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[SithLordExarKun]

Terror_K wrote...

I have no idea what you're talking about, and I don't really much care. I don't recall being laughed at. Last time I recall "calling you out" on your tactics you simply went quiet afterwards and I recall no laughter at my expense. And I work 5 --sometimes 6-- days a week, so I', not exactly here 24/7 either.

You respond alot to something that you claim you don't care

. And i DID respond, you just happened to ignore what i replied when you tried to "call me out" on my tendency to "insult people and bring out the worse in them". Of course you don't recall being laughed at, its a little thing called "denial".

[Fiery Phoenix]

BioWare loves teasing us. We should all know that by this point. It's not a bad thing, too. Not really.



Also, DAO and ME aren't supposed to be compared.

[Terror_K]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

And i DID respond, you just happened to ignore what i replied when you tried to "call me out" on my tendency to "insult people and bring out the worse in them". Of course you don't recall being laughed at, its a little thing called "denial".

I didn't see a reply. Point me to it if it exists. And point me to where I was laughed at too while you're at it.

[SithLordExarKun]

Terror_K wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

And i DID respond, you just happened to ignore what i replied when you tried to "call me out" on my tendency to "insult people and bring out the worse in them". Of course you don't recall being laughed at, its a little thing called "denial".

I didn't see a reply. Point me to it if it exists. And point me to where I was laughed at too while you're at it.

I thought you didn't care? Why do you care if my reply exists? That "reply" was not  a direct answer to your attempt to call me  but the fact that i said i agreed to some of your claims and then drew that little line that represented the "blend" between RPG/shooter. You did a nice job claiming i went "quiet" when what i actually did try to do was to reach an agreement, something which you can never achieve due to your deluded opinion that your word is law.

There were even other people who called you out on that, i recall one of them claiming "whats deep to you may not be deep to others", and don't bother asking me to "search for that post", because i am not going to bother searching a 250+ page thread to look for one post.

Ill admit that the "laughed at you part" has no base, but as much as it annoys you that im "mocking other peoples claims of how ME2 is bad", its just as annoying to see you argue your points like everything you say is undisputed fact.


Infact, to respond to your little rebuttal, since you care so much of what i think of you(despite your claims that you dont care, which seems incredibly hypocritical) and having the impression that you look down on anybody that  enjoys ME2 and tries to beat them into a submission, ill just take the liberty of that "attempt to call me out" and give my own rebuttal.

Sorry, but I've seen you leap into anti-ME2 threads before like some ME2
avenger and start mocking the claims people make and even the people
themselves straight up without any provocation. To me its like your MO
is to wait for these type of threads to appear and then strike. You may
not directly insult from the get-go, but your general attitude and
sarcastically snide comments are enough to bring out the worst in your
opponents. You don't try to "win" the argument... you try to irate your
opponents into losing it.

Yes, because questioning peoples rationale = mocking them, justy exactly like how you question how can people possibly call ME2's weapon system "deep" and proceed to try to beat them into a submission with your "i am right, my words are universal law" attitude.

So mocking a few people in a few isolated incidents means im some ME2 avenger, maybe you haven't seen the parts where i was attacked and then i retaliated, fighting fire with fire. Don't be ridiculous.

What you generally do is no different than what i do, i may mock peoples (ridiculous)claims, but i don't try to convince the world that my words are universal law and whatever i say is the end be all and that people must  listen to me,   i have had many great discussions with other people on the things i was dissapointed with ME2, you on the otherhand choose to ignore that and try to call me an "ME2 avenger" sole based on my mockery of other people and chose to ignore that criticisms i made.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 21 juin 2010 - 01:07 .

[Terror_K]

I don't care what you think of me... I just care what others think, and don't like your baseless accusations and claims. And when you fully admit that at least one of said claims is baseless, how can we take anything else you say as any more accurate.



The difference is I attack the point, while you attack the person, in that subtle, indirect manner that allows you to get away with it. The reason that it may come across to you that I'm "saying my points are undisputed fact" is because I try to argue using logic rather than making it a personal thing. The reason you come across as antagonistic is because you make things more personal. I put down the idea, while you put down the individual behind it.



And before you cry "irony" and "hypocrisy" I've decided to make you my one exception on this board. There's a lot of people I disagree with on this message board regarding various things, including ME2, but at least I can respect them because they don't coat their blades with a thin poison while we're dueling.

[SithLordExarKun]

Terror_K wrote...

I don't care what you think of me... I just care what others think, and don't like your baseless accusations and claims.

The sword cuts both ways my friend, i don't give a damn what you think, nor do i like your baseless accusations and claims about my behaviour and agenda. But really, if you didn't care, you wouldn't have tried to convince me you work 5-6 days a week.

