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[SirEmilCrane]

I'm new to DA and finding it incredibly hard. I'm shocked to find myself frustrated on normal difficulty. Anyway, I'm playing as a sword and shield human noble, currently using the specialization Templar.

Anyone want to give me some pointers on what I'm supposed to be doing, what talents I should use, stats I should get etc

[Phaelducan]

For S/S Templar, I'd recommend enough strength to equip your armor of choice (no more than 38), and the rest in Dexterity to minimize getting hit.



Use Holy Smite on enemy casters, keep Shield Wall up, and look for magic resistance gear (in particular the Templar Armor outsite Orzammar gives 40%). Keep a mage in your party at all times, both for healing as well as crowd control.



Just stick with it, once you get past the learning curve you'll do fine.

[Elhanan]

Not certain if I can help, but here are some general tips. Pls look in Builds forum for more aid.
Ability scores: STR at least 42+; DEX at least 26+; Cunning at 16, but 5 free pts are avilable in the Fade; maybe some pts in Will, but not as needed as with other classes. Magic and Con do not need touched except for free pts.

Skills: Coersion and Combat Training should gain all; Survival also handy but not imperative.
Talents: all S&S, Templar, and Fighter talents. if you choose another spec, sub for some of the Prcecise Strike line of talents.

Gear: wear the best you can find; avoid purchases as most of the best is available as loot. Exception for Templars is the Knight Commander plate available in the Frostback Mts if you plan on going for full Magic Immunity.

See here for more, esp for Spell Immunity tanking:

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Tank

maybe more later....

Modifié par Elhanan, 20 juin 2010 - 09:53 .

[miltos33]

L2P Noob and if you get Pwned go to play some other game. Just kidding of course.  But we used to have plenty of posts like this a few months ago. Now that most of the spoiled little brats are gone we can sometimes have some actual conversation.

Make sure that you use the tactics menu for your companions but don't rely on it too much. This game is supposed to play as a real time with PAUSE so use your spacebar freely and micromanage each one of your party members individually at least in those battles that give you trouble. This may feel a bit tedious at the beginning but the more you get the hang out of the tactics menu and the stronger your party becomes as you progress in the game the less you have to pause.

As for stats and talents since you play a sword and shield warrior you should obviously max the sword and shield tree. Your strength should ideally reach 42 so you can wear some of the best armor in the game. The rest should go to dexterity which affects both your attack and defence scores. Don't bother as much with constitution because there are plenty of items in the game to artificially increase it and you automatically gain hit points every time you level up. You can also invest in another specialization. One that goes well with templar is the champion.     

[SirEmilCrane]

Started playing around with tactics a bit and using some new strategies and its getting better.



So far the best part config seems to be

Me

Morrigan

Wynne

Leliana



It places a lot of the combat strain on me but with Leli picking people off and Morrigan for crowd control its not too bad. I got through Jarvia's hideout no-sweat. I really want to level up I need one more point of str for Knight Commander's plate.

[StealthyPanda17]

One thing you should do is set morrigan/wynne (or both) to cast heal on any ally which falls below 75% health. this overkills the health regeneration.

And since you have two mages, i sugget getting the four spirit (?) spells with telekinetic barrier (awesome for immunising tank from damage or from hostile spells), and with the crushing prison.

This should make things easier.

The main thing is to learn which are the best spells/talents for your squad members, so the second play-through is a breeze!

[TBastian]

I think the main problem is that your team needs more DPS. Tanking is nice and all but you really want to kill your enemies before they bleed your mage's mana and your own supply of poultices dry. Leliana is good DPS, and you should pat yourself on the back if she's doing well in your party (means you built her decent) but you really need someone who can kill off enemy units so you don't end up tanking more than you can handle... without being as frail as paper (which sadly Leliana is, although she does make up for this in other ways).

Morrigan can fill in that role, but she'll need to start investing in more nukes. To do that she'll need quite a few levels... and very  good (ie, very expensive) gear. Have you considered using Sten or Zevran? If you want to tough it out with your current members I guess you can have Wynne pitch in and take a few CC's or nukes, as well.
Btw, Leliana could also help with the AoE if you give her poison bombs. She can craft some too with Poison-making 2. Come to think of it even your own Templar can throw bombs, you only need a single rank in Poison-making to use them.

