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The Guilt Of Darkspawn Chronicles (spoilers)


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hyperion02

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Well, I decided to buy the DC DLC yesterday. Overall I
really enjoyed it, and would recommend it to anyone.

With that said, when I played Origins, I put 50+ hours into all the characters
I know and love. I fought along-side Alistair as we slay the High Dragon. I
also was his support when he met up with his sister. I understood Lileanna's
anguish when she looked at Marjolaine in the eyes after running from her. Oghren
and I spent many-a-good night in camp cracking jokes and drinking.

I could go on, but you can understand that I developed a relationship to every
character. They weren’t just allies, but friends that I often went out of my
way to protect and make happy. When I played Origins, there was about 50% time
for fighting for every 50% I took to socialize, learn, develop, and improve my
group.

In Darkspawn Chronicles, it is 100% brutal, bloody, ass-kicking violence.
Everything died and burned, and never a word was said. I often even killed my
own kin if it meant I could recruit someone stronger. I was ok with this. I
felt like an emotionless liking machine. I was dominating... That is till I saw
Oghren... Then killed Oghren.

I had to stop. I just killed Oghren. It sunk in like I just killed someone who
was dear to me. I had to shake off the emotion. Then I continued. Later, I saw
Wynne. My first thought, "She is a mage, so that means she is powerful but
squishy. I need to kill her first." Again, I had to stop and think. Did I
really just plot to kill Wynne?

This was the feeling I had as I encountered every friend of the Warden.

If, lets say, I was playing the exact same game, and all the names were changed,
and faces different, this would have been a completely emotionless game. I
would have gone in, kicked ass, felt invincible, and left feeling all powerful.
Right now, I just feel powerful, demented, and somewhat perverse.

Thoughts?

Modifié par hyperion02, 17 juin 2010 - 07:34 .


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The only reason I bought it was to watch Leliana and Alistair die. I didn't feel anything but pure joy when they died. Felt bad for Morrigan, Dog, Wynne, and Oghren though. Felt nothing when Sten and Zevran died.

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Heh, I know what you mean, hyperion02 - and the end cutscene with Alistair was just tragic. I actually found DC a lot more fun than I thought I would. It took me a while to get into it, but it was shockingly fun to play. There is an element of guilt to it that you get from killing characters you love, whichever those happen to be. It's also interesting to see the choices that would have been made without you, and indeed whether there was any group of companiosnw ithout you to tie them together. I mean, I think Alistair's party was only Leliana, Morrigan and his beloved Barkspawn.

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I am glad I didnt waste any money on it. Seriously Leliana's song had better be worth. I played DSC on my friends Xbox and hated it.

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I actually enjoyed DC. After all, DA is all about roleplaying and assuming different roles. In DC you're a bloodthirsty darkspawn, and you're able to play this role exactly as you'd imagine it.



In the final cutscene with Alistair I've actually expected my Ogre and Shriek to cheer, or express their appreciation in some other way, but bastards just ignored that I'm about to slaughter our main enemy. Other than that, DLC was fine.

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I wish the codexes would have given us more of an idea of how things turned out that way.

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PunkNouveau13

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I was a bit misty eyed when I killed Barkspawn tbh
He was my special guy!:crying:

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Despite the fact I love all the Origins companions,I only felt terrible when I killed Sten and I have no idea why.
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I'm not gonna play it. The guilt would kill me. ^^;

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Didn't get the DLC and surprisingly enough, seeing pictures of dead companions didn't bother me until I saw one of Gorim, who is easily my favorite character in all of DAO. He pretty much put the final nail in the coffin in whether or not I'd try this DLC out. I guess it was because I already had expectations of people in the party dying and probably steeled myself mentally, but Gorim was a surprise and thus got me in the emotional gut.

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Gilsa wrote...

Didn't get the DLC and surprisingly enough, seeing pictures of dead companions didn't bother me until I saw one of Gorim, who is easily my favorite character in all of DAO. He pretty much put the final nail in the coffin in whether or not I'd try this DLC out. I guess it was because I already had expectations of people in the party dying and probably steeled myself mentally, but Gorim was a surprise and thus got me in the emotional gut.

