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If you await around by him he'll talk to himself about wanting to meet a girl.


Asking him about it will basically reveal that he's paying the Pearl to get him an underaged girl.

You can call him a sick bastard and his guards will agree but unfortunately, there's no way to kill or punish him for it.

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What is 'of age' in Ferelden, anyway?

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Sarah1281 wrote...

What is 'of age' in Ferelden, anyway?


16?

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That would make that even creepier...

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I have no idea, but I still find Kaitlyn/Teagan creepy. He must be at least twice her age.



But maybe it was just me that got that vibe from her.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

I have no idea, but I still find Kaitlyn/Teagan creepy. He must be at least twice her age.

But maybe it was just me that got that vibe from her.

If she's young enough that unless you give her money she'll get sent to a freaking orphanage and he's only a few years younger than Eamon then yes, yes it is very creepy.

Edit: If they had to tack on a Redcliffe romance I wish they would have chosen Bella instead. She, at least, was without a doubt of age.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 17 juin 2010 - 11:20 .


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WTF is Master Tilver?

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

WTF is Master Tilver?


A guy you steal from in the Crime Wave quest line.

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Oh, him? Srsly?



Maybe in the future I'll see if there is an option to attack him and kill him instead.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Oh, him? Srsly?

Maybe in the future I'll see if there is an option to attack him and kill him instead.

The OP said he couldn't find a way to.

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Sounds like a Mod is needed to bash his teeth in.


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Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

I have no idea, but I still find Kaitlyn/Teagan creepy. He must be at least twice her age.

But maybe it was just me that got that vibe from her.

If she's young enough that unless you give her money she'll get sent to a freaking orphanage and he's only a few years younger than Eamon then yes, yes it is very creepy. 

Not really different from Eamon and Isolde though. I think someone did the math and concluded she must've been reeeeally young when he was the dashing rebel that made her fall in love with him while trying to kick her family back to Orlais etc? Image IPB

edit: also, Kaitlyn is said to be 18 in the Toolset though the usual remarks apply to that.

Modifié par tmp7704, 18 juin 2010 - 12:15 .


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Herr Uhl

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How old was Eamon during the rebellions anyways?

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Weren't Eamon and Teagan 15 and 8 and sent abroad so they wouldn't be involved?

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Weren't Eamon and Teagan 15 and 8 and sent abroad so they wouldn't be involved?

Not sure; if that's the case it'd kind of contradict Codex entry for Isolde, though:

The arling of Redcliffe was a source of constant trouble for Emperor Reville during the occupation; it was rumored that since each new report sent the emperor into a fit of violent rage, his court had taken to poisoning messengers before they could deliver their accounts. Isolde's family was the tenth to be given the difficult task of governing Redcliffe, and since most of the previous arls had either been murdered by their banns or beheaded by the emperor, they did not approach the job with a great deal of enthusiasm.
Isolde met Eamon, not realizing he was the rightful heir to her father's domain, and quickly became smitten with him for being part of the resistance--never mind that it was her family he was resisting. Perhaps a bit too romantic for her own good, she insisted upon staying behind with Eamon when the rest of her family was driven out.



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How old is Isolde? I would guess at the same age as Teagan.

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From the DA wiki...

Eamon presumably spent most of his childhood in Redcliffe. When his father Arl Rendorn Guerrin joined the rebellion he was sent together with his brother Teagan to relatives in the north. When their father perished in the battle at West Hill Eamon was 15 years old. It can be assumed that when Meghren the usurper was defeated a few years later, King Maric Theirin recalled Eamon from the north and restored him as the rightful Arl of Redcliffe.

I'm pretty sure that this was in TST. Maybe Eamon met Isolde before his father joined the rebellion?

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Herr Uhl wrote...

How old is Isolde? I would guess at the same age as Teagan.

She is 10 years younger (than Eamon) according to the Toolset -- he's 45, she's 35.

The timeline can be sort of arranged if you presume that some of Orlesian nobles stayed around in Ferelden for some time after the war concluded. Say, a few years more (i think the Orlesian noblewoman who was employing Leliana's mother didn't return immediately, either) ... that would give Eamon time to reach age of 20-odd or so when he was the resistance and Isolde would be then uhmm 12-13? Image IPB

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tmp7704 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

How old is Isolde? I would guess at the same age as Teagan.

She is 10 years younger (than Eamon) according to the Toolset -- he's 45, she's 35.

The timeline can be sort of arranged if you presume that some of Orlesian nobles stayed around in Ferelden for some time after the war concluded. Say, a few years more (i think the Orlesian noblewoman who was employing Leliana's mother didn't return immediately, either) ... that would give Eamon time to reach age of 20-odd or so when he was the resistance and Isolde would be then uhmm 12-13? Image IPB


Maybe the feelings weren't mutual back then.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Maybe the feelings weren't mutual back then.

Possible. It could also be we're overestimating the age considered normal for them to marry. It wasn't that unusual for women to be married off at 14 y.o. or even less back then from what i've read, it was the males who were supposed to marry quite a bit older becaues they were supposed to then fend for the new family.

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But Isolde wouldn't have been married off since it seems that both families weren't pleased by the pairing.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Maybe the feelings weren't mutual back then.

Possible. It could also be we're overestimating the age considered normal for them to marry. It wasn't that unusual for women to be married off at 14 y.o. or even less back then from what i've read, it was the males who were supposed to marry quite a bit older becaues they were supposed to then fend for the new family.

Yup. But I don't think that this franchise adopts all the old customs. Pedophilia being accepted would be taking it pretty far.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

But Isolde wouldn't have been married off since it seems that both families weren't pleased by the pairing.

It's pretty odd actually, the Toolset for her says the marriage with Eamon was "a marriage of convenience, and she has never been happy about her situation". I wonder if maybe her backstory was changed mid-development and so it's not completely coherent.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Weren't Eamon and Teagan 15 and 8 and sent abroad so they wouldn't be involved?


Yes.  Eamon was 15 & Teagan was 8 when their father was killed during the rebellion.  They were sent north to the Free Marshes during the rebellion.   It took 3 more years for Maric to take the throne back.  The game takes place about 30 years after Orlesian rule.

So, Kaitlyn is much younger than Teagan. 

If the toolset is correct about Isolde's age, she would have been quite young when she married Eamon.  However, the toolset frequently does not match the timeline; so, I wouldn't put too much faith in its accuracy.

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Considering how much Dragon Age playing ladies *sqeee* over Bann Teagan I should think he could probably pick and choose among young women throwing themselves at his feet. I mean the PC is supposed to be what 20-25? People are modding to get Teagan as LI and bed mate at the Pearl and what not. I don't see anyone complaining about his age...