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[element eater]

cbutz wrote...

My problem with this is that Leliana already tells you the story.Also this might be one of those cases where its better to leave it up to the players imagination.

yeah they will either tell u what u already know or make something up that doesnt fit with what she tells u in game
much better a new story set after DAO or even putting a new quest with her into awakening

as for doing origins for more npcs wouldnt people just prefer new content for the warden or storys they could ultimately effect. releasing stories for all the characters would get tired fast

edit: although after seeing the trailer will say it does look good just please dont make this a trend for future dlc

Modifié par element eater, 28 juin 2010 - 02:00 .

[paxm]

LPPrince wrote...

Morrigan DLC would totally rock my socks after Leliana's.

This.

[worksa8]

Patch the game first- then I'll buy this.

[Lintanis]

 Might be a bit more then DC was, looks like a bigger DLC then that one was 


social.bioware.com/1348012/polls/7238/

[Thandal N'Lyman]

ShawnSig wrote...

Hmm, I wonder how much this dlc will cost. 400 for Darkspawn Chronic was pretty good.

Ummmmm,  maybe USD7.00, as the announcement on the Bioware DLC site told us?

http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/
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Leliana's Song                             $7
Available July 6, 2010.
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[Moirnelithe]

Leliana soon finds herself entangled in a game of intrigue that she cannot escape with just her beauty, charm, or stealth. The only way out of this game is to kill or be killed.

Does this mean a 'no story and just kill, kill, kill, loot, kill' dlc again? Seriously, I'd much prefer if she could escape with her beauty, charm or stealth, that's rpg.

Modifié par Evainelithe, 28 juin 2010 - 04:19 .

[Frogman1975]

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

bellecannon wrote...

"Morrigan DLC would totally rock my socks after Leliana's."
+1

I think expanding on all of the character's origins is a really cool idea, Zevran's as an assassin, Alistair as a Templar, etc, etc.

would like to see a Morrigan DLC too but i very much doubt it will ever happen, like someone posted before it just might reveal too much of the storyline for DA2
the other companions... who knows .... here's  me hoping this will be the first of the companions DLC

You could do a Morrigan prequel without impacting any potential Morrigan revelations in DA2.

[Frogman1975]

TMZuk wrote...

Frogman1975 wrote...

johanna76 wrote...

Helekanalaith wrote...

I'm in the opposite camp; what's with people and their obsession with the Warden?

Well I guess this "obsession" is comparable to the reason people wanted to know what happened to Luke and his friends after Empire Strikes Back, rather than have a totally new game with characters we never heard about before. We wanted to know if the Hobbits finally reached Mount Doom in the Return of the King, not have the story-flow interrupted by the chronicles of a teenage Gandalf learning spells at the mage academy.  *edited for space*

But what you mention is exactly what Tolkien did after finishing LotR. He wrote the Silmarilion to explore the early history of Middle Earth, and some of the stuff from the Lost Tales that, if video game content, would be considered "side quests"

No it is not. Tolkien wrote on Silmarillion his whole life, from the trenches of Somme in 1916 to his death. He was never intending it should be published, and what was published after his death, under the name Silmarillion, is merely a fragment of his writings, and it is from that same bulk of notes and writings they keep publishing stuff about Middle-Earth.

The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, on the other hand, are books written for publishing, to earn money and after J.R.R.T. had been convinced by his friends, notably C.S. Lewis, that the mythology he was creating - the Silmarillion - would be an epic background for a novel or a series of novels.

DA's Silmarillion would be all the notes and books and stuff you collect during the game, gradually piecing together the early history of the world.


Why I want DA2 to pick up where DA ended is very simple: DA did not bring closure. Without closure you cannot end a story. Well Stephen King can, but that is also why he sucks. I want to know how my character ends, and Awakening sure as **** did not provide that. I want to know what Morrigan does. I want to know what happens to Shale.

Basicly: I've read the Fellowship of the Ring. Now I want to read the Two Towers. But maybe it will be like this: I've read the Hobbit. the next thing will be the Lord of the Rings. Then we'll get closure to the old characters, and new heroes have to emerge. But I hope not, as a personal preference, I'm preferring to keep my protagonist(s).

True. It was drawn on all his notes and bits and pieces he put together over the years. But there wasn't enough interest to publish all that until after the fact. I was addressing more the presentation, not the order of creation. (No one wanted to read that until they were already fanatical about the Hobbit and LotR.)  Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

Oh, and I definitely want to know more about what happened with my warrior too, and his "relationship" with Morrigan. I agree with you there for DA2. But I got no problem with them using all the canon and backstory they've already established to craft prequel DLC (a la the Silmarillion and Christopher Tolkien edited stuff).