Terror_K wrote...
And when you fully admit that at least one of said claims is baseless, how can we take anything else you say as any more accurate.

Whos "We"? Or does that "we" refer to "you" and "you alone"?  You can take anything else i say as accurate because there's literally proof written all over the place, but do your own homework, i won't do that for you.

Terror_K wrote...
The difference is I attack the point, while you attack the person, in that subtle, indirect manner that allows you to get away with it.

I sense a contradiction, first you claim i "mock peoples claims/point and even attack the person", now you are making another claim where i "just attack the person".

Terror_K wrote...
The reason that it may come across to you that I'm "saying my points are undisputed fact" is because I try to argue using logic rather than making it a personal thing.

Arguing with logic is never an indicator of "my points are undisputed fact", again i repeat i am not the first person that called you out on your tendency to think your words and claims are undisputed fact. Its because you relentlessly argue and pursue the individual who enjoys the game and bash them into a submission even though they state their personal opinions.

Terror_K wrote...
The reason you come across as antagonistic is because you make things more personal. I put down the idea, while you put down the individual behind it.

To the said people that i attacked, they made it personal, i simply gave them what they wanted, so why complain about it?  People like Kalfear, Yoomazir, Dinkamus wanted things to get personal, i simply gave them what they asked for.

Terror_K wrote...
And before you cry "irony" and "hypocrisy" I've decided to make you my one exception on this board. There's a lot of people I disagree with on this message board regarding various things, including ME2, but at least I can respect them because they don't coat their blades with a thin poison while we're dueling.

No, you clearly don't, you say one thing but your actions say another, i may have bashed and mocked a few people, but i don't convince people that ME2 >>> ME1 or DAO + ME2 > ME1. You on the otherhand do things the complete opposite, you attack those that disagree with you(the difference is i do it to the person, you do it to the point but as i have said, i dont bother convincing people otherwise).

Hell you even tried to proclaim that your arguments are as valid as those of the scientists who couldn't find any evidence leading to the existance of god. That alone says alot. So keep contradicting yourself on a daily basis.

[PARAGON87]

Terror_K wrote...

E3 was pretty damn disappointing overall this year, IMO. Nothing that big or interesting revealed... funnily enough BioWare's SWTOR was probably the best stuff there. Most announcements were pretty ho-hum and predictable.

Oh, and Dragon Age Origins is a far, far, FAR superior game to ME2 in almost every respect.

Ehh... I have to disagree with you sir.  Although Dragon Age has a lot more explorable environments, and immerses you in the universe deeper than ME, it get's too tedious after awhile and doesn't progress as smooth.  (Eg. FADE!)

Really the replayablility of ME trumphs DA:O because although to explore everything in DA:O will take you 100 hours or more, and a complete ME > ME2 playthough you can do in about  70-80 hours.

Plus, I like how my ME character has spoken dialogue, that's just me.   Plus DA:O's graphics we too low-quality for me.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 21 juin 2010 - 02:28 .

[PARAGON87]

SirThugsAlot wrote...

I was hoping they would announce plans for future DLC that lead to ME3. Guess we'll have to wait.

I would wait another month, possibly until Drew Karpyshyn's now book ME: Retribution comes out.  Probably then we'll start seeing ME2 > ME3 content being announced.

I figure six months is a good estimate for BioWare to think that we're all done playing ME2.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 21 juin 2010 - 02:34 .

[Jebel Krong]

Terror_K wrote...

E3 was pretty damn disappointing overall this year, IMO. Nothing that big or interesting revealed... funnily enough BioWare's SWTOR was probably the best stuff there. Most announcements were pretty ho-hum and predictable.

agreed. and the best thing about the old republic was only the trailer (and if we're reduced to judging trailers, it's a toss-up between that, Deus Ex 3 and the force unleashed 2). Portal on the ps3? - crap. where's the new source engine reveal? HL2:E3?

Terror_K wrote...
Oh, and Dragon Age Origins is a far, far, FAR superior game to ME2 in almost every respect.

absolutely not. it's a more 'traditional' rpg, but that's about it.

[Jaron Oberyn]

SirThugsAlot wrote...

I was hoping they would announce plans for future DLC that lead to ME3. Guess we'll have to wait.

They already talked about that a while ago. The expansions/DLC's that will continue the story post game and bridge the gap between ME2 and ME3 will be released close to the release date of ME3. So thats a while from now. Mass 2 just came out a few months ago. Don't expect them to be doing the post-game content so soon.


 -Polite

[BizzareChipmunk]

Terror_K wrote...

Oh, and Dragon Age Origins is a far, far, FAR superior game to ME2 in almost every respect.

HA!

[RenownedRyan]

Terror_K wrote...

