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[Arttis]

without stealing i can not afford everything i want.!!!!

You would think that hours spent stealing and waiting for the skill to cooldown would give some nice rewards.

[dragonsouce]

ladydesire wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

XonDK82 wrote...

I'm still hoping for the steal/dog find bug getting fixed

any ETA on this patch?

Not only is this not a game-breaker, it's already "fixed" (
although not officially "patched") via Community mods such
Surango's excellent one found here:  http://social.bioware.
com/project/2335/#files

I'd prefer Bioware focus their time to fix the stuff the
community can't (e.g. CtDs, broken plot flags and event
triggers/dialogue branches.)  Only after it "works" right should
they try to get *everything" working right.

So Bioware should ignore the console players just because some bugs can be fixed for PC users? I'd much rather they fixed as much as they can, since I refuse to use community fixes since console players don't have that option.

There not just some bugs we are talking about crashing my 2000.00 dollar PC anytime I try to run the game. Do not try and make this PC vs Console.This is about a Major error that can cost up to 3 grand for some people. I have not been able to play at all in 4 months.

[Feraele]

dragonsouce wrote...

ladydesire wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

XonDK82 wrote...

I'm still hoping for the steal/dog find bug getting fixed

any ETA on this patch?

Not only is this not a game-breaker, it's already "fixed" (
although not officially "patched") via Community mods such
Surango's excellent one found here:  http://social.bioware.
com/project/2335/#files

I'd prefer Bioware focus their time to fix the stuff the
community can't (e.g. CtDs, broken plot flags and event
triggers/dialogue branches.)  Only after it "works" right should
they try to get *everything" working right.

So Bioware should ignore the console players just because some bugs can be fixed for PC users? I'd much rather they fixed as much as they can, since I refuse to use community fixes since console players don't have that option.

There not just some bugs we are talking about crashing my 2000.00 dollar PC anytime I try to run the game. Do not try and make this PC vs Console.This is about a Major error that can cost up to 3 grand for some people. I have not been able to play at all in 4 months.

I have a 2500 dollar machine as well, have created 22 characters, I play all the dlcs, and the expansion.   DA works pretty good,  despite the errors, glitches, bugs, and crashes to desktop.     I am not sure how that is going to cost you 3000 dollars...unless you take a baseball bat to your machine and keyboard?

Repairs to computers don't cost 3000 dollars, if they are estimated to be that much (which frankly I have never seen yet,  since 1988)  you might want to purchase a new one instead.  

Just saying.   ^^

[Feraele]

BrunoB1971 wrote...

again off topic....i was preparing my game,

reinstalling origins and then i tried to apply patch 1.03, the dos screen came up to verify my game amd it was trucking along then out of the blue my pc just restarted. I was doign this yesterday and i thought i had a bad hard drive so i installed another and re-installed the os...windows 7 64 bits...brand spanking new..yet again when i tried to update, it crashed my pc...i restarted again and tried and that time it went...but i am not 100% sure if it did not affect the original install in a negative way...

i asked in the tech forum about this, no one seem to have an answer...i ll recheck my post....did this ever happen to you...no game i have ever owned crashed my pc like this....

Bruno how's your power source.  I am not a techie by any means, but the only times my computer has restarted on me, is when my power supply was dying. (happened to me twice over the years)    Just thought I'd mention.

[Feraele]

dragonsouce wrote...

Ok I bite wear this patch you guy are talking about?!?!?! Just checked

http://social.biowar...page/da-patches

Newest there is Evil incarnate I mean patch 1.03 . What it called Wear be this legend? Wear do I download the PC patch??????

And why is it not on http://social.biowar...age/da-patches  ?

We are getting weekly updates (once a week) on what they currently have fixed and they will let us know when the patch is finally done and ready to be released.   I suspect we will also have a wait, as the new patch has to pass inspection through the Microsoft and Sony certification processes.    It all takes time for sure.

Modifié par Feraele, 21 juin 2010 - 09:16 .

[ladydesire]

dragonsouce wrote...


There not just some bugs we are talking about crashing my 2000.00 dollar PC anytime I try to run the game. Do not try and make this PC vs Console.This is about a Major error that can cost up to 3 grand for some people. I have not been able to play at all in 4 months.

I'm aware that there are serious issues on PC, even though I haven't experienced them. If you'll read the first post again, you'll see that Bioware has been working on the problem and has several fixes for game crashes ready for this patch; what I was saying is that PC users shouldn't ignore that other players have issues and tell Bioware to "let the modders handle some of the bugs" to make patch release faster.

