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[The Elite Elite]

this isnt my name wrote...

The geth havent persued the quarians, or anyone, they keep to themselves, also your last point fails, yes we reprogramm them, yes reapers can reverse it, but they can probobally reverse this aswell, or just indoctrinate him, either way the result would be the same, no justification for the experiments, and the geth arent attacking. By your logic its fine for lets say the US thinks the russians will start a war again, so they just kidnap and torture people, would it be justified ? No, the war isnt there, the only certainty is innocents will suffer needlessly.

Have the Russians cut off all contact with outside nations and killed any representatives those nations sent to them to try and establish communications? No, but that's what the Geth have done. All this time of the Geth staying in their corner of the galaxy could very well have just been them building up and preparing for an all out attack. We have no way to know. As for the reapers, maybe they could reverse this or indoctrinate David. Again, we have no way to know. Best to try and have as many options as possible. If the reprograming at the Heretic station fails, we also have Project Overlord to fall back on.

[NICKjnp]

the story can be summed up into this... the guy wants earplugs.

[Jorina Leto]

I freed David. And I will destroy Cerberus and kill TIM.

Modifié par Jorina Leto, 16 juin 2010 - 12:57 .

[leeboi2]

Left him hooked up, let's face it, he's already ****ed, may aswell leave him, lest his sacrifice be in vain.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I know its a game and all, but it's a pretty sad situation. I got pissed at TIM and that guy for using his brother. :/ I freed him, although didn't get to use that paragon interrupt. It was a pretty good DLC tbh.



-Polite

[this isnt my name]

The Elite Elite wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

The geth havent persued the quarians, or anyone, they keep to themselves, also your last point fails, yes we reprogramm them, yes reapers can reverse it, but they can probobally reverse this aswell, or just indoctrinate him, either way the result would be the same, no justification for the experiments, and the geth arent attacking. By your logic its fine for lets say the US thinks the russians will start a war again, so they just kidnap and torture people, would it be justified ? No, the war isnt there, the only certainty is innocents will suffer needlessly.

Have the Russians cut off all contact with outside nations and killed any representatives those nations sent to them to try and establish communications? No, but that's what the Geth have done. All this time of the Geth staying in their corner of the galaxy could very well have just been them building up and preparing for an all out attack. We have no way to know. As for the reapers, maybe they could reverse this or indoctrinate David. Again, we have no way to know. Best to try and have as many options as possible. If the reprograming at the Heretic station fails, we also have Project Overlord to fall back on.

Which is why legion has a gaping hole in his chest, shot on site. and its pretty much agreed geth are no longer a threat, sorry but there is no justification.

[xI extremist Ix]

With the massive cliffs was anybody reminded of the first Halo game?



The whole scenery in the back ground was sweet, the rivers, the three giant flying animals in the distance. The rings around the planet and the two moons made the feeling that much more dramatic.

[C9316]

leeboi2 wrote...

Left him hooked up, let's face it, he's already ****ed, may aswell leave him, lest his sacrifice be in vain.

*cast leeboi2 to the deepest pit of hell*

[Arijharn]

You guys do realise that TIM wasn't privy to the gory details of the idea, just the broad outlines? Perhaps TIM should start to exercise more oversight on his cells, but then again that might impede useful results.



Personally I freed him, but I would strongly consider ways to make it so David wasn't in some form of an autistic christ-like figure... if only because it might be a good way to find alternatives to communicating with the Geth.

[The Elite Elite]

this isnt my name wrote...

Which is why legion has a gaping hole in his chest, shot on site. and its pretty much agreed geth are no longer a threat, sorry but there is no justification.

Agreed by whom? The same people who say "Ah yes, 'Reapers.' The race of machines that wiped at all life in the galaxy. We have dismissed that claim."? Just because they haven't been a big threat the two years between your death and being revived doesn't mean they won't be one again. And even if they won't be a threat again, they are still a potential tool to use against the Reapers. If we could control them that's just another fighting force to use to defend the galaxy.

[C9316]

The Elite Elite wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

Which is why legion has a gaping hole in his chest, shot on site. and its pretty much agreed geth are no longer a threat, sorry but there is no justification.

Agreed by whom? The same people who say "Ah yes, 'Reapers.' The race of machines that wiped at all life in the galaxy. We have dismissed that claim."? Just because they haven't been a big threat the two years between your death and being revived doesn't mean they won't be one again. And even if they won't be a threat again, they are still a potential tool to use against the Reapers. If we could control them that's just another fighting force to use to defend the galaxy.