E3 was pretty damn disappointing overall this year, IMO. Nothing that big or interesting revealed... funnily enough BioWare's SWTOR was probably the best stuff there. Most announcements were pretty ho-hum and predictable.

Oh, and Dragon Age Origins is a far, far, FAR superior game to ME2 in almost every respect.

I agree with you that E3 this year fell far short of last year. 

That's where it ends however.

SWTOR showed off impressive CG again this year, but when actual gameplay graphics were shown it was exactly like the original KOTOR. 

As for the last statement, although I respect your right to an opnion, I must disagree completely (and ask you to refrain from spamming these forums since that was a completely unnecessary statement).

IGN
ME2 vs Dragon Age
Edge: Mass Effect, 9.6/8.7

Gamespot
ME2 vs Dragon Age
Edge: Mass Effect, 9/8

G4
ME2 vs Dragon Age
Draw: 5/5

I could go on.

So as you can see.  Both reveiwers and players alike prefer Mass Effect in a close contest.  Thus explaining why ME2 has sold around 2.1 Billion copies to Dragon Age's 3.2 Million

[Terror_K]

SithLordExarKun wrote...
Whos "We"? Or does that "we" refer to "you" and "you alone"?  You can take anything else i say as accurate because there's literally proof written all over the place, but do your own homework, i won't do that for you.

We is anybody and everybody who can read this, since you clearly intend to slander me publicly, otherwise you would have attacked via a PM instead of derailing a topic merely because I posted in it.

And funny how there's proof apparently "written all over the place" and yet no evidence at hand for you to present. Wait a minute though... isn't "proof" something that's irrefutable fact? But... but I thought only I made such grandiose claims?

I sense a contradiction, first you claim i "mock peoples claims/point and even attack the person", now you are making another claim where i "just attack the person".

Not a contradiction at all. You attack people though their claims. That's kind of what I meant when I was referring to that subtle, indirect manner you're so fond of using.

Arguing with logic is never an indicator of "my points are undisputed fact", again i repeat i am not the first person that called you out on your tendency to think your words and claims are undisputed fact. Its because you relentlessly argue and pursue the individual who enjoys the game and bash them into a submission even though they state their personal opinions.

But I don't purposefully go into topics that praise ME2's changes and try and try and convince them otherwise. You, on the other hand, are always entering topics that are purposefully designed to point out the problems with ME2 and debate them, as if you're looking for trouble, and post in opposition to those who have complaints in a derisive manner.

To the said people that i attacked, they made it personal, i simply gave them what they wanted, so why complain about it?  People like Kalfear, Yoomazir, Dinkamus wanted things to get personal, i simply gave them what they asked for.

That's only the ones you attacked directly. Not the ones you post snide comments about with veiled insults.

No, you clearly don't, you say one thing but your actions say another, i may have bashed and mocked a few people, but i don't convince people that ME2 >>> ME1 or DAO + ME2 > ME1. You on the otherhand do things the complete opposite, you attack those that disagree with you(the difference is i do it to the person, you do it to the point but as i have said, i dont bother convincing people otherwise).

Because of course the whole point of a debate is to not try and get your point across and convince people using arguments in your favour.

Oh wait...

Hell you even tried to proclaim that your arguments are as valid as those of the scientists who couldn't find any evidence leading to the existance of god. That alone says alot. So keep contradicting yourself on a daily basis.

I see the concept of humour is lost on you. I'll leave you be then. Getting a bit sick of this little pissing contest you decided to start anyway. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed at myself... I should have had the maturity to just ignore you from the start. You're not worth the effort. But... I always have trouble not listening to that little voice that says "you're not going to let him get away with that crap, are you?!"

[spacehamsterZH]

Hook, meet line. Line, meet sinker.

[Lellandra]

I say throw us a bone and give us some DLC news!!!



And make it a little bit happier than Overlord. That one was so sad and disturbing! I still have that last image on my head! *shivers*

[Rivercurse]

RenownedRyan wrote...


So as you can see.  Both reveiwers and players alike prefer Mass Effect in a close contest.  Thus explaining why ME2 has sold around 2.1 Billion copies to Dragon Age's 3.2 Million

Billion
One in 3 people on the planet bought a copy of ME2!

[Weiser_Cain]

Nope, a ME game this soon would be a rushed game. I hope ME3 is a massive game being the last in the series.

[JigPig]

RenownedRyan wrote...
 Thus explaining why ME2 has sold around 2.1 Billion copies to Dragon Age's 3.2 Million

I hope you're trolling.
That means Mass Effect 2 is the highest selling video game of all times, selling more copies than PS3s, Xbox 360s, Wiis, and gaming computers combined.

[SithLordExarKun]

Terror_K wrote...