[Wicked 702]

I'm very much hoping that last week's update wasn't the final one. There's so many more issues that need addressing. Another few weeks worth of fixes would definitely be worth the wait if they are going to make as much of a significant game change as that which has been already announced. Keeping my fingers crossed for all platforms....

[T0rtura]

Ok, I´m tired to restart the game each 5 min of playing... These crashes are making me giving up this game...



Is there anything I can do to reduce these crash to desktop a little?

[Squeelookle]

You could do what I did.

I was seriously plugging the graphics card by running everything at full (aside from textures, which was set to high as supposed to Very high) and it ws CtDing on me all through Orzammar.

What I did was decrease the graphical quality a bit. I changed Graphics detail down to High and Texture Detail down to Medium. It doesn't look as good this way, but at least it minimises the crashing.

[joey_mork84]

Feraele wrote...

BrunoB1971 wrote...

again off topic....i was preparing my game,

reinstalling origins and then i tried to apply patch 1.03, the dos screen came up to verify my game amd it was trucking along then out of the blue my pc just restarted. I was doign this yesterday and i thought i had a bad hard drive so i installed another and re-installed the os...windows 7 64 bits...brand spanking new..yet again when i tried to update, it crashed my pc...i restarted again and tried and that time it went...but i am not 100% sure if it did not affect the original install in a negative way...

i asked in the tech forum about this, no one seem to have an answer...i ll recheck my post....did this ever happen to you...no game i have ever owned crashed my pc like this....

Bruno how's your power source.  I am not a techie by any means, but the only times my computer has restarted on me, is when my power supply was dying. (happened to me twice over the years)    Just thought I'd mention.

Fera's right. This sounds very much like a power supply problem. New ones can be found on just about any PC hardware site for cheap or at a PC repair shop. Just be sure to get the right specs for it.

[adammkhuevrr]

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but what about the inconsistency between the epilogue and journal? It would say that some characters died while fighting for Vigil's Keep, but then in the epilogue it said they were fine. (I got the The Enduring Vigil achievement, so the Keep survived)

[WonderGamer]

Arttis wrote...

without stealing i can not afford everything i want.!!!!
You would think that hours spent stealing and waiting for the skill to cooldown would give some nice rewards.

There is something called fighting for your money (which is how most games work); this can be done through random encounters.  I do agree that stealing may be the only way to do it in the early parts of the game (withoug cheating), however.

Zy-El wrote...

Steal/Dog find bug is a minor bug - it won't cripple your character or prevent you from finishing the game.

While I agree stealing is not game-breaking, it was only part of the reason why I reverted back to 1.02a; the other reason was DLC issues.  DLC issues may not be game-breaking (most of them anyways), but I don't particularly like losing equipment that I payed for (with real money) at certain parts of the game when the bug was previously fixed.  Another bug that I found annoying & could be considered game-breaking (although was workable by avoiding certain dialog options & making sure the main character was active while talking to triggering NPCs) was the character placement bugs.  I've heard a number of people complaining about this happening with Shale, but I was having the problem in the Dwarven Noble storyline also.

Modifié par WonderGamer, 22 juin 2010 - 12:15 .

[Wicked 702]

WonderGamer wrote...

Arttis wrote...

without stealing i can not afford everything i want.!!!!
You would think that hours spent stealing and waiting for the skill to cooldown would give some nice rewards.

There is something called fighting for your money (which is how most games work); this can be done through random encounters.  I do agree that stealing may be the only way to do it in the early parts of the game (withoug cheating), however.

There are no random encounters in DA:O. The vast majority are scripted, the remainder occur as a result of a percentage chance occurance while roaming the world map. Eventually, you can and WILL kill everything there is to kill. After that there's no more enemies. So no, your assertion is wrong.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 22 juin 2010 - 12:46 .

[switzki]

Thandal NLyman wrote...
I'd prefer Bioware focus their time to fix the stuff the community can't (e.g. CtDs, broken plot flags and event triggers/dialogue branches.)  Only after it "works" right should they try to get *everything" working right.

Quoting myself from a previous thread:
Speaking as one of the tens of thousands of Xbox 360 and PS3 players who have no access to community mods, I'd prefer that BioWare address scripting defects directly (and officially). It's not the community's responsibility to patch the game, regardless of platform. That said, prioritizing errors by game impact and fixing the most serious ones first is a perfectly understandable strategy. I don't expect the game to be flawless, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect calculations to be accurate (e.g. dagger damage) and item attributes to be functional (e.g. +healing, set bonuses) and character skills to work (e.g. stealing) without third-party modification, especially since it's been nearly 8 months since the game was released.

