]

Never heard Anora's oratation before. Alistair's cheesed me off, with my mage he dumped "I thought we were going to be toghther forever" twerp.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

One thing about the US ending...does anyone else think Anora does a far better job at the funeral then Alistair?

Yeah, it was remarkable how she managed to sound sadder even though she cares less.

[Costin_Razvan]

Does she now? I would be certain she cared a great deal if you stooped Loghain from killing himself.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Does she now? I would be certain she cared a great deal if you stooped Loghain from killing himself.

Sorry, by 'cares less' I didn't mean 'doesn't care at all' but rather 'cares less than Alistair often does.' And since you can be BFF's or romantically involved that's more invested than Anora has time to get.

[SusanStoHelit]

Well, I've done the US ending just once. And that will be the only time I do it - my warden did it in large part because she had a 'thing' about blood magic and refused to have anything to do with it. The ending had some pathos, but I felt that it was the 'loser' ending. Rather than take a risk, you'll just die, suicide, give up like some big loser and leave the future and all its problems to others to clean up. In short, I didn't like it.

That said, I just did the Warden-Commander ending yesterday - and I truly hated it. I hated it so much, it felt so wrong, that I went all the way back to Redcliffe and did the DR (or had Alistair do it since my character was female). And she wasn't romancing Alistair, and wasn't a HNF. Zevran was her man, but watching Alistair die like that - so wrong.

I'm planning to try the Loghain one on a different character, maybe that'll be different, who knows?

I agree with about everything Swoo said about the DR and his reasons for taking it. In fact, I'd go further, since in all my runs, regardless of origin, all of my characters have either considered the Chantry and it's claims dubious - or simply downright hated it and believed it to be nothing but a bed of lies, hatred, prejudice, and oppression. If they say something is bad or dangerous - I'm inclined to disbelieve them. I may even go out and do it, just because anything they think is bad is probably good. 'The enemy of my enemy...' For this reason, I'm inclined to think that the OGB is more likely to be either 'good' or 'neutral' than 'bad'.

As a former scholar of comparative religion, just reading the Chantry's professed beliefs and comparing them to what we observe in the world of Thedas gives me utter chills, the creeps entirely. Shades of religious zealotry, crusades, jihads, and genocide dressed up in cloth of politics, power, and 'good works'.

So, whether my wardens trust Morrigan or not is moot (although most of them do). None of them trust the Chantry - and none of them like the Maker or want anything to do with him. Furthermore, my wardens in general want to end all blights - not just this one. So just killing this archdemon isn't enough. We'd risk almost anything to have even a slim chance of ending all blight, forever. And the OGB might just bring that about, one way or another.

[Sarah1281]

Surely if Morrigan's plans were so horrible she wouldn't have even admitted to HAVING plans or else would have made something up instead of being all suspicious and silent.

[SusanStoHelit]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Surely if Morrigan's plans were so horrible she wouldn't have even admitted to HAVING plans or else would have made something up instead of being all suspicious and silent.

Indeed, Sarah. She outright admits there'll be a baby, and about the Old God soul, etc etc. She could have just said: have sex with me to power a ritual (straight sex magic) and no-one needs to die.

It seems to me, regardless of her personal agenda, that she was being honest at a time when it was neither necessary for her to be so, nor even politic. Despite her assertion that she is surprised that I was honest with Alistair, that honesty wouldn't have been her choice, she is honest with me.