We is anybody and everybody who can read this, since you clearly intend to slander me publicly, otherwise you would have attacked via a PM instead of derailing a topic merely because I posted in it.

I'm sorry but that "we" happens to be solely "you" alone, don't try to convince me that its every other poster on this forum when you are the one who chose to interact with me while most other people couldn't be bothered with the litte scuffle thats taking between us.

Yes yes and now you're claiming i "attacked" you, i merely pointed you going into non anti-ME2 threads and sprouting your personal opinions like facts and you shot back, really, don't act like your all holy and innocent because it takes two hands to clap.

Terror_K wrote...
And funny how there's proof apparently "written all over the place" and yet no evidence at hand for you to present. Wait a minute though... isn't "proof" something that's irrefutable fact? But... but I thought only I made such grandiose claims?

Oh please, "its irrefutable fact" that you present your opinions as facts, and it IS written all over the place, hence i've been calling you out on that one. Just go to that "dissapointment" thread and its literraly there. And no, you don't make such "grandiose claims", you merely delude yourself into thinking that you claims = fact.

Terror_K wrote...
But I don't purposefully go into topics that praise ME2's changes and try and try and convince them otherwise. You, on the other hand, are always entering topics that are purposefully designed to point out the problems with ME2 and debate them, as if you're looking for trouble, and post in opposition to those who have complaints in a derisive manner.

Thats the problem with you, you say one thing but do another, how am i suppose to take you seriously? You say you don't enter threads that praise ME2, but here you are in a non ME2 praising thread and blabbering how you think DAO is a vastly superior game to ME2 as an absolute fact, i merely called you out on that one, and you obviously couldn't even take a sly remark.

You say that i entered "every single" ME2 anti thread and bash "every single" person, when in reality and not your deluded fantasy, i only bashed a select few people and mocked their (ridiculous)claims, there are many people in that thread who dislikes ME2, did i attack every single one of them or the select few elitist snobs?

Terror_K wrote...
That's only the ones you attacked directly. Not the ones you post snide comments about with veiled insults.

Correction, they attacked, then i attacked. Get your facts straight(wait, i thought everything you said was facts, how come you couldn't get this right?)

Terror_K wrote...
Because of course the whole point of a debate is to not try and get your point across and convince people using arguments in your favour.

Some one doesn't understand what I'm trying to bring across which indicates your lack of understanding. Then again this just makes you look like an absolute hypocrite, its not ok for people to praise ME2 then without you trying to argue like what you say is absolute fact.

I may bash others in a debate to get my point across, but i don't bother convincing them of their personal opinion tand hat my opinion > theres(thats exactly what you do), you doing so just proves how much of a snob you are and how you think your opinion is superior to everybody elses, hell at least I managed to establish a middle ground for both people when im in an arguement to come to some agreements, but you go on like some stubburn donkey. Its very fortunate people like you aren't leaders of society, or more conflicts involving military warfare would likely breakout considering people would be so willing to take a shot at you due to your attitude.

Terror_K wrote...
I see the concept of humour is lost on you. I'll leave you be then. Getting a bit sick of this little pissing contest you decided to start anyway. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed at myself... I should have had the maturity to just ignore you from the start.

Yes, you keep proclaiming "i don't care!!", but you keep responding. If you're getting sick of this little contest i start, why respond? Here's why

1)You DO care how people on the internet think about you, and frankly speaking thats pathetic
2)You DO care what i think of you, considering your constant response
3)Its likely you WILL respond.

Terror_K wrote...
You're not worth the effort. But... I always have trouble not listening to that little voice that says "you're not going to let him get away with that crap, are you?!"

Yes yes, you say you'll ignore me, but ill wait for your next respond.

[Rads GN006]

was kinda disappointed at lack of dlc annoucned, was kinda hoping for armour/weapons that have been in posters to make it to us but there we go jsut gonna have to wait......

[Minister of Sound]

No Mass Effect news sucks. I was more sad than when I read that Ned Stark dies.

Modifié par Minister of Sound, 23 juin 2010 - 03:19 .

[Siansonea]

I wasn't expecting any Mass Effect news so soon at E3. I don't think DLC is newsworthy enough for E3, and ME3 is still a long way off. I think we're entering a dry spell in the gaming world, all that's out there seems to be a bunch of FPS's and Wii games. Bleah. :/

[LiquidGrape]

Siansonea II wrote...

I wasn't expecting any Mass Effect news so soon at E3. I don't think DLC is newsworthy enough for E3, and ME3 is still a long way off. I think we're entering a dry spell in the gaming world, all that's out there seems to be a bunch of FPS's and Wii games. Bleah. :/

Well, that's not entirely true...
There's ilomilo.



It's so saccharine you get diabetes. But it's totally worth it.