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I was looking forward to playing Mass Effect 2 but I have a PS3 and a Core I3 laptop.  I downloaded the demo version of Mass Effect 2 to see if it would run and I had issues.

Will the full version of  Mass Effect 2 run on a laptop with a core I3 M330 processor with 4 GB Ram running WIndows Windows 7 64 bit?

Thanks for any information.

Smudly

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Like any self-respecting 3D game, it requires a graphic CARD from ATI or  nVIDIA to actually run at the designed speed and with the intended image quality.  Those are what Bioware used when they built the game and when they tested it..

MINIMUM Graphics
Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce 210, 7100, 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9200, and (probably) 9300; ATI Radeon X1300, HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, HD 4250, and HD 4350 are below minimum system requirements. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required. Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

RECOMMENDED
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, or better, recommended
NOTES: For the best results, make sure you have the latest drivers for your video and audio cards. Laptop or mobile versions of the above supported video cards have not had extensive testing and may have driver or other performance issues. As such, they are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.  Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

This doesn't quite mean that you cannot force the game to creep along somehow or other, with muddy looking images, and jerky animations, plus constant failures to pay attention to your attempts to interact with the game environment, if you want to torture yourself using crap such as what Intel foists off on the public.

Very basic discussion of video cards, video chips, and even of laptops' limits: 

http://social.biowar...58/index/519461

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 décembre 2010 - 04:08 .


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I knew when i purchased the laptop that it would not be a gaming machine. But since ME2 was not released for the PS3 I was hoping I could still run it if I disabled some of the graphics functions. Oh well I guess I wont be spending any money on ME2 I will spend it on someone else's game.

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Apparently the latest drivers fix this and Core i3 laptops can play Mass Effect 1 and 2 and GRID now which they couldn't before.

No guarantee though.

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flyingfalcon wrote...

Apparently the latest drivers fix this and Core i3 laptops can play Mass Effect 1 and 2 and GRID now which they couldn't before.
No guarantee though.

You still can't play the game if your GPU isn't up to scratch.

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What?

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And what is this like any self-respecting 3D game stuff?

Crysis, COD4, MW2, FEAR 2, they'll run on integrated graphics.

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flyingfalcon wrote...

Apparently the latest drivers fix this and Core i3 laptops can play Mass Effect 1 and 2 and GRID now which they couldn't before.
No guarantee though.

Although the i3 / i5 video chip inside the CPU package is the first one to ever get as close as it is to the speed of the onboard chips from ATI and nVIDIA, it still is inferior, with a limited number of shader processors.  There simply is no chip with adequate performance that isn't part of a discrete graphics processor CARD on its own circuit board. 

All reports so far are of extreme slowness, accompanied by seriously banded graphics (black and white streaks mixed with the horizontal scan lines).  Any video device unable to maintain a minimum of 15-20 FPS will fail because feedback is inadequate, and Intel can't make anything that runs even that slowly, and also does so consistently. 

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http://www.anandtech...-vs-acer-5542/6



That's just the Core i3 laptops graphics anyway, Core i5 laptop with Integrated Intel graphics is a bit faster and the Core i3 and Core i5 desktop have faster IGPs also.



I mean, results will vary, but looks like it can be played.



I have integrated graphics also and I can play it.


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You're trying to whip a dead horse after the race is already over!  No integrated graphics from anyone is supported, because the games are not intended to be "played" on such puny stuff.  ME-2 is literally incapable of doing so at decent resolutions because of the forementioned feedback mechanism. 

A gamer with an IGP can't pick things up easily, can't open doors, can't aim properly, all interaction with the gaming environment is crippled by slow frame rates, unless / until a truly ugly very low resolution is used, and that isn't going to be enough for the.Intel crap   

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If you like gaming you do not want to be using integrated graphics it's as simple as that.

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I've enjoyed games at 25 FPS and I've enjoyed games at 780x480, 28 FPS at 800x600 is not too bad, the article does mention that all those games listed are playable, including Mass Effect 2.

No, the Intel HD graphics are not intended for the more enthusiast type of games, but they've gotten better.

I have an IGP too and the game is fully playable and fully enjoyable.

Interesting also that Intel showed a clip of Mass Effect 2 for the demo of the newer IGPs that they're working on. Hopefully be fully playable at 720p. The race is clearly not over. Heck the desktop graphics might already be there, especially if you overclock the graphics a bit. One guy got Crysis and GTA4 fully playable at 720p, is that crap?

