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[Anomaly-]

I don't normally make topics like this, but I find myself bored and strangely curious. Is there any character you've just never been able to give a chance? Something about them you just can't look past?

For me, it's always been Zevran. I've just always found him cheesy and lame. He's supposed to be some badass, cold-hearted assassin, but he comes off like some cheap Disney version to me. I mean seriously, "Zev to my friends"? Who says that? And that would-be Antonio Banderas accent, ugh. He may as well be Puss-In-Boots from the Shrek movies, though I'd say Puss-In-Boots is more convincing. I guess I also don't like him because I ALWAYS play a rogue (particularly a dual-wielding dagger rogue), and I don't like people intruding on my role. Leliana is ok because shes cute, a bard, and I outfit her to use a bow. Which is another thing, I don't like Zevran tryin to hit on my ladies when there are perfectly good dudes in the camp he can hit on. Anyway, first playthrough I let him live just because I wanted the assassin specialization. In subsequent playthroughs I usually kill him .

I've never been much a fan of Oghren, either. Just seems like such a shallow character. Every single one of his dialogues revolves around "I'm a dwarf", "I like booze", "I'm hairy", "I'm a pervert", "I'd beat my wife if I still had one", etc. Tries way too hard to be a man's man.

On the flip-side, the one companion I always have a soft spot for is Dog. I mean, how couldn't you? Does anyone ever actually kill him or turn him away? They should probably be shot, if they do.

Hope I didn't offend anyone. Just a bit of humor.

Modifié par Anomaly-, 17 juin 2010 - 05:52 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

If dog can be considered a character, it would be my least favorite. Maybe because I find it hard to rp attachement to it. I never had a dog, so maybe that explains it.

Dog is sort of like T3 M4. Cute, but gets old very quick.

[Cuddlezarro]

Leliena and Wynne tend to die horrible deaths now really cant stand the either of them Alistais down there as well

[Nobody Important]

Alistair. He doesn't care about Fereldan at all and will leave it to the blight. He is also extremely unloyal to the wardens and walks out.  All he cares about is himself and his foster fathers. Also his jokes aren't funny. Easily the most selfish character in the game. Also he whines too much.

Modifié par Nobody Important, 17 juin 2010 - 05:57 .

[Gilsa]

If you play as much as you do, try getting each character to 100 approval at the very least. Most of them have a story to tell and usually have a better parting speech at the gates of Fort Drakon. May or may not change your opinion of them after all that, but at least you'll be able to better back up why you dislike them rather than going by bad first impressions.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Nobody Important wrote...

Alistair. He cares nothing about his country and will abandon it just because he is a selfish bastard. Also his jokes aren't funny.

Here we go again.
Alistairian response in 3....2...


@ Gilsa. Your advice doesn't work with dog. It just has no personality whatsoever. It's either you like it from the start or you don't.
In fact, dog is my least favorite because I am indifferent to it.

[Axekix]

Probably Zevran, or Shale. Shale is pretty ridiculous in combat though so I guess that would give her the edge. I just have a hard time relating to these two for some reason... in every play through.



Though tbh that isn't really a dig at either of them, I don't really "dislike" any of the DAO cast. They're just my least explored I guess.

[Leo]

Lord Vaughn, and the Tevinter Slavers.

[Axekix]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

@ Gilsa. Your advice doesn't work with dog. It just has no personality whatsoever.

It does if you take it around with you.  Dog's interactions in party banter and at camp are pretty funny imo (especially with Morrigan).  Dog whines sympathetically in conversations in RTO, and of course the scene where it picks up the orphan in Denerim is good for a laugh. 

I actually like Dog, but I always had pets growing up so I can relate.

Modifié par Axekix, 17 juin 2010 - 06:03 .

[RecklezzRogue]

Ok - Wynne - I really can't stand being lectured...in fact, in my last play through, I off'ed her when I met her - Morrigan helped to ****** her off...which was cool ;-)

[RecklezzRogue]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

and of course the scene where it picks up the orphan in Denerim is good for a laugh. 

o I gotta see that....lol...