Why do you continue calling them "tools"? Why not allies? They already oppose the reapers so what would be the point of throwing youself into a war that would'nt end well for humans just to try to get them to fight a foe who they already are against in the first place? 

[Zaydin]

I freed David. I felt sorry for him, seeing him strung up like that. He's quite obviously terrified about what's going on. And I also loved that the paragon interrupt for that choice has Shepard pistol whipping Gavin and threatening to shoot him if he goes after David, while sounding legitimately disgusted and anger at him. Also part of my standard operating procedure when dealing with Cerberus; if it hurts them, good.

[Yakko77]

So many Geth and VI mechs! This DLC was almost custom made for my engineer and I still came in heavy with tech specialist (Garrus/Tali/Legion thus far). It was almost unfair.... almost! Of course I saved David.



I'm playing a renegade infiltrator through right now and I must admit I'm curious about going with the renegade choice just to be in character but it'll be rough.

[jwalker]

UpDownLeftRight wrote...

It seems that a lot of players let him go.

I did too. But it took me like 15 minutes to decide...

[The Elite Elite]

C9316 wrote...
Why do you continue calling them "tools"? Why not allies? They already oppose the reapers so what would be the point of throwing youself into a war that would'nt end well for humans just to try to get them to fight a foe who they already are against in the first place? 

Again, as I said earlier, depending on how far into the main story you are at, at this point you might not even know that there are factions within the Geth. As far as you know they are all servants of the Reapers. And again, even if you have Legion at this point, you must still take it at its word that it is telling you the truth about the Geth. It alreadys admits to sending out a lie just to see organics' reactions, Legion too could be another ploy to learn about organics. And this is not throwing ourselves into a war with the Geth, but rather avoiding it. We need everything we can get to fight the Reapers, and having an army of Geth under our control would be a big help.

[Computer_God91]

The Elite Elite wrote...

C9316 wrote...
Why do you continue calling them "tools"? Why not allies? They already oppose the reapers so what would be the point of throwing youself into a war that would'nt end well for humans just to try to get them to fight a foe who they already are against in the first place? 

Again, as I said earlier, depending on how far into the main story you are at, at this point you might not even know that there are factions within the Geth. As far as you know they are all servants of the Reapers. And again, even if you have Legion at this point, you must still take it at its word that it is telling you the truth about the Geth. It alreadys admits to sending out a lie just to see organics' reactions, Legion too could be another ploy to learn about organics. And this is not throwing ourselves into a war with the Geth, but rather avoiding it. We need everything we can get to fight the Reapers, and having an army of Geth under our control would be a big help.

Look at you two argue. Hello the Geth (Legion) already stated that working together furthers mutual goals that meaning because it is like every other Geth (minus the "heretics") the Geth are already on your side and brutally torturing that guy is pointless. By going into that research your pretty much throwing yourself into a war with the Geth because you're trying to forcibly control them and if they find out your screwed. What benefit would Legion gain by lying about wanting to help and by lying about the Geth factions? and if it were lying then why would you go to a station that has heretics and convert/destroy them? All that for a joke? I think not, it pretty much proved its not lying and your mistrust of it is just plain stupid. You're repeating yourself anyway find another reason why it shouldn't be trusted. and you forgot that its obsessed with you also showing that it would gain nothing from lying to you.

[Arijharn]

Computer_God91 wrote...

The Elite Elite wrote...

C9316 wrote...
Why do you continue calling them "tools"? Why not allies? They already oppose the reapers so what would be the point of throwing youself into a war that would'nt end well for humans just to try to get them to fight a foe who they already are against in the first place? 

Again, as I said earlier, depending on how far into the main story you are at, at this point you might not even know that there are factions within the Geth. As far as you know they are all servants of the Reapers. And again, even if you have Legion at this point, you must still take it at its word that it is telling you the truth about the Geth. It alreadys admits to sending out a lie just to see organics' reactions, Legion too could be another ploy to learn about organics. And this is not throwing ourselves into a war with the Geth, but rather avoiding it. We need everything we can get to fight the Reapers, and having an army of Geth under our control would be a big help.

Look at you two argue. Hello the Geth (Legion) already stated that working together furthers mutual goals that meaning because it is like every other Geth (minus the "heretics") the Geth are already on your side and brutally torturing that guy is pointless. By going into that research your pretty much throwing yourself into a war with the Geth because you're trying to forcibly control them and if they find out your screwed. What benefit would Legion gain by lying about wanting to help and by lying about the Geth factions? and if it were lying then why would you go to a station that has heretics and convert/destroy them? All that for a joke? I think not, it pretty much proved its not lying and your mistrust of it is just plain stupid. You're repeating yourself anyway find another reason why it shouldn't be trusted. and you forgot that its obsessed with you also showing that it would gain nothing from lying to you.