If you want to continue to argue about integrated graphics for video games online with a stranger continue. The answer to the topic question is yes though.


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ok it says that if i install the new i3 core drivers that it might not be compatable with the dell installed software should i do it anyways


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Official Intel drivers for integrated HD graphics or other stuff shouldn't mess up anything.

Of course I'm not an expert on them, do what you want to do.

You can probably fall back to older drivers or something if it gets messed up.

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Alright, but I have everything that smudly has on his computer and I still can't get ME2 to work it just crashes at start-up.

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Start-up to play or install anyway?
Everything fully updated?
Might be a few things you could try, but probably can't get too much support with trying to run the game with Intel graphics, after all the game does say Intel graphics aren't officially supported, Dragon Age Origins, The Sims 3, and Star Trek online are basically the only three games I've seen actually list Intel graphics.

Modifié par flyingfalcon, 14 juillet 2010 - 04:20 .


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It happens when I press play in the splash menu.

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Heh, so is that after it's installed or not?

I have no clue there's a bunch of things that can go wrong with games.

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After it's installed!

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Well with the latest drivers for everything and still no luck, I don't know if there's anything you can do.
Crazy that anyone could get it running though on a graphics chip that has 12 pipelines when the game recommends a card that has 112.

Modifié par flyingfalcon, 14 juillet 2010 - 04:59 .


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flyingfalcon wrote...

Well with the latest drivers for everything and still no luck, I don't know if there's anything you can do.
Crazy that anyone could get it running though on a graphics chip that has 12 pipelines when the game recommends a card that has 112.


Know any hardcore geeks? Not your average gamer/pc geek. I'm talking the Sheldon style "One lab accident away from evil genius taking over the world" type of geek.
Hardcore geeks can get just about anything, to run on just about anything.
Runescape on an internet enabled fridge for instance? Low res, buggy, and not very playable, but it was done to see if it could be done. Freelancer on a 486? Been there, done that.

A lot of times it comes down to sheer dumb luck that you managed to get a piece of kit together with enough tolerances on the hardware to allow it to be pushed harder than it was designed to be.

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Someone claimed to get Mass Effect working on the 4500MHD, probably 100% horrible though haha, someone claimed both games work on their 4500MHD.
Some people have done some interesting youtube videos with integrated graphics and might know more.
Wait, someone literally got Runescape to run on an internet enabled fridge? That's both insane and awesome.
I think someone got Crysis to run on a Pentium 3 processor.
There's maybe some config files or something people can try, downloading or editing.
I hear they literally programmed something into Fallout 3 to make it not run on Intel graphics (Why would they do that?) And a small file is all that's needed to get it working.
To get Mass Effect 2 to work on my laptop smoothly with integrated graphics I use gamebooster, custom cooling, and I edit the config files. I got this laptop 13 months ago and I didn't even know what the graphics were back then.
Interesting fact, Star Trek Online has the 7950 GT and Intel HD graphics as the minimum, but Mass Effect 2 lists Geforce 6800 as the minimum but doesn't officially work on any Intel graphics. Weird no? Obviously different engines so yeah.
I heard Mass Effect 2 had some issues with single core processors but it works better on them now with updates.
Also it lists the 4350 as not being supported but people got it to work. Hmm.
My IGP is DEFINTELY below the 4350.
The new ones will be cool to read about if nothing else, considering Mass Effect 2 is literally the game they showed on it to tease us about it. I wonder if the guy who did the article with the laptop with the Core i3 and integrated graphics and showed Mass Effect 2 as being playable would know anything, wonder if someone could email him or something.

Modifié par flyingfalcon, 16 juillet 2010 - 12:41 .


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Someone got Mass Effect 2 to run on their 4500M with the latest drivers.
Insane.
And apparently with a modded driver and the latest update Mass Effect 2 is playble on a 4500MHD.
I love this stuff.

Modifié par flyingfalcon, 27 août 2010 - 06:09 .


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There's four videos of Mass Effect 2 running on Intel graphics now, but three of them have that texture glitch, anyone know about any way to fix that?

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don't argue with GPU card. modern game requires GPU card no matter what. intel integrate card has very limited power. it's only good for playing HD movies, light 3D software, photo edition. for game, YOU STILL NEED DECENT GRAPHIC CARD. especially, if you want very recent games, you need it. they don't support intel graphic card. if you still argue, you are just retarded because you don't want to play game like slide photo show.