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[Kalcalan]

Wyndham711 wrote...

Kalcalan wrote...

Why another standalone DLC? There is no replayability whatsoever with standalone DLCs...

This kind of story couldn't be told if it wasn't standalone. I personally greatly enjoy all the possibilities that standalone content offers. Obsessing with the PC warden leads to unnecessary restrictions.

To each his own I guess. DAO had some great storytelling without relying on standalone content so I don't think your point is particularly convincing.

As far as "obsessing" with the PC, I don't see what's wrong with that. Nor do I believe that it forces unecessary restrictions. Restrictions actually allow for more creativity as you can't create without restrictions (in a way existing limitations enable people to be creative by finding ingenious ways to surmount these limitations). By the way there are restrictions linked to a standalone DLC focused on a story we already know and one that has already been told (Leliana's past is the main subject of the discussions the PC can have with her).

Darkspawn Chronicles got rid of the Warden PC thus proving that the PC was not needed for the Blight to be fought. That is a major mistake IMO. There can be no epic without a hero and if the PC is not the hero I don't see the point in playing the game. Besides, Alistair is defined as an unwilling leader because the PC has to step in and take charge (otherwise the PC would end up being Alistair's sidekick and Alistair would invariably be the Warden King of Ferelden).

I like Leliana but I'd have preferred a DLC that would have fitted into the DAO main storyline. Standalone DLCs are like kleenex. You use them and then get rid of them. As such they are probably better fitted for more casual players who are happy with playing through the game once (or maybe twice) and then move on to other games. Most of the dedicated DAO fans have probably played through Origins more than 10 times now and they probably plan on going for even more runs. How many runs of a standalone DLC can you expect to play? 2 or 3 if there are mutually exclusive choices to be made? Or if you are addicted to achievements?

Playing a 90 minute standalone DLC that may offer an interesting glimpse into a character's past may not be such a bad thing but it sure won't improve the main game (and let's be frank, there is definitely room for a lot of extra content in the main story).

I just hope that the "unique reward that transfers into your Awakening and Origins
campaign" is not Marjolaine's ******.

Modifié par Kalcalan, 18 juin 2010 - 10:31 .

[Kwanzaabot]

Kalcalan wrote...
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My thoughts exactly. Darkspawn Chronicles was fun, but I'm not likely to play it that often, if ever again.

Standalone DLC is basically shovelware. It might be interesting or even fun, but without that replay value, what's the point?

[WorldWarIV]

That, that I'll buy.



I think it's more interesting to live one of the character's past instead of just hearing about it.

[Inner]

Ok this is a bit off topic people complaining about bugs in a thread such as this but..



Where are these bugs, I've only found 1 in awakenings that when you complete the game it keeps playing the end sequence over and over to infinity, as for DA:O I've had it crash a couple of times but that is what the save function is there for, software does that from time to time get used to it programmers have become complacent and lazy, until there is a revolution for developers perhaps being forced back to a Commodore 64, your unlikely to see any game software 100% stable ever.



DA:O is reasonably solid considering what I throw at it with my mods of items.

[Eudaemonium]

Kalcalan wrote...

I just hope that the "unique reward that transfers into your Awakening and Origins
campaign" is not Marjolaine's ******.

We all know that it'll be a sword, since every special item that gets added is a sword. ;P I'm playing the game as a mage right now, and find myself constantly stumped at the utter lack of decent mage staffs.

I agree with you completely on all your other points. As much as I like the idea of playing Leliana's past, I'd much prefer more Warden''s Keep/Stone Prisoner/RtO-style add ons, provided they're done well. I still want something set in the Aeonar =P.

[Chairon de Celeste]

I've had the awakening endgame  boss defeat cutscene loop once or twice (pc version)
- happens when you play 'too long ' in a single game session and there's already too
much garbage in the ram / disk cache - best workaround so far is to save and exit
completly before reloading and confronting the endgame boss.

Back to topic:

Edit:
they aren't verbose on the nature of the reward - there's still hope
for new rogue class powers

I guess that the e3 trailer is simply too old by now - hence the dlc is still in devlopement
I consider it a good thing they don't bother us with an outdated trailer.
I still shudder remembering all the eyeglint junk the pr -monkeys added to those
3rd party DA O  oc trailers - that was simply begging for refund and preorder-.cancel
troubles.

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 18 juin 2010 - 01:16 .

[Dokarqt]

Not impressed.



Was hoping for something that expands on Leliana in Origins/Awakening if anything. This seems rather "meh".