[BLunted]

Victor Wachter wrote...


• Daggers will now properly assign the dexterity-based damage bonus

That's great news, however, can you confirm if crossbows will be fixed as well?

[dragonsouce]

Feraele wrote...

dragonsouce wrote...

ladydesire wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

XonDK82 wrote...

I'm still hoping for the steal/dog find bug getting fixed

any ETA on this patch?

Not only is this not a game-breaker, it's already "fixed" (
although not officially "patched") via Community mods such
Surango's excellent one found here:  http://social.bioware.
com/project/2335/#files

I'd prefer Bioware focus their time to fix the stuff the
community can't (e.g. CtDs, broken plot flags and event
triggers/dialogue branches.)  Only after it "works" right should
they try to get *everything" working right.

So Bioware should ignore the console players just because some bugs can be fixed for PC users? I'd much rather they fixed as much as they can, since I refuse to use community fixes since console players don't have that option.

There not just some bugs we are talking about crashing my 2000.00 dollar PC anytime I try to run the game. Do not try and make this PC vs Console.This is about a Major error that can cost up to 3 grand for some people. I have not been able to play at all in 4 months.

I have a 2500 dollar machine as well, have created 22 characters, I play all the dlcs, and the expansion.   DA works pretty good,  despite the errors, glitches, bugs, and crashes to desktop.     I am not sure how that is going to cost you 3000 dollars...unless you take a baseball bat to your machine and keyboard?

Repairs to computers don't cost 3000 dollars, if they are estimated to be that much (which frankly I have never seen yet,  since 1988)  you might want to purchase a new one instead.  

Just saying.   ^^

OS Freezes and it dose not crash to desktop. It just would freeze. Only Power off would reset it. I have a very unhappy PC. Count your self luck your errors are minor mine and other like me suffer total system freeze. Three finger salute dose not work. Is that clear enough? I had  over 12 error on my hard drive. Turning the power off on your PC just not good business your Hard wear resents it. Not to mention that there was heat a Heat issue with the 1.03 patch a small one on my system but very bad on others people systems. Problems enough Yet? This PC has my files and busness contacts on it .Yep I work for living.I have a Morgage and am self employed. And why there backed up it would cost both money and time to rebuild my stuff. Not to mention Busness lost if my main PC Died.
On a personal note I got pitures of my dog on here that just died this week out blue with cancer ,one day wagging his tail three days later Dead. I will back that up soon and no intention of playing DAO but what if I had played this game with that stupid patch in it back then and my dog had just died? Those piture gone forever. Please stop This Stupid argument.

My point is a PC should not Freeze and crash at all due to this patch and for better or worse People depend on there PCs and they are a Investment in are lives Personal and Busness Lives. Just Crashing to desktop you are a lucky SOB my system freezes tries to overheat(all the fans turn on high) and will not reset till it's cold booted .(turned off with the power button) Lots people have this happen not just me and my PC . Check the other Forums if you do not beleave me. The 1.03 can and dose Freeze the OS and just turning the OS off at the power is incredibly Stupid and dangerous for your PC and unavoidable with this Glitch. Nothing else has crashed my PC no other game or App just this game,Not even to desktop since 7/13/2009.
Now if all you want to do is see how annoyed you can make me please Troll some wear else.

If you real can not see how turning off your Frozen PC is bad or how a broken PC cast you more than the price of a New Harddrive Grow up and get a Job wear you need one. Or better yet try and find one wear you do not.

As to why PC owners feel Bioware owes us a specail care the reason is simple the patch 1.03 was not tested a Windows 7 64 bit at all that was admitted to.  And it was supposed to and is quite unexcuseable. They Tested Console but  yet It was supposed to run on 64 bit windows 7 the original game was tested on that platform yet the patch was not. So you tell me dose Bioware owe me a Apology[/i]? Dose it Owe PC uses a none damaging tested patch? Should it prioritize a fix for the 64 bit owners they ignored and the system they damaged? Should they try and fix what they did?

Modifié par dragonsouce, 22 juin 2010 - 02:12 .

[joey_mork84]

Quite the rant there, bud.. Specially towards someone who appears to be attempting to offer help. This isn't a thread to bash at others. This, however, is a thread that is for bashing others..