What if you didn't have Legion at the time you did Overlord? Besides, who's to say that Legion speaks with the authority of the entire species when he isn't at the time in communication with them. Considering it can take x long to build consensus, even if they can communicate at light speed, it doesn't mean anything if they can't formulate an opinion.

Personally, I'm all for an enduring alliance with the Geth, that doesn't mean that the geth feel the same though, so I can understand people's reservations.

[DaBigDragon]

I freed him with my main guy. That was so messed up. I felt like crying when I saw him strung up like a pinata and crying. Plus the fact that he's autistic made it a million times worse.

Modifié par DaBigDragon, 16 juin 2010 - 02:11 .

[PARAGON87]

It was too sad seeing a savant like that hooked up and tortured. Although it would give more understanding of the geth, it is inane, immoral, and totally insane. David walked free in my case.

[Computer_God91]

Arijharn wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

The Elite Elite wrote...

C9316 wrote...
Why do you continue calling them "tools"? Why not allies? They already oppose the reapers so what would be the point of throwing youself into a war that would'nt end well for humans just to try to get them to fight a foe who they already are against in the first place? 

Again, as I said earlier, depending on how far into the main story you are at, at this point you might not even know that there are factions within the Geth. As far as you know they are all servants of the Reapers. And again, even if you have Legion at this point, you must still take it at its word that it is telling you the truth about the Geth. It alreadys admits to sending out a lie just to see organics' reactions, Legion too could be another ploy to learn about organics. And this is not throwing ourselves into a war with the Geth, but rather avoiding it. We need everything we can get to fight the Reapers, and having an army of Geth under our control would be a big help.

Look at you two argue. Hello the Geth (Legion) already stated that working together furthers mutual goals that meaning because it is like every other Geth (minus the "heretics") the Geth are already on your side and brutally torturing that guy is pointless. By going into that research your pretty much throwing yourself into a war with the Geth because you're trying to forcibly control them and if they find out your screwed. What benefit would Legion gain by lying about wanting to help and by lying about the Geth factions? and if it were lying then why would you go to a station that has heretics and convert/destroy them? All that for a joke? I think not, it pretty much proved its not lying and your mistrust of it is just plain stupid. You're repeating yourself anyway find another reason why it shouldn't be trusted. and you forgot that its obsessed with you also showing that it would gain nothing from lying to you.

What if you didn't have Legion at the time you did Overlord? Besides, who's to say that Legion speaks with the authority of the entire species when he isn't at the time in communication with them. Considering it can take x long to build consensus, even if they can communicate at light speed, it doesn't mean anything if they can't formulate an opinion.

Personally, I'm all for an enduring alliance with the Geth, that doesn't mean that the geth feel the same though, so I can understand people's reservations.

I'm just talking short term here. I would love for a Geth alliance permanently but right now I'm in the mind set of ally to fight a common foe worry about everything else later because if we don't then nobody lives and the cycle starts again.

[Fizzeler]

I left him (playing a complete Renegade Shep), but like my Collector Base decision I think the data retrieved from David would be to useful to help ally the Geth against the Reapers

[Arijharn]

I wonder, considering the amount of variables imported from ME2 into ME3 as is, it seems like a true herculean, almost impossible task to also import the variables from DLC's into the ME3 game as well.



Of course, I suppose they'd have to have the option, because otherwise what's the point?

[Zack56]

I did both on the same file (saved before final desision) and reguardless which way I went, it was just so ****en messed up. I don't even know the last time I felt so torn in a videogame. I mean come on!? it was his brother for peat's sake! It may have taken some time but Bioware definatly delivered in Overlord and I can't wait for what's next.

[huntrrz]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

I let him go, keeping him the way he was just seemed... inhuman.
The Illusive Man's message at the end pissed me off though. He was more concerned with the data and how freeing David "...set us back several years." Well, **** you too, TIM.

Yep!  My thought was almost exactly the same - "I DON'T ****ING CARE."

(Hey, you guys who asked - THIS IS WHY WE BLOW UP THE COLLECTOR BASE.)

[fanman72]

Freed him



And the Geth aren't a serious threat (if you recruited Legion you will find out why), unless you're a Quarian