Modifié par RecklezzRogue, 17 juin 2010 - 06:07 .

[adneate]

Yeah I don't like Zevran either, I can't relate to him and find everything he believes in repugnant. I've tried about 3 times to give the character a fair chance and to to be honest I just can't do it. I don't like talking to him, and he's garbage in battle so I just gave up. I read all his dialog in the toolset so I can see why others like him but not me . . .

The other one is Wynne initially I sorta liked Wynne but the more I play though the game the less I like her, she's just too preachy and annoying. If I need a mage I prefer to bring Morrigan since she's funny, well written and doesn't complain at me so much.

[Anomaly-]

Gilsa wrote...

If you play as much as you do, try getting each character to 100 approval at the very least. Most of them have a story to tell and usually have a better parting speech at the gates of Fort Drakon. May or may not change your opinion of them after all that, but at least you'll be able to better back up why you dislike them rather than going by bad first impressions.

Thats true, they are first impressions which is why I said I couldn't get past it to give them a chance. Though in truth I have investigated their stories and I still just found them both predictable, and neither convincing.

As for Dog, the whole reason I like him is because he IS convincing. Hes just a dog, and is very convincing of it. I have also had a lot of pets growing up, so that may be a factor, and also how I've found his interactions to be so convincing and endearing. Dog actually had more surprises for me than either Zevran or Oghren did (someone already mentioned the boy in Denerim).

Modifié par Anomaly-, 17 juin 2010 - 06:12 .

[Gilsa]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

@ Gilsa. Your advice doesn't work with dog. It just has no personality whatsoever. It's either you like it from the start or you don't.
In fact, dog is my least favorite because I am indifferent to it.

Yeah, I can't help you there. If you have no experience with a dog, then it's hard to emphasize empathize with the joy that dog owners experience. It's kind of like being a parent -- it doesn't matter how someone tries to tell how how amazing it is to have a child, the joy that you can feel, blah blah blah, it will only hit you like a truck the moment you become a parent. No other way to truly understand. =p

For what it's worth, the mabari does have a very nice scene if he's in your group when Anora betrays you. He just growls and growls at her as she's trying to explain to Eamon. Otherwise, too few interactions with him, I agree.

Edit: Used the wrong word, sowwy.

Modifié par Gilsa, 17 juin 2010 - 05:31 .

[Gilsa]

@KoP -- Oh, the dog link also helped to endear me to Loghain. I really like how Loghain appreciates the value of the mabari and waxes poetic about the dog he used to have. His shining moment is in RtO if you did not get the dog originally. He basically sees the dog as a warrior and a friend. Alistair (my least favorite moment with him, unfortunately) just tells the dog to shed and drool somewhere over there. =/



My husband once told me that if I hadn't been an animal lover, he wouldn't have married me. His teenage cat was non-negotiable, heh.

[Anomaly-]

Gilsa wrote...

@KoP -- Oh, the dog link also helped to endear me to Loghain. I really like how Loghain appreciates the value of the mabari and waxes poetic about the dog he used to have. His shining moment is in RtO if you did not get the dog originally. He basically sees the dog as a warrior and a friend. Alistair (my least favorite moment with him, unfortunately) just tells the dog to shed and drool somewhere over there. =/

I actually never experienced that. I never thought something could make me like Loghain, but that almost does it.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Dog also makes Sten seem more personable and sympathetic. But dg's value here is revealing more about the other characters and not really itself, if that makes sense.

I am not saying I dislike dog. I am just mostly indifferent. If the mabari was a cat, that would have been different lol.

[Swoo]

Wynne. Such a preachy little git, and then she gets creeeeeepy come RtO time. It was so worth sparing Loghain just to see him pull the STFU card on her every...single...dialogue.