[dragonsouce]

True enough but it's my point that some people depend on there PC and that the Patch 1.03 did more harm to some than others and lot more pertenshal harm to PC owner than Console owners.That this was not just about a game but about damaging are systems with a untested patch. It was irresponsible. I want it clear this new patch fixes the OS Freeze issue and that this time it's tested on ever ones systems of all types with equal care.

And these points are all about this thread and is not bashing.

PC user wear at greater risk and damaged in real ways to are livelyhoods and yet wear console was tested very carefully and 64 bit ignored and not tested Bioware Admitted that in sevral email to sevral people not just me. So lets see they test this thing this time around on all systems and fix the OS freezes on 64 bit.

Not a Bash Just being clear. You sell a product that defective and hurt some one you owe them a tested safe patch.:innocent:

I Again I say it!!!!! TEST IT IN BETA !!!

Modifié par dragonsouce, 22 juin 2010 - 02:31 .

[joey_mork84]

The testing idea is not new, but not a bad idea either.. However, testing the patch on EVERY SYSTEM is impossible. Not everyone has the same system configuration (obviously) and having the patch tested on an infinite number of system configurations is (no offense) absurd.. The most they could do is test the patch on the most common system setups, which is more likely.



I understand your frustrations (I really do), but your post to Fera was a bit out of line. That anger should be directed in the right places, rather than towards other members. I'm not saying you should start yelling at the mods or devs over this (since that's already been done enough by others), but you should really put that anger somewhere else.. Maybe a group discussion topic somewhere..

[dragonsouce]

Again my intent was not to insult it really was not but saying that cashing to desktop could not really cost you money got my goat. 12 errors on my 2 trig drive was costly. And others lost more. I was trying to make it clear what it was costing people and some did not just get a desktop crash Feraele wrote...of . Feraele asked how repair could cost so much I answered.
And  windows 7 64 bit os should of been tested as it is a common Gaming OS.

It's not just a configeration but a WHOLE OPERATING SYSTEM!

Modifié par dragonsouce, 22 juin 2010 - 02:45 .

[joey_mork84]

Just some FYI, but there are several programs you can get for your pc that will fix any HD errors without you having to replace it. Many of those will also periodically clean your PC to keep it running smoothly and efficiently. That little bit is off-topic for this thread, but thought it would help you out. If need-be, I can attach links to this post later for some free programs that do this without you needing to spend a penny.

[Unos]

Nevermind

Modifié par Unos, 22 juin 2010 - 02:58 .

[dragonsouce]

Thanks you, I used Spinright but it's a bit dated and will be glad to give it a shot shadow copy not working since the errors so my system restores refusing to work.

As said cost in time alone on the drive sucks, not to mention it's reliability issue.
Again never intended to be insulting but this has been very costly in many ways.
And the OS Freeze is just horrible.

For the record the drive was fine before the crash.

VMGamer love the idea I buy one.

Modifié par dragonsouce, 22 juin 2010 - 02:57 .

[joey_mork84]

dragonsouce wrote...

Thanks you, I used Spinright but it's a bit dated and will be glad to give it a shot shadow copy not working since the errors so my system restores refusing to work.

As said cost in time alone on the drive sucks, not to mention it's reliability issue.
Again never intended to be insulting but this has been very costly in many ways.
And the OS Freeze is just horrible.

Advanced System Care is a good (and free) program that cleans your entire PC, as well as fixes HD and registry errors. Really easy to use, as well. Install it, start it up and push the big blue button..

Another good program is Gamebooster. I've posted it on the forums a few times, but I suppose one more won't hurt. When you turn this one on and switch to "Gaming Mode", it stops all background processes and programs that you don't need for gaming to make your PC and game run faster and even clears up a bit of your RAM for even more speed and stability.

But this is getting way off-topic now, so I'm going to stop.. Hope you have better luck with those two programs installed!

[dragonsouce]

Never seen Advanced System Care will give it a go.

I know Gamebooster well and recommend it my self and even used it with DOA did not help combat glitch seem to be coursed by a media special effect file after 5 minutes combat frames would slow down the Freeze it would only happen if some one with magic or magic weapon was in the party. CPU start running hot then system freeze,Game ran smooth as silk with pure fighters with normal weapons. But as soon as magic was there it crashed in 5 minutes. Full bloody Freeze. -DX9 flag helped some but it still crash and freeze in about 10 minute. Will this patch fix this?

PS it crashed with sound off. Never tried it with actually disabled onboard sound driver disabled from device manager as I had not the guts to try testing after the last crash left all that damage.