Modifié par Frogman1975, 28 juin 2010 - 08:10 .

[Kwanzaabot]

I knew it, it's in Ferelden. :/



Still, the whole "glimpses of party members early lives and teasers for upcoming characters" has definitely piqued my interest.

[Fishy]

tom2504 wrote...

anorling wrote...

I'll buy this DLC for sure, just as i have bought all the other DLC's. I just hope that my Leliana Sacred Ashes look-alike facemorph and armor will work with this DLC as well. Her original look with the strange hair, face and yellow teeth is just to creepy for me.

You realise she is SUPPOSED to look scruffy and have boyish looks?

Teeth are actually yellow'ish and not sugar white
Especialy in a setting where i doubt toothpaste exist.

[RaigarMF]

Well its about friggin time. The past few dlc's sucked balls. pardon my language but I hope you all know what I mean.            Ahhhhhhhhh Leliana

[ljwaves]

I would buy this....but I will wait and see about this new patch - if things are not actually fixed that I feel important - then this is a no go for me.

[Jestina]

It doesn't look or sound like Leli from the game. I won't mess with DLC's unless they give something to the game either. Stand alone junk like Darkspawn Chronicles, I don't even mess with.

[Daryn Mercio]

thepiebaker wrote...

with this one can assume that there will be one for all if not most of the other characters

oghrens journey to find branca
zeverans life as a crow
alistar being trained as a templar
morrigan living life with her mother and killing templars that go into the wilds looking for them
shale fighting darkspawn with the other golems before being a statue then getting into the hands of that mage
sten and his adventures
wynn and training new mages

I think alistairs training is pretty self explanatory. He would just be cooped inside of a chantry for years. As awesome as Alistair is, I think that wouldn't be too appealing.
Shale fighting darkspawn is seen throughout origins.
Wynne training a bunch of mages isn't very... awesome. She's a well thought out character (sometimes annoying) but seeing her teach basic spells to mages (which is what the templars would restrict you to) wouldn't even be worth it if there was something big involved, and the biggest thing to happen to the tower happens in origins. As far as I know.
Oghrens journey to find Branka could be cool, as long as some interesting and different parts of the Roads are added and provided we get to command a company of dwarves to fight with us.
Zevran is my least favorite character, yet the life as a budding and daring Antivan assassin would be intriguing.
Stens life as a soldier in the Beresaad would be brutal, with lots of warfare. awesome.
Morrigan shouldn't get a dlc, but I am one of those guys on here that want the next big expansion to surround her and your search for her, whether or not you romanced her.

[OneEntity]

I really hoped they'd take the opportunity of a Leliana DLC and rework her model/face.... Leliana looks nothing like she does in the trailer from way back when, not even her hair ffs.... Morrigan at least looks sort of like that, her hair fits more or less, same goes for Sten.



Leliana is supposed to be a seductress, she herself says she mastered the art of seducing men and women, of being what they desired etc. Imo for that to work to the extent she says it did she must also have marvelous looks which she quite honestly does not.

I understand Bioware goes for, sort of, realism in Dragon Age, no super models around every corner. But Leliana ought to look stunning, or at least much better than she does.



They even redid her hair (still nothing like in the trailer though) but didn't seem to change her face or anything.



Well... guess I'll have to keep using mods for that, sadly. :/



As for the DLC itself, not sure I'm gonna get it, I got every Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 DLC so far and so far none of them have been outstanding. Some were ok, some sucked, none were great. Especially the character DLCs Kasumi and Zaeed (k, he was free so not really complaining here) were disappointing, I expected "real" characters like Miranda, Mordin, the rest of the crew. People with a story you could talk to, not a talking box that spouts a couple sentences if you click on it. Same problem with DA: Awakening. The story etc. was fine, the the characters were defintely less...... "real" than the ones in Origins.



I know that past a certain point the normal characters also don't say anything new, but it just feels different.



I've been a huge fan of Bioware for years (damn, over a decade now I think when was BG1/2, all that good stuff), still am, I'm really really looking forward to Old Republic (will probably leave WoW for it) but Awakening and the DLCs have for the first time somewhat dampened my enthusiasm about Bioware...



