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Bioware: we want the FAQs on char importing ME1 >>ME2 & ME2 >>ME3


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mrmike_1949

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I would like to see Bioware post a FAQ/sticky about the ins and outs of
save game importing from ME1 to ME2 and ME2 to ME3.

Issues to be
covered include:

** Exactly which saves can be transferred
: completed games only? partial games?

   For example: I complete as a soldier, level 50 (call this save S50C). I then start a 2nd game with this   character,   but only go half way (save name S55N)

   I next start as an engineer, complete a game (E50C); then play with this character a complete game (E60C)

   Next, I start as an adept, but only play 1/2 game (A25N)

EXACTLY which of the above saves can be imported into ME2??

How about ME2 to ME3 ??? Hopefully, Bioware is giving a little more thought to documenting the Import function in ME3.

** Exactly HOW do I transfer the correct save games
files to a new hdd and/or new computer?? If I want to replay ME2 in five
or ten years from now with my ME1 character, EXACTLY how do I do it?? How about ME2 characters into ME3 in the future?? Same issues for XBOX.

Bioware: you OWE this to
your customers! All the ads say we can import characters, but there
are too many 'gotchas', and there does not seem to be any one location to find the needed information. If someone at Bioware actually has all these answers, it shouldn't take more than 4 hours of their time to create a FAQ

A 'sticky' FAQ on this forum would be extremely helpful!

Mike K

Modifié par mrmike_1949, 16 juin 2010 - 07:52 .


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javierabegazo

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I'll sticky this in the hopes that it gets more attention from passing Employees such as Woo or Larke.

Chris Priestly is out of the office until the 7th of July btw

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I also have a few questions that I believe BioWare OWES their customers an answer to. If I make a thread, will it be made sticky too?

By the way, the answers to those questions of yours are pretty much known.

1. You can only import into ME 2 the save games made automatically by ME 1 at the end of each career.

2. If you imported a save game into NG+ in ME 1, that's a new character that can also be imported into ME 2, but again only if you played it to the end.

3. The save games are stored in your Mass Effect folder under "My Documents". The importable save games are easily identified. Instead of having the name of your character in their file name, they start with "Char_".

4. To be able import a character, you need to use the ME 2 config utility and tell the game wherever those save games are located.

And now I'll go and write my thread with important questions that I believe BioWare OWES me an answer to. Looking forward to seeing it made sticky.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 16 juin 2010 - 10:32 .


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Shotokanguy

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The first question is well known and the second seems completely irrelevant. Who knows what video games will be like in ten years? You may not need to worry about it by then.

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Doctor_Jackstraw

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What I want to know is: Will your space hamster and dead fish transfer to me3?

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mrmike_1949

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Shotokanguy wrote...

The first question is well known and the second seems completely irrelevant. Who knows what video games will be like in ten years? You may not need to worry about it by then.


The first question is a little less well known then you seem to think - search "import" in these forums. It would still be nice to have all  the answers in one (easily found)  place, and that place should be Bioware, either forum or game specific web pages.

2nd question refers to re-playing ME1 and/or ME2 in 10 years from now. I like to replay games after a few years have gone by. I played Eye of the Beholder last summer, as well as Icewind Dale - both very old games. I want to be able to do the same in the future with Mass Effect. Will I be able to ?? I actually suspect that the answer is no.

Another point of this post is to encourage Bioware to do a better job documenting importing for ME3: how/what/where etc.

Documentation for moving save files to a new hdd/computer or a new XBOX are really lacking also. Are you planning on keeping your current computer the rest of your life??

MikeK

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bjdbwea wrote...

I also have a few questions that I believe BioWare OWES their customers an answer to. If I make a thread, will it be made sticky too?

By the way, the answers to those questions of yours are pretty much known.

1. You can only import into ME 2 the save games made automatically by ME 1 at the end of each career.

2. If you imported a save game into NG+ in ME 1, that's a new character that can also be imported into ME 2, but again only if you played it to the end.

3. The save games are stored in your Mass Effect folder under "My Documents". The importable save games are easily identified. Instead of having the name of your character in their file name, they start with "Char_".

4. To be able import a character, you need to use the ME 2 config utility and tell the game wherever those save games are located.

And now I'll go and write my thread with important questions that I believe BioWare OWES me an answer to. Looking forward to seeing it made sticky.


1&2) So from my fictional save games: S50C, E50C, and E60C could all be imported into ME2??

3) That's sometning I didn't know. Where is that info from? If's it's essentially 'word of mouth' thru this or other forum, then it's still a failure by Bioware - they shouldn't be depending on customers to provide the game documentaion. "Known" does not mean Documented, I want the info documented.

3a) So If I copy the "Char_" files to a new hdd/computer, I would be able to import into ME2 on that new hdd?

I have a PC, not an XBOX, but I would suspect that at least some XBOX uses would like the same info.

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mrmike_1949 wrote...

1&2) So from my fictional save games: S50C, E50C, and E60C could all be imported into ME2??

3) That's sometning I didn't know. Where is that info from? If's it's essentially 'word of mouth' thru this or other forum, then it's still a failure by Bioware - they shouldn't be depending on customers to provide the game documentaion. "Known" does not mean Documented, I want the info documented.

3a) So If I copy the "Char_" files to a new hdd/computer, I would be able to import into ME2 on that new hdd?

I have a PC, not an XBOX, but I would suspect that at least some XBOX uses would like the same info.


1&2) yes
3) BioWare posts in the old forum, and first hand experience when following the instructions given in the ME2 FAQ
3a)yes

Modifié par Merci357, 17 juin 2010 - 12:09 .


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It should seem logical whether or not you can import partial playthroughs. You haven't made all of the decisions yet and the game would have to give you default ones. Plus, the NG+ counts as a totally separate playthrough.