I know! Just how could we possibly be expected to do that? Posted Image

At least he dies fighting.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

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Haven't downloaded it, and won't, either.



Leliana's song, however, I would be happy to download....ONCE BIOWARE PATCHES THEIR **** UPS IN ORIGINS AND AWAKENINGS!

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hyperion02

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I am also curious how the developers felt about creating this. Imean, was it difficult to build a game that slaughters their creation so quickly?

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I dont think David Gaider liked it to much, judging by some of his comments I read.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont think David Gaider liked it to much, judging by some of his comments I read.


Really? Got any links? I always like to hear his opiinion.

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I was expecting me to feel guilty and sad, but felt nothing. Everyone died too fast. I felt bad only when my darkspawn killed Alistair and I turned away not to watch the cutscene. (Of course later I found out that Alistair was cheating on my dead PC with Leliana and now I hate them both and will never romance them again. Traitors!) And before that - when my evil bastards were fighting Cullen and Greagoir (Wynne was killed by my shriek so fast that I didn't notice it). My favourite origin is mage's and those guys were like a family, even though Greg always hated my PCs.

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I would feel guilty if I bought DC as well :P, But I didnt so im saved lol

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hyperion02 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont think David Gaider liked it to much, judging by some of his comments I read.


Really? Got any links? I always like to hear his opiinion.


Its pretty aparent that the writers dont like a lot of the DLC outside of WC or Stone Prisoner since they didnt write it or the dialouge. RtO for example has Wynne flat out flirting with Alistair just for a laugh, but the writers who wrote both of them said that it was OOC for the both of them. Besides if you wrote a bunch of charachters how would you feel if all your work was just there to get slaughtered?

I wll try to find but that is going to really require some backtracking.

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hyperion02 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I dont think David Gaider liked it to much, judging by some of his comments I read.

Really? Got any links? I always like to hear his opiinion.

DG never commented on Darkspawn Chronicles, he commented on the Slap Morrigan Mod.

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Galagraphia wrote...
(Of course later I found out that Alistair was cheating on my dead PC with Leliana and now I hate them both and will never romance them again. Traitors!)

How could he possibly be cheating? He didn't even know your PC. :D

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klarabella wrote...

Galagraphia wrote...
(Of course later I found out that Alistair was cheating on my dead PC with Leliana and now I hate them both and will never romance them again. Traitors!)

How could he possibly be cheating? He didn't even know your PC. :D


Dont tell that to the Alisterites since even in death their PC's ghost will so influence Alistair that he would stay single forever to honor their memory.

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DC is a really worthless DLC.

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I felt MUCH pity when killing Connor with my evil character in Origins!! I just about lost my humanity that night..



But when I was tearing down all those in DC, I really really lost it there; so bad that I completed the series JUST before killing the Archdemon with my redone good char; couldn't finish my playthrough with DC :(



Alistair, Leliana, Wynne, Morrigan, Barkspawn (Dog), and somewhat Oghren had most certainly broken my heart, as well as killing Teagan.



Sten and Zevran, on the other hand, were not on my remorse list, even though Zevran is definitely a good friend in my book. It was really Sten that I celebrated over. NOW if they put Shale in the game, that would be awesome! I have NO remorse for that she-muscleheaded cynic! lol

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Posted Image this part truly got me to feel like crap after I had to kill them both :(

The rest I didn't mind killing.

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Whew. So I'm not the only one with this complex. Thought everyone was a DarkChron fan but me (though the thread is 3yrs old, so maybe the player base has indeed changed). I got the DLC automatically, but I'll never play it for these reasons- just not what I'm up for doing after playing every game to (pickpocket and) save the world. One of a few "awards" I'll never pick up. I don't like Sister Sister Sister Alistair either, but I don't feel like killing everyone else and tainting all Ferelden to watch him die a cruel death.

Notable though that different writers than Gaider's staff wrote this DLC and RtO. I can see why on DarkCron given how little went into it content-wise- purportedly- but why let some outside team tackle Ostagar of all places, much less the various companions? Both DLCs have done something to change or add to the official game lore- something only Gaider's team seems in a position to do apprpriately.