Is it possible in Dragon Age to have these "robes", that you carry over your normal clothing?
Just asking :-).
Modifié par AfterDune, 17 juin 2010 - 08:00 .
"Robes" (non-mage ones)
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 07:59
AfterDune
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I'm not sure if "robe" is the correct word for it. Here, let me show you an example (screenshot from Sacred Ashes trailer):
Is it possible in Dragon Age to have these "robes", that you carry over your normal clothing?
Just asking :-).
Is it possible in Dragon Age to have these "robes", that you carry over your normal clothing?
Just asking :-).
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 09:57
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errr im going with... its probably possible but it might not look so great.
Presumably youd equip it in you helmet slot i guess? Im fairly sure you can have a helmet (or any other item) that uses all of the bones in the skeleton, which, if done properly would allow it to move, seemingly on top of the armour.
There would likely be a fair bit of awkward stretching - cloaks look much better on games that use gravity and collision to allow the cloaks to "drop" onto the armour. Here you'd be stretching it with the bone animation which would look unnatural. For me this is the biggest turn-off.
An additional obstacle is the wide range of armour shapes available. If you placed the cloak such that it avoided collision with all armours including massive armour shoulder plates, it would sit way off the shoulders and hang most unnaturally if you didnt have massive armour equipped.
It might be possible with scripting to check for the "shape" of the armour and have several cloak models which better match a given shape. when the player changes equipment, the cloak could be destroyed and replaced by one with a more suitable model.
The best way to avoid the problems above are to have more of a "cowl and cape" than "full cloak". Tie the hood at the front to the body/armour in a way that explains its lack of movement, and avoid having it over too much of the shoulder so that the arms would not ordinarily move it. a short cape would explain the lack of movement as the player ran. Imagine Ezio from Assassin's Creed, except without the flowing cape. It kinda loses something...
I would suggest experimentation before you put too much time into modelling and rigging the model to the bones.
Presumably youd equip it in you helmet slot i guess? Im fairly sure you can have a helmet (or any other item) that uses all of the bones in the skeleton, which, if done properly would allow it to move, seemingly on top of the armour.
There would likely be a fair bit of awkward stretching - cloaks look much better on games that use gravity and collision to allow the cloaks to "drop" onto the armour. Here you'd be stretching it with the bone animation which would look unnatural. For me this is the biggest turn-off.
An additional obstacle is the wide range of armour shapes available. If you placed the cloak such that it avoided collision with all armours including massive armour shoulder plates, it would sit way off the shoulders and hang most unnaturally if you didnt have massive armour equipped.
It might be possible with scripting to check for the "shape" of the armour and have several cloak models which better match a given shape. when the player changes equipment, the cloak could be destroyed and replaced by one with a more suitable model.
The best way to avoid the problems above are to have more of a "cowl and cape" than "full cloak". Tie the hood at the front to the body/armour in a way that explains its lack of movement, and avoid having it over too much of the shoulder so that the arms would not ordinarily move it. a short cape would explain the lack of movement as the player ran. Imagine Ezio from Assassin's Creed, except without the flowing cape. It kinda loses something...
I would suggest experimentation before you put too much time into modelling and rigging the model to the bones.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 10:43
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There seems to be "cloak" slot definition in the game source files but it appears it was cut for some reason, perhaps either lack of time or it was too difficult to make it look any good? But tbh i don't get the fascination with capes in the first place, so wasn't inclined to look into it.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 05:13
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ah interesting. my guess is cut because it would have looked decidedly last-gen. or gen before that. 
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Posté 18 juin 2010 - 06:40
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Thanks for the reply mikemike37, I think you're right and it would probably look less good than we would hope. Who knows, perhaps in the future...
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Posté 18 juin 2010 - 04:25
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Yeah, capes would be a really cool thing, I'd go for it... If only there weren't so many pproblems :/ ...