[Anomaly-]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Dog also makes Sten seem more personable and sympathetic. But dg's value here is revealing more about the other characters and not really itself, if that makes sense.

That does make sense, but its also something I find very accurate. I've always thought you can tell a lot you wouldn't other realize about a person by the way they view/interact with animals. Still, I certainly wouldn't complain if Dog had more of his own character shown and interacted with.

[Gilsa]

Swoo wrote...

Wynne. Such a preachy little git, and then she gets creeeeeepy come RtO time. It was so worth sparing Loghain just to see him pull the STFU card on her every...single...dialogue.

Yeah, that Alistair/Wynne is just completely oddball. If you take her to RtO without Alistair or Loghain, she's perfectly fine. I didn't find her to be sanctimonious, tbh.

Edit: Plus she dotes on the mabari and wants to name it Rabbit so she still gets points in my book if nothing else.

Modifié par Gilsa, 17 juin 2010 - 06:42 .

[Sarah1281]

She wants to name a dog Rabbit? Okay, she just lost some in mine.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

She wants to name a dog Rabbit? Okay, she just lost some in mine.

Ditto.

[Erani]

I can't stand Oghren. He is shallow, rude, and I just hate him. Still wouldn't kill him if given the chance. Wynne gets annoying sometimes, same for chantry-loving Leliana. However, the character I hate the most, totally despise, is Isolde.

[Miri1984]

Wynne annoys me the most, although part of me likes her too and I always have her in my party because she's a healer.. I'm over getting her personal quest though - having to sit through all that dialogue annoys the crap out of me.



Also.. not overly fond of Leliana, although she doesn't offend me as such.



I never have Sten or Oghren in my party until the end of the game when I spend about three hours in Orzammar running up and down outside the proving to trigger all the dialogues I love. My party make up is all about the gameplay rather than the characters, I must admit. So I always have Alistair, a rogue and a healer. The healer is either my PC or Wynne, the rogue is either my PC or Leliana/Zevran.

[ArawnNox]

Hmm... every character has their merits and flaws. Of the party, it's hard for me to decide. I haven't given Zevran a fair shake yet, unless you're overtly flirting with him, it's hard to get him to open up. In his defense, I hear he get's quite touching

Alistair... well, he's a decent guy, but he's just so... unassertive... the more I play the game the more I want to slap him across the face and tell him to "man-up". I've lost close loved ones, but, damn, Alistair is so emotionally fragile its kind of pathetic to see in a warrior.

Oghren I really like. He doesn't care what anyone thinks and just does his thing. Call him shallow, but I think he just doesn't overcomplicate his own life. Though I got really annoyed at having to click on him several times to initiate dialogue. "ass-chaps" is funny only so many times.

Wynn I really liked for a while. Her speeches didn't come off as patronizing or preachy. However, I've come to really be annoyed by her as she projects her own ideas of leadership/goodness onto the main character. I mean, your character can have a bit of an existential crisis and she can be there to keep you centered, but so much of her chatter is "I think a Grey Warden is supposed to be this idealized thing and I expect you do live up to my naive preconceptions."

Dog... is a dog...

I like Sten, he's complex and isn't forthcoming with what it means to be Qunari. It's refreshing when so many other NPCs wont stop giving you setting exposition. Once you've got a handle on Sten's mode of thinking, its easy to make his approval shoot through the roof.

Morrigan is a complex character. I don't particularly like her, though, because her morality scale is all over the place. It's harder than trying to get influence with frikken Kreia. She does have a soft side that gets to come out when you befriend her, though. And through all that, she has ulterior motives, which only makes her more interesting as a character.

At last, there's Lelianna, the infamous "romance ninja". I like her. She has a complicated history, is trying to make up for her checkered past, and has personal convictions that run contrary to the dogma of the Chantry.

Ah, I forgot Shale. Shale I like if for no other reason than the snarky banter you can have with her. Her personal quest for her memories is pretty cool too, though I wish it would trigger in the Deep Roads rather than back at camp.