Modifié par TBastian, 20 juin 2010 - 11:32 .

[swk3000]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Started playing around with tactics a bit and using some new strategies and its getting better.

So far the best part config seems to be
Me
Morrigan
Wynne
Leliana

It places a lot of the combat strain on me but with Leli picking people off and Morrigan for crowd control its not too bad. I got through Jarvia's hideout no-sweat. I really want to level up I need one more point of str for Knight Commander's plate.

You don't need to wait until you level up. If someone in your party has an item that gives +1 Strength, snag it from them and equip it on your PC. You'll then be able to equip the Knight-Commander's Plate.

[MindYerBeak]

Don't neglect the other party members for the sake of your own char. Ensure they're equipped with the best stuff and stats. On higher levels Morrigan is a powerhouse. You can also spec her as an Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage, at which time you won't need a tank, she'll become a walking dynamo. Your tank will look like a wimp beside her and she can wear massive armour. All points into Magic.

Leliana should be specced out for Cunning dual weilding Rogue. Get her up to Song of Courage which will boost your Mage specs, turning Cunning/Magic into strength. Get Lethality ASP. All points into Cunning with Dex to 25. She also has good archer abilities for those times you need it. At higher levels she's a real killer.

One of your Mages should go the Hex line, the other the Glyph line. Cone of Cold and Mind Blast are a must have. Sleep and Horror is extremely useful. Max out the Cold, Fire/Lightening spell lines if you can. Very useful later on. It's a party battle, not an individual battle, all party members should contribute.

By the way, if you have Fire weapons on one mage and Cold weapons on the other, these will stack, you can use both, or three with Telekinetic weapons. Fire weapons dish out more damage than Cold.

Modifié par MindYerBeak, 20 juin 2010 - 08:31 .

[SirEmilCrane]

MindYerBeak wrote...


By the way, if you have Fire weapons on one mage and Cold weapons on the other, these will stack, you can use both, or three with Telekinetic weapons. Fire weapons dish out more damage than Cold.

My god... Morrigan's got cold weapons, mostly just so I could have the world slaying Cone of Cold

Unfortunately I'm in the deep roads right now and had to leave Morrigan behind. For a dwarf warrior Oghren die quicker than Leliana.

[Jestina]

Don't rush into combat. If you spot a group of bad things up ahead, it's sometimes best to wait and let them come to you. If they haven't spotted you then use a mage or archer to snipe at one to lure it over, then you can gang kill it. If you see a mob coming at you, seek out a defensive area where you can't be flanked and hold the position.



I personally don't like sword and board myself....I let Allister handle it. For warriors I always go dual wield...pure raging damage. For me the best defense is a high powered offense.

[SirEmilCrane]

Jestina wrote...

I personally don't like sword and board myself....I let Allister handle it. For warriors I always go dual wield...pure raging damage. For me the best defense is a high powered offense.

Beating people to death with a piece of wood is fun. Tanking is what I like to do. When its me and Alistair its even better.

[MindYerBeak]

If you're in the Deep Roads, don't underestimate Morrigan, she's your bestest friend. Can you change your party members and switch in Morrigan?

Eventually you'll come to a long bridge in the Deep Roads. This is where Morrigan will come into her own, stealing the limelight. At first the battle will be intense, then the Baddies settle down and wait cowardly at the far end of the bridge. Send Morrigan out on her own across the bridge. Use Winter's Grasp to make them attack. Use spells as they run towards her. They'll be dead before they reach her. Those that do reach her can suffer the Cone of Cold treatment. Serves them right.

Morrigan can be used on her own in many battle scenarios, especially long distance ones. She's far more powerful than any tank in certain battles. Inferno is useful for taking out Mages and archers.

You can believe me when I say switching in Morrigan for another character will make life a lot easier in the Deep Roads. I never leave home without her. You'll definitely need her when you encounter the Queen Spider.

Modifié par MindYerBeak, 20 juin 2010 - 10:30 .

[SirEmilCrane]

So should I switch out Leli or Wynne for Morrigan?

