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[langelog]

I have had this argument with friends and would like to see what the forum thinks about it. If you romance the human LI in ME1 and later decide to have a new romance in ME2, is it cheating? This is my argument; No, because Shep has been away for 2 years with no contact to the ME1 LI, the LI has moved on with their life believing Shep is gone. Although Shep is reunited with the LI on Harvest, I would hardly call their reunion romantic. Shep recieves an icy reception from the LI and is labled a traitor to the Alliance, both Shep and the LI part ways again and both are pissed! Once you are back aboard the Normandy, you will have the option to have a chat with Yeoman Chambers, she will ask if you have strong feelings for the ME1 LI, Shep has the option to say "what we had is in the past now" this sounds like a breakup to me. The only argument I've gotten back is the fact that the ME1 LI apologizes to Shep via desktop message.  I hope this doesn't count as a spoiler, I apologize if it is and I ask to be redirected to a forum where I can post this if that becomes a problem.  I would just like to know your thoughts, thankyou.

[nikki191]

to me its only cheating if the individual atempted to conceal the action, if evryone involved knows and is ok with it then its fine. like most things its not the action that matters its the intent of the action

[langelog]

Thanks, that is one of the points I was trying to tell my friend, I wasn't purposley cheating for the sake of cheating, I assumed the romance with the previous LI was over and decided to move on.

[jlb524]

CHEATER!!!

[langelog]

jlb524 wrote...

CHEATER!!!

Thanks, now that's just the kind of support I was looking for...

[jlb524]

langelog wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

CHEATER!!!

Thanks, now that's just the kind of support I was looking for...

I will not support your cheating ways!

[LorDC]

Imo it depends on (a)how you define "cheating" and ( can you define ME2 prologue events as "breaking up". Matter of semantics only.

[langelog]

LorDC brings up a good point, consider it duly noted. My def of cheating is dishonorably hiding your actions when you are activley involved in relationship, I wouldn't call that relationship 'active' nor would I call it a relationship at all at that point, and from what is said in ME2 I do believe the previous relationship is in the past and hopefully I won't have to deal with an episode of Jerry Springer come ME3. Miri and Ash goin at it, some would actually pay to see that.

Modifié par langelog, 18 juin 2010 - 07:40 .

[langelog]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The game doesn't allow you to break up with your ME1 LI.  Unless you consider the ME1 LI's picture disappearing after a romantic scene in the end of ME2, a breakup.  You can't talk to the ME1 LI about you're relationship.

It is similar in how the game doesn't allow you to arrest Rana Thanoptis or Shiala.  You have to kill them or let them go.

In that context, I don't think "cheating" on your LI really exists in the ME universe.  The game doesn't seem to work that way.  Bioware is just giving you the option to go with another LI, and nothing more.   

That is my opinion anyway.

That's what I had thought too, especially since Bioware allows you to pursue multiple romances in ME2. Ending it with one and trying a romance with another, and nobody seems to care.

[Bluko]

Shepard:"Can't I have you both?"

[Massadonious1]

Cheater, cheater pumpkin eater.

[langelog]

Bluko wrote...

Shepard:"Can't I have you both?"

lol, If only this were true, definitley one of my favorite moments in ME1

[ChanceRandom]

On my MaleShep I was with Ashley and with my FemShep I was with Liara. In both cases I had gotten to them before any romance was established with any of the new crew, and both of them blow you off so I dont consider it cheating. Btw, in ME3, I hope I get to tell Ashley to go **** herself after her little tantrum on Horizon, I dont care if she apologized later, that was just cold.

[tmk]

It would make most sense if pursuing a ME2 romance would just mean you can't resume the original romance in ME3. A scandal/catfight scene would be a bit silly, especially since the game flags it as romance if you so much as say hello to somebody.

[iamsaige]

Bluko wrote...

Shepard:"Can't I have you both?"

I swear when maleshep smiles he looks like such a douche.

[Christmas Ape]

On the one hand, if someone were dead for two years I'm fairly sure I'd mourn them and eventually move on, particularly given we only spent about three months together.

On the other hand - Shepard has been dead for those two years. No progression of time. You wake up from being a corpse and within a couple weeks you've got someone else in your bed/engineering deck? It could seem a little cold.

But then, Horizon sure sounds like a break-up to me, "Oh wait Shepard's awesome and I want them back" email notwithstanding.

[Whailor]

Bah, cheating. Human isn't meant to spend his life with just one partner anyway, after few years it kinda grows stale. But other then this, I see no cheating in ME2. Shepard was dead, all - even the LI - considered him dead and they moved on. So now when he's back things are different. Heck you can even say that from female chars in the game Tali is probably only one who still loved Shepard as such, to others he was already space dust (can't say about male chars as I don't play female Shepard). So no problem with either moving on a new LI or getting together with your "true LI" Tali, who's been taken in for all this time, even those two years when Shepard was gone.

[Ecael]

OP's justification:

Modifié par Ecael, 18 juin 2010 - 12:08 .

[heretica]

Christmas Ape wrote...

On the one hand, if someone were dead for two years I'm fairly sure I'd mourn them and eventually move on, particularly given we only spent about three months together.
On the other hand - Shepard has been dead for those two years. No progression of time. You wake up from being a corpse and within a couple weeks you've got someone else in your bed/engineering deck? It could seem a little cold.
But then, Horizon sure sounds like a break-up to me, "Oh wait Shepard's awesome and I want them back" email notwithstanding.

Only 3 months? I think the romance part also counts. I don't think the relationship begins when they jump each other before Ilos.

[Christmas Ape]

Catt128 wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

On the one hand, if someone were dead for two years I'm fairly sure I'd mourn them and eventually move on, particularly given we only spent about three months together.
On the other hand - Shepard has been dead for those two years. No progression of time. You wake up from being a corpse and within a couple weeks you've got someone else in your bed/engineering deck? It could seem a little cold.
But then, Horizon sure sounds like a break-up to me, "Oh wait Shepard's awesome and I want them back" email notwithstanding.

Only 3 months? I think the romance part also counts. I don't think the relationship begins when they jump each other before Ilos.

That's why it's not two months. How long do you figure you're dogging Saren around the galaxy, a year? The main plot of both games strikes me as about a two-week affair, but you can accomplish most of the game in one calendar day, as far as the internal timekeeping goes.
Mass Effect - It's Always Armistice Day.

[tmk]

Whailor wrote...
Shepard was dead, all - even the LI - considered him dead and they moved on. So now when he's back things are different. Heck you can even say that from female chars in the game Tali is probably only one who still loved Shepard as such, to others he was already space dust

Yea, well, other than Liara, who risked her own life just to recover that space dust.

[Cyberfrog81]

We've been led to believe that the ME1 LIs will have a problem with it if Shepard finds someone new. They don't seem to have moved on in the sense that they're over Shepard.



As for Liara... You're basically just Liara's errand boy after the initial greeting. She is all business, no time for romance. Still, she isn't nearly as dismissive as Ashley/Kaidan.

[Zack56]

Is it wrong to hope for a cat fight between Liara and Tali? If so, I don't want to be right.

[sammcl]

I don't think they'll address it as cheating, probably just more bitterness like on Horizon, maybe the ME1 LI won't join your squad if they still have feelings for you and you've moved on with someone from ME2. Or maybe they'll join you but refuse to chat on the Normandy, or be incapable of becoming loyal, so many possibilities but a cat fight seems a bit retarded considering the circumstances.