Also - what the hell is up with your own DLCs not working in your own Addon!? Namely the stuff from the Warden's Keep DLC not working in Awakening. Yes I know the blood spells are still technically "there" but they don't work, they don't do anything.



Done with the ranting, thanks.



FFS I know I'll get the Leliana DLC, I'm a sucker for knowing all there is to a story even if it involves getting DLCs to get new parts of the story but.... damn... -.-

[Daryn Mercio]

ares71 wrote...

So when do we get "Dog's Bark" DLC? Explore the backstory of Dog as you raise him from a Mabari pup to the events at Ostagar.....

wow, I burst out laughing hearing this.

[sandslayer76]

I'm just hoping that Bioware doesn't cop out and make the Morrigan god-child thing a simple DLC. What I want to see is how my Warden's kid will turn out, personally. Whether they make him/her an unsuspecting hero, an evil villain, a twisted grotesque corruption of humanity, a human with godlike influence or more human than anyone could have thought of, I don't care. I just want to know.



But this DLC is a good sign. Leliana may not be my favourite character (Morrigan is much better. Leliana's morals grated on my nerves), but she is definitely interesting (as are all the companions). I mean, with all this complaining going on I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware gave us the shaft. Seriously, people. Just be happy you're getting more content on an awesome game.

[Mackey18]

will it have voice acting this time?

[MaxQuartiroli]

sandslayer76 wrote...

I'm just hoping that Bioware doesn't cop out and make the Morrigan god-child thing a simple DLC. What I want to see is how my Warden's kid will turn out, personally. Whether they make him/her an unsuspecting hero, an evil villain, a twisted grotesque corruption of humanity, a human with godlike influence or more human than anyone could have thought of, I don't care. I just want to know.

Everytime I read of this I always ask....

"And what about players like me who didn't have Morrigan pregnant?"

Should we all have our stories screwed up just to give some players the option to continue their story?

No intention to pick up a fight or to offend Morrigan's fan...

I am just trying to say that the most logic choice would be to give the option to see an end to this thing via DLC, for all the players who are involved in it and to not ruin all others playtroughs...

[JamieCOTC]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

sandslayer76 wrote...

I'm just hoping that Bioware doesn't cop out and make the Morrigan god-child thing a simple DLC. What I want to see is how my Warden's kid will turn out, personally. Whether they make him/her an unsuspecting hero, an evil villain, a twisted grotesque corruption of humanity, a human with godlike influence or more human than anyone could have thought of, I don't care. I just want to know.

Everytime I read of this I always ask....

"And what about players like me who didn't have Morrigan pregnant?"

Should we all have our stories screwed up just to give some players the option to continue their story?

No intention to pick up a fight or to offend Morrigan's fan...

I am just trying to say that the most logic choice would be to give the option to see an end to this thing via DLC, for all the players who are involved in it and to not ruin all others playtroughs...

I understand your pain, but BW retconned ME2 all to hell and IIRC, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer "assumes" the player did not unleash evil at the end of the first game.  BW will most likely give a one line explination to how M. got preggers.  Of course it would be interesting if BW went the other way and M gives Daddy Warden/Alister a one line speech on how the child died at birth. 

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Jestina wrote...

It doesn't look or sound like Leli from the game. I won't mess with DLC's unless they give something to the game either. Stand alone junk like Darkspawn Chronicles, I don't even mess with.

The voice is  Leli's.  Corinne Kempa posted the first news I'd seen about this DLC on her website months ago when she finished doing the new recordings for Leliana's Song.

Can't speak to the "face" part of the look since the trailer is a bit blurry, but in DA:O Marjolaine makes a specific comment about how her hair is very different from (one presumes) the last time they'd seen each other.
I use a Leli (and a Morri) facemorph to tweak (soften) her just a bit.  Presume (hope?) it'll still work! 

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 30 juin 2010 - 03:22 .

[MaxQuartiroli]

JamieCOTC wrote...

I understand your pain, but BW retconned ME2 all to hell and IIRC, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer "assumes" the player did not unleash evil at the end of the first game.  BW will most likely give a one line explination to how M. got preggers.  Of course it would be interesting if BW went the other way and M gives Daddy Warden/Alister a one line speech on how the child died at birth. 

They have put themselves in this awkwarding situation and now they must find a way to come out without disappointing anyone, nor Morrigan's lovers, nor players who doesn't care anything about her and her baby-demon...

We have people here who hopes that a sequel will be centered about the story of the baby demon, and people who just hopes to never see her again in a future game.. the difference is very great and choose radical solution can turn out in a big disappointment

I just hope they already figured about this when they began to write the story.. If not  they had anyway a lot of time to find something, therefore I won't accept a lame solution...