[Goldrock]

Im just a bioware fan i like everything they throw at me way i see it its a complete game i beat it anything else is a bonus im happy too pay for 5 too about 7 dollars for a 2 or so hour DLC thats cheap as hell so truthfully nothing too **** about DA:O and DA:A and even the mass effect series are some of the best imo when it comes too storybased games . keep up the good work bioware there are some of us that actually take pride and actually enjoy the games.

[GardenSnake]

I don't know how the dlc starts, but I'm getting kind of sick of the whole new game, what game/expansion/dlc do you want to play deal. It would be cool instead of that to have it as a quest in game. You'd walk up to her, ask her if she has any stories to tell and she'd ask if you wanted to hear her story in more detail. Boom, dlc starts and your still imersed (totally butchered the spelling there) in the world. Just a thought.

[Rocera]

Thanks Bioware for adding to the adventure.


ps.

Kalcalan wrote...
I just hope that the "unique reward that transfers into your Awakening and Origins campaign" is not Marjolaine's ******.

 
I  will only be disappointed if it isn’t something useful   

Modifié par Rocera, 18 juin 2010 - 03:12 .

[joey_mork84]

GardenSnake wrote...

I don't know how the dlc starts, but I'm getting kind of sick of the whole new game, what game/expansion/dlc do you want to play deal. It would be cool instead of that to have it as a quest in game. You'd walk up to her, ask her if she has any stories to tell and she'd ask if you wanted to hear her story in more detail. Boom, dlc starts and your still imersed (totally butchered the spelling there) in the world. Just a thought.

I like this idea. That would be an excellent way to have future DLC's setup..

[Lord Gremlin]

Kalcalan wrote...

Darkspawn Chronicles got rid of the Warden PC thus proving that the PC was not needed for the Blight to be fought. That is a major mistake IMO. There can be no epic without a hero and if the PC is not the hero I don't see the point in playing the game. Besides, Alistair is defined as an unwilling leader because the PC has to step in and take charge (otherwise the PC would end up being Alistair's sidekick and Alistair would invariably be the Warden King of Ferelden).

Wait, wait. Darkspawn Chronicles actually proved that PC was indeed needed for the Blight to be defeated. In DC Darkspawn won, all because there was no PC. And because Alistair is as dumb, as two wooden ducks.

But I have to tell that I'd prefer not a standalone experience, but something like Warden's Keep. And if it has to be standalone - something the size of Awakening, please. And I'm sure for 7$ it's not Awakening, hell no.
I will probably buy this DLC - I really like Dragon Age and any new items for my current dwarfs are appreciated (yes, even Blightblood was a nice addition), but honestly - I'd rather pay 40$ for a large 10-20 hour DLC, than 5-7$ for 1-2 hour DLC.

[joey_mork84]

I only have a few DLC to date (Stone Prisoner, Blood Dragon Armor, and RtO), but this does sound like one I would gladly spend money on, stand-alone or not. Leli is just awesome and I would love to learn more about her past, whether it be playing as her or with her in the party.
Past experience with DA:O DLC tells me it will be great. Stone Prisoner is a must-have imo, if not for the extra quests, then for the party banter . Blood Dragon Armor was really only good for a little extra coin, but that still helped out in the beginning. RtO was short, but well worth the money. Even had it not been for the armor you get in RtO, it was still worth it to kill all the darkspawn that took over Ostegar.. I rather enjoyed that part

Modifié par joey_mork84, 18 juin 2010 - 03:36 .

[volmara]

sounds great , hope the item is on par with blightblood enjoyed that item

[Alyka]

Inner wrote...

Ok this is a bit off topic people complaining about bugs in a thread such as this but..

Where are these bugs, I've only found 1 in awakenings that when you complete the game it keeps playing the end sequence over and over to infinity, as for DA:O I've had it crash a couple of times but that is what the save function is there for, software does that from time to time get used to it programmers have become complacent and lazy, until there is a revolution for developers perhaps being forced back to a Commodore 64, your unlikely to see any game software 100% stable ever.

DA:O is reasonably solid considering what I throw at it with my mods of items.

I play on the 360.
I can point out three glitches.
We don't use mod's or exploit glitches.
1: My fiance's DA:O Arcane Warrior character save file got corrupted upon playing Awakening for the first time when he imported it to Awakening and he had to delete it.
2: The game froze for him three times in a row on another character of his when he entered Vigil's Keep in the beginning of the game.We restarted the 360 and let it rest for a couple minutes and it still froze.
3: On one of my playthroughs, at the part inside Vigil's Keep after Dworkin sets off a bomb and darkspawn run up the stairs and break through the door, they didn't break through the door and I couldn't open it.I was trapped.I had to reload a save.