[Rhys Cordelle]

It really is quite possible to win Dragon Age on normal difficulty with crap equipment and the weakest talents. I don't say this to be arrogant or to insult you, the point I'm making is that the difficulty of Dragon Age is mostly about the learning curve. Once you've got a handle on things, you will suddenly find that normal difficulty is no longer challenging enough.



I watched a friend of mine playing Dragon Age for the first time and whenever they saw a mob they thought was too much to handle they would start running away with their sword and shield warrior. Their companions were left to duke it out on their own and inevitably die, while the MC was getting shot to death by arrows. You need to be aggressive and focused in your attacks. If each of your party members is taking on a different foe then you will take significantly more damage before you kill all the enemies. If you don't want to micromanage then set a tactic up for each of your companions to use a poultice when their life total falls below a certain percentage. Remember that the order of the tactics is relevant too. If you have Enemy>Nearest Visible>Attack above Self>Health<50%<Use least powerful poultice, then your character will keep attacking instead of healing.

[MindYerBeak]

I'd personally get rid of Winnie the Pooh. She's useful for healing purposes, but not much cop at dealing out damage. Morrigan can also make you health/lyrium potions.

Leliana is a must have party member. Don't forget she also has a bow for long range Morrigan support.

Modifié par MindYerBeak, 20 juin 2010 - 10:47 .

[Rhys Cordelle]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

So should I switch out Leli or Wynne for Morrigan?

Keep Leli for traps and locks. Whether or not you use wynne or morrigan depends entirely on what spells you've assigned each of them. You will probably find Wynne more useful in the deep roads as group heal will help you A LOT in the climactic battle of that quest (and probably many times before then too). If Wynne doesn't have any crowd control then switching to morrigan is probably a good idea.

Note that you can actually leave the deep roads and swap out oghren from your team if you want to, but he will insist on being in your team for the last part of the deep roads.

[Rhys Cordelle]

MindYerBeak wrote...

I'd personally get rid of Winnie the Pooh. She's useful for healing purposes, but not much cop at dealing out damage. Morrigan can also make you health/lyrium potions.

You talk as if morrigan and wynnes talents aren't variable. Wynne is better than Morrigan for two reasons: She hasn't wasted one of her spec choices on the utterly useless shapeshifting, and she gains a unique spell that is very useful. Sure, most of her initial spells are healing and buffing, but you get plenty of additional spells to customize her to your preference.

[SirEmilCrane]

MindYerBeak wrote...

I'd personally get rid of Winnie the Pooh. She's useful for healing purposes, but not much cop at dealing out damage. Morrigan can also make you health/lyrium potions.

Really?
I did not know this. Theres a lot of things about this game I don't know apparently.

[MindYerBeak]

I find Oghren, indeed any 2H weilder, entirely useless. Better to get rid of him and import Morrigan. I'm going on the presumption, of course, that you've made Morrigan the damager Mage.

Modifié par MindYerBeak, 20 juin 2010 - 10:56 .

[MindYerBeak]

It depends what spells you've given Winnie. I gave her the Glyph line and she's awesome.

[SirEmilCrane]

MindYerBeak wrote...

I find Oghren, indeed any 2H weilder, entirely useless. Better to get rid of him and import Morrigan. I'm going on the presuption, of course, that you've made Morrigan the damager Mage.

Yeah, I've got her doing the damage, Cone of Cold and shock are her two favourites, along with mind blast. Usually I leave James to do his thing and micro her.

[Rhys Cordelle]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

I find Oghren, indeed any 2H weilder, entirely useless. Better to get rid of him and import Morrigan. I'm going on the presuption, of course, that you've made Morrigan the damager Mage.

Yeah, I've got her doing the damage, Cone of Cold and shock are her two favourites, along with mind blast. Usually I leave James to do his thing and micro her.

That's wise. Sword and Shield characters can generally be left to their own devices. Mages become so much more effective with a human controlling them.

[MindYerBeak]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

I'd personally get rid of Winnie the Pooh. She's useful for healing purposes, but not much cop at dealing out damage. Morrigan can also make you health/lyrium potions.

You talk as if morrigan and wynnes talents aren't variable. