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[Antioch0074]

I chose kasumi to go along with me as well as garrus, and miranda as the biotic specialist to get through the seeker swarms. Even though kasumi was loyal, miranda's biotic field failed and kasumi got swept away by the seeker swarms. So then I chose zaeed to lead the diversion team but I guess that was a bad choice too since he got killed as well. I guess picking DLC characters where there's going to be small cutscenes is a bad idea? 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Antioch0074 wrote...

I chose kasumi to go along with me as well as garrus, and miranda as the biotic specialist to get through the seeker swarms. Even though kasumi was loyal, miranda's biotic field failed and kasumi got swept away by the seeker swarms. So then I chose zaeed to lead the diversion team but I guess that was a bad choice too since he got killed as well. I guess picking DLC characters where there's going to be small cutscenes is a bad idea? 

There's your problem.

[Antioch0074]

But it shouldn't be that way!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Common sense is your best weapon. Use it.

[Nazomi]

Only Jack or Samara can maintain the biotic field without giving out at the last minute causing one of your squad mates to die and Zaeed is a very poor choice as squad leader and usually (if not always) dies if you choose him.

Edit: Oh and I'm pretty sure Samara's evil daughter can do it also but i never take her over Samara even on my Renegad playthroughs.

Modifié par Nazomi, 19 juin 2010 - 05:54 .

[SojournerN7]

I think it's more choosing the right people for the right jobs. Miranda has biotics sure, but there are those that have more powerful biotics that can hold the field longer. Zaeed is a Mercenary, he generally works alone rather than commanding a team of people.

Try this thread: Suicide Mission Guide

[cerberus1701]

As someone said: Common sense.



Miranda's a biotic. But there are more powerful choices.



Jacob's a biotic, too, but, even in my first playthrough I never even considered using him.



And Zaheed's specialty? Personal survival. He has no interest in being a team player.

[BatarianBob]

Jack can't finish a sentence without reminding you that she's an "all powerful biotic b!tch". Samara can't go to the bathroom without making some kind of biotic display out of it.

The game isn't exactly subtle in telling you who the best choices are..

Modifié par Taranatar9, 19 juin 2010 - 06:21 .

[Foolsfolly]

Wow.

I can almost understand picking Miranda...she says she can do it, she has biotics...but this is the final mission where ever choice counts. You saw Jack take down 4 YMIR mechs and a whole space station. Samara's an asari who are naturally more powerful that humans in biotics. She also floats using her mind and is always mediating using her biotics. Either one of these two are clearly better choices in the biotic super powerful choice. It was actually the easiest choice of the suicide mission for me.

And Zaeed's my man...but listen to his stories when he's waxing goddamn nostalgic. Many stories end with everyone with him dying. While this makes him a valuable teammate and perfect for the Holding the Line segment it isn't exactly a perfect fit for fireteam leader. This is actually a hard choice to make your first time (Without spoilers obviously) but when I was in doubt I remembered the one crew mate who had Leader in her passive ability. Miranda's passive evolves into Cerberus Leader, dude.

Plus, Zaeed's loyalty mission, dude. The guy was co-leader of the Blue Suns...and they all betrayed him and shot him in the back of the head. Zaeed's not one for inspiring confidence or instilling loyalty among his peers and subordinates, even if I do love the character. Which I do.

Modifié par Foolsfolly, 19 juin 2010 - 07:28 .

[tonnactus]

cerberus1701 wrote...


Jacob's a biotic, too, but, even in my first playthrough I never even considered using him.
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Why not? His loyality talent is barrier and he couldnt do the field.Doesnt make big sense...
But a lot of things doesnt make sense in this game anyway.

[archurban]

since I have played this game many times, there has been some catching. Miranda, Garrus are very hard to be killed. don't pick any DLC characters for a leader (including Jack. she is totally useless in the end of mission, she is totally irresponsible, she got all killed crew members when I ordered her to bring them back to Normandy). for swarm, samara is only one to handle all without getting killed anyone. hacking is depended on who you choose. usually Kasumi or legion is right choice. second team leader is choosing from Garrus, Miranda, Grunt. they never died if you got loyalty.

[DeathScepter]

well he can put up a barrier for himself for the long walk easily but for four people it is much more diffcult. Matraich level biotic are more suited for high level biotics.

[squigian]

Yeah, Jacob's got the "good stuff" and his loyalty power is barrier, for crying out loud!



Seriously, though, he just doesn't have the power required to maintain the field. None of the "hybrid" biotic characters do. The Zaeed debate never fails to amuse me, though, whenever it comes up.

[tonnactus]

DeathScepter wrote...

well he can put up a barrier for himself for the long walk easily but for four people it is much more diffcult. Matraich level biotic are more suited for high level biotics.

Then why samara and jack doesnt have a better protection in the actual game.A higher steady barrier then jacob for example??? That are things that dont really make sense.Its the same with miranda. I doubt seriously someone could be a good leader when half of the team dont trust her as garrus said.

[Alphyn]

Hey, at least it isn't as bad as when Grunt dies when you choose him to be the second fireteam leader.



I mean, c'mon, he's a Goddamn krogan and he dies by getting shot in the stomach ONCE.

And don't say that he was getting shot eariler because krogan regenerate health.

Unless the shot that killed him was something like... I dunno, some huge round or something, I don't buy that he dies.



He was meant to survive at first - why doesn't he now?! FFFFFUUUUU-



/rant

[Lumikki]

Actually it's interesting, that people consider Jacob as bionic.

Samara and Morinth are only ones who's adepts (bionic).
Jacob, Thane and Jack are all vanguards (bionic & soldier)
Miranda is sentinel (bionic & technic)

Modifié par Lumikki, 19 juin 2010 - 10:29 .

[smecky-kitteh]

common sense will get you everywhere. with out it you fail the suicide mission. when you have to pick a tech specialist use someone handy with tech like tali or legion. when picking team leaders pick soeone you trust and has leadership skills like miranda and garrus. when picking the best biotic pick a biotic specialist like jack or samara.



it really isn't that hard. you just have to use common sense or ells





people will die. it had nothing to do with them being DLC characters,

[tonnactus]

Vanguards are biotics that specialized on close quarters combat.So thane isnt a vanguard because he didnt use the shotgun. And samara use an assault rifle,a soldier weapon.By your definition she would be vanguard too.

[Aldir]

Lumikki wrote...

Actually it's interesting, that people consider Jacob as bionic.

Samara and Morinth are only ones who's adepts (bionic).
Jacob, Thane and Jack are all vanguards (bionic & soldier)
Miranda is sentinel (bionic & technic)

The only robot in my team is Legion

[smecky-kitteh]

tonnactus wrote...

Vanguards are biotics that specialized on close quarters combat.So thane isnt a vanguard because he didnt use the shotgun. And samara use an assault rifle,a soldier weapon.By your definition she would be vanguard too.

you go out and recruit samara and jack because of there biotics. after you recruit samara jacob says her biotics will come in handy. jack is the strongest human biotic. why would you pick anyone other than those two?
you recruited thane because he;s an assassin. the game mentions very little about his biotcs and jacob is an average human biotic.

[Pacifien]

Wrex could have been classified as a vanguard in the first game because he also mixed the CQC soldier qualities with biotics, but rather than call him a vanguard, they called him a krogan battlemaster.

Of the biotic squadmates in the second game, Jacob is probably the only one I'd call a vanguard, and that probably would be his designation in the Alliance military. Miranda might have been classified as a sentinel.

But Thane and Jack are their own classes. Aside from their bonus power, their powers are strictly biotics in combat, but they use weapons not normally considered the adept's weapon of choice. But then neither does Samara.

[NICKjnp]

Jack is a biotic specialist because she became powerful due to experiments and she has raw biotic power. Samara/Morinth are biotics because they are Asari (which are the most powerful biotic species in the galaxy). Personally... I wish I could have had my adept do the biotic barrier. He was the most powerful biotic on the team.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Mirianda was the wrong choice. For the biotic shield thing, Use Jack or Samara/Morinth.

[smudboy]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Common sense is your best weapon. Use it.

And how!

[Lumikki]

tonnactus wrote...

Vanguards are biotics that specialized on close quarters combat.So thane isnt a vanguard because he didnt use the shotgun. And samara use an assault rifle,a soldier weapon.By your definition she would be vanguard too.

If You want to go that road as defined them by skills and weapon choises. First assault rifle is middle range weapon, not close combat one. And all squad members has two weapon.

I would say it goes like this.

1. Shotgun, Heavy pistol and Submachine gun (Short to middle range)
2. Assault rifle and heavy weapons (middle to long range)
3. Sniper rifle (long range)

So, if we consider this one:

Jacob and Jack has only short range weapons. Also both has ammo combat skill.
Thane has short and long range weapon. Also ammo combat skill.
Samara has short and middle range weapon, but only bionic skills.