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 30 juin 2010 - 03:56 .

[Frogman1975]

Daryn Mercio wrote...

thepiebaker wrote...

with this one can assume that there will be one for all if not most of the other characters

oghrens journey to find branca
zeverans life as a crow
alistar being trained as a templar
morrigan living life with her mother and killing templars that go into the wilds looking for them
shale fighting darkspawn with the other golems before being a statue then getting into the hands of that mage
sten and his adventures
wynn and training new mages

I think alistairs training is pretty self explanatory. He would just be cooped inside of a chantry for years. As awesome as Alistair is, I think that wouldn't be too appealing.
Shale fighting darkspawn is seen throughout origins.
Wynne training a bunch of mages isn't very... awesome. She's a well thought out character (sometimes annoying) but seeing her teach basic spells to mages (which is what the templars would restrict you to) wouldn't even be worth it if there was something big involved, and the biggest thing to happen to the tower happens in origins. As far as I know.
Oghrens journey to find Branka could be cool, as long as some interesting and different parts of the Roads are added and provided we get to command a company of dwarves to fight with us.
Zevran is my least favorite character, yet the life as a budding and daring Antivan assassin would be intriguing.
Stens life as a soldier in the Beresaad would be brutal, with lots of warfare. awesome.
Morrigan shouldn't get a dlc, but I am one of those guys on here that want the next big expansion to surround her and your search for her, whether or not you romanced her.

Who says Wynne's would have to be her teaching young mages? You know, Wynne was young once herself. I'm sure that she, of all characters (other than maybe Shale) would probably have the most stories to tell. Maybe some adventure that she had to undertake (under the watchful eyes of the Templars) as a young mage? Something involving an apostate and/or maleficar? 

[Frogman1975]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I understand your pain, but BW retconned ME2 all to hell and IIRC, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer "assumes" the player did not unleash evil at the end of the first game.  BW will most likely give a one line explination to how M. got preggers.  Of course it would be interesting if BW went the other way and M gives Daddy Warden/Alister a one line speech on how the child died at birth. 

They have put themselves in this awkwarding situation and now they must find a way to come out without disappointing anyone, nor Morrigan's lovers, nor players who doesn't care anything about her and her baby-demon...

We have people here who hopes that a sequel will be centered about the story of the baby demon, and people who just hopes to never see her again in a future game.. the difference is very great and choose radical solution can turn out in a big disappointment

I just hope they already figured about this when they began to write the story.. If not  they had anyway a lot of time to find something, therefore I won't accept a lame solution...

I think the best way to handle it would be as sidequests that only appear if you've imported a save game where a Warden romanced her, and then, assuming this is set far enough in the future, you can recruit the powerful God-Child into your party and flesh out the story that way.

If they choose to go the villian route, they'll probably just have a different Evil-God-Child origin story for female wardens and those who didn't romance Morrigan that involves some other blood-magic pregnancy hoodoo on Morrigan's part, (maybe involving her seducing some unsuspecting guard before the big battle and using blood from a warden that she could have collected at any time...like say when the warden was recuperating in Flemeth's cabin).

There are a few ways it could be worked in, if integral to the story, without ruining anyone's ending.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Frogman1975 wrote...

I think the best way to handle it would be as sidequests that only appear if you've imported a save game where a Warden romanced her, and then, assuming this is set far enough in the future, you can recruit the powerful God-Child into your party and flesh out the story that way.

This one can be a right solution but... Fans won't be even happy of a DLC dedicated to her.. What if you reduce her to a side quest? Tons of flames and angry people running through this forum then...you'll see

If they choose to go the villian route, they'll probably just have a different Evil-God-Child origin story for female wardens and those who didn't romance Morrigan that involves some other blood-magic pregnancy hoodoo on Morrigan's part, (maybe involving her seducing some unsuspecting guard before the big battle and using blood from a warden that she could have collected at any time...like say when the warden was recuperating in Flemeth's cabin).

Already discussed it elsewhere... it wouldn't  be a working solution for me, cause it wouldn't explain why someone in my playtrough had to die to kill the Archdemon... Therefore no... This one shouldn't be a solution I could accept

Anyway... We'll knew this sooner or later.. For now I am going to enjoy this DLC... Let's see if/what will happen with Morrigan and other companions in a future...

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 30 juin 2010 - 05:42 .