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Something kind of annoying about ME1 is that the completion files seem to be separate/independent of the character files, and everytime I complete ME1, even if I reload and play through again just to re-see the ending, it creates an extra import file, so when I try to important ME1 chars into 2, it's hard telling who is who and which is which because there are so many redundant and/or vague copies. On the important screen, it doesn't really say anything other than name/class, and sometimes I have similar datas where I saved/reloaded and took slightly diff paths with the same character. I wish I could at least clean out or delete the extra completion files on a character in ME1.

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Merci357

checked out the ME2 FAQ, and it is pretty good, but not complete. For example, no mention of "Char_" files. For future replays you would need to know about those files, otherwise might delete them. The FAQ is also not clear (to me at least) whether both E50C and E60C would be imported. I understood that incomplete games were almost surely not imported, but did want to verify it.



Felfenix - that is part of my issue also - I may want to save the special save files for import for several years (5 years, 10 years?) Do I have to save the entire save file directory?? I hope not

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You can't import incomplete games.

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I think I would just like to be able to alter my imported Shepard's face. But, yeah, a FAQ detailing the minut specifics of the Import system would be nice.

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mrmike_1949 wrote...

bjdbwea wrote...

I also have a few questions that I believe BioWare OWES their customers an answer to. If I make a thread, will it be made sticky too?

By the way, the answers to those questions of yours are pretty much known.

1. You can only import into ME 2 the save games made automatically by ME 1 at the end of each career.

2. If you imported a save game into NG+ in ME 1, that's a new character that can also be imported into ME 2, but again only if you played it to the end.

3. The save games are stored in your Mass Effect folder under "My Documents". The importable save games are easily identified. Instead of having the name of your character in their file name, they start with "Char_".

4. To be able import a character, you need to use the ME 2 config utility and tell the game wherever those save games are located.

And now I'll go and write my thread with important questions that I believe BioWare OWES me an answer to. Looking forward to seeing it made sticky.


1&2) So from my fictional save games: S50C, E50C, and E60C could all be imported into ME2??

3) That's sometning I didn't know. Where is that info from? If's it's essentially 'word of mouth' thru this or other forum, then it's still a failure by Bioware - they shouldn't be depending on customers to provide the game documentaion. "Known" does not mean Documented, I want the info documented.

3a) So If I copy the "Char_" files to a new hdd/computer, I would be able to import into ME2 on that new hdd?

I have a PC, not an XBOX, but I would suspect that at least some XBOX uses would like the same info.

Bioware answered those quetions to hell and back during the marketing stage of ME2 at the old forums.
Only complete games get transfered. If you beat the game 2 times with a character that you you get 2 saves to choose to transfer over with that character. If 3 times, 3 saves. Uncompleted games flat out don't get trasfered.

Modifié par dreman9999, 18 juin 2010 - 12:52 .


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But what about from ME2 to ME3?

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Kamagawa wrote...

But what about from ME2 to ME3?

Similar process I presume, but no hard data since the game has not even been officially teased.

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why would you be able to import a half finished playthrough of ME1 into ME2? if you only half finished it then gave up then the galaxy would have been destroyed therefore no ME2 to import into..

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Yup, you can only import characters with whom you've finished the game. Incomplete saves/playthrough's won't be read by the importer and, as a result, are not importable.

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Not to sound too much like an ass, but is it really so difficult to go into the import utility and find some of these answers for yourself?

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Jaron Oberyn

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I agree. It's pretty self explanatory.



-Polite

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Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

What I want to know is: Will your space hamster and dead fish transfer to me3?


Your dead fish won't but your live ones will. But they'll be dead because you didn't feed them while you weren't playing.

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It's a very safe bet to assume that only complete games can be imported from game to game.



The problem is that if you try and import an only partial game from ME2 to ME3 - Do you really want the game deciding for you which of your teammates died and which didn't - If at all? It makes no sense trying to import from a partial game. You might aswell start a completely new game in ME3 since the variables are too big.



Same goes for ME1 to 2.

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To put an end to all of this, here are the basics of importing

1. Only COMPLETED games are transferred over to ME2, any partial games must be completed to be transferred or just cannot be played until you finish their campaign

2. Bioware has only announced that relationships and squad members that survived will carry on into ME3, IE: Garrus dies on the Normandy if he dies, HE IS FLAT OUT GONE! No information on pets, achievement bonuses, or other things have been announced, probably because they are so early in their development stages for Mass Effect 3 that they themselves might not have even answered all of these questions, just trust Bioware's gut on this, we've been loyal this long.

3.Xbox game import is VERY EASY! If you completed a campaign, it WILL show up on the import menu, selecting the profile will give you a very brief summary of all the important details on the game, like if Wrex died on Virmire, who you left to die in the explosion, did the council survive, and your renegade/paragon status. small things such as how you treated Conrad Verner will not be mentioned but will be revealed with time.

4. If Shepard dies in the collector base, data won't transfer to ME3, THIS IS ABOUT SHEPARD, NOT THE REAPERS!

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Some of the PC users might know this from the savegame editor, but there is a field in the ME2 savegames that indicates that you have finished the game (and if you have survived).



ME3 import will probably work a lot like the ME2 NG+ sequence.

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I think I read from one dev that the game save contains if you had Kelly in your room after completing the game. I would think that you could import any game that has a save with the game complete (Shepard dead or not). You have no idea what each individual has done after finishing the suicide mission, or if there is any DLC that occurs after this event. 

I would really like a detailed knowledge on what exactly is contained, I am working on an Adept now that will be imported. I expect it to be left alone for months though whilst I wait to see what else is made available to download. Even this playthrough is my second, I learnt my lesson and have a save at the start of disc 2.