I like the idea of being able to play as Leliana.Maybe we'll be able to see just what exactly happened when Marjolaine betrayed her and get a glimpse of Orlais.I just hope that the gameplay time will be worth the price.

[Kothoses Rothenkisal]

Hopefully this is a sign of things to come, I would love to have DLC that plays out the events leading up to the companions meeting the warden that would be cool. Atleast for some of them anyway.



More story/character based DLC yes please.

[nranola]

Now this is a DLC I can get behind.

[SlfeR]

WOW!!!!! I waited this for very long time. Just finished the Overlord DLC fo ME 2, and now another DLC for another great game will be released soon!!!!

[SlfeR]

nranola wrote...

Now this is a DLC I can get behind.

Dam right, just cant miss it

[Sylvius the Mad]

Suprez30 wrote...

Mass effect 2 ?You mean that crappy game with a metacritic score of 94 and will probably win GOTY?

I admit I haven't yet played ME2, but roleplaying was completely impossible in ME1, and I really don't think they improved it any between the two games.

You also play a pre-defined character in dragon age  .

No you don't.  You're completely in control of your PC's personality.  Everything your character thinks is determined by you.  Every preference he has is your doing.  Every decision he makes is based on motives you created.

ME and ME2 are entirely unlike that.  Shepard is a pre-defined character with an established personality of which the player is unaware at the start of the game.  As you choose options on the dialoguye wheel you do not know what Shepard is going to say, and you do not know why Shepard chooses to say those things.  You can guess, but later remarks from Shepard could well contradict you because you don't know what's going to be said until after the fact.

Contrast that with DAO where the PC will never contradict your ideas about his personality because you can just avoid the dialogue options that do that (which is impossible in ME because the dialogue options are purposefully hidden from you).

Even when the uttered line in ME was short enough to fit on the wheel (like "Why?" or some other single-word response) that was never what the wheel said.  The paraphrased options on the wheel were intentionally obfuscatory - otherwise they would have at least been accurate when space permitted.

The only difference .. You're voiced in ME2

Being voiced is a huge difference.  Being voiced robs you of control of how lines are delivered by your character.

[FlyersAvsGirl]

loved DAO (my fave game next to ME1, ME2, and a close tie with Fallout 3) but have to say the DLC so far stinks.  Get with the ME2 DLC Dept Bioware because they know what they are doing.  Stay with the story you created and expand, dont back track with stories we already know the outcome. Take me to Antiva with the Crows or Val Roy. with Leliana but let me be the character I spent 60+ hours creating. Shale was best DLC and even that was only because she's such a cool party member during regular game play. I'm not wasting the money on Leliana's Song until I see some player reviews that sway me otherwise. Darkspawn Chronicles was last DLC I will buy and I was seriously disappointed with that and the previous DLC for DAO.

[Nero280]

I love Dragon Age to death, but I'm not interested in a Leliana DLC. I think a Sten DLC would be much better since Sten is so good at kicking butt. Better yet, make another expansion pack that properly wraps up the Warden's story!

[fchopin]

This sounds interesting so will be getting the dlc.

[Wicked 702]

Inner wrote...

Ok this is a bit off topic people complaining about bugs in a thread such as this but..

Where are these bugs, I've only found 1 in awakenings that when you complete the game it keeps playing the end sequence over and over to infinity, as for DA:O I've had it crash a couple of times but that is what the save function is there for, software does that from time to time get used to it programmers have become complacent and lazy, until there is a revolution for developers perhaps being forced back to a Commodore 64, your unlikely to see any game software 100% stable ever.

DA:O is reasonably solid considering what I throw at it with my mods of items.

Actually, the "people with bugs that complain" group (which I'm a proud member of) has generally been respectful since Bioware FINALLY decided to keep us in the loop as to the progress with fixing the game.

Here's a link to the 360 bugs list started about a month after Origins launched last November. Please keep in mind that consoles have seen very little (basically nothing) fixed since then so that's why you're hearing a lot of discontent. But I think it's perfectly fair for them to indicate that they expect permanent patch progress before buying. Also quite a few of those problems are cross-platform, meaning you have them on the PC as well, so just because you haven't noticed them doesn't mean they don't exist. You've probably used Qwinn's fixpack, something we don't have access to, which removes a lot of those issues for you PC users.

That's enough on that today from me. Now stop......Hammertime.

[Broken1477]

But the question we're all asking ourselves...will we be able to explore the pre-betrayal romantic exploits of Lelianna and Marjolene, and exactly how graphic can we expect it to be? (Places tongue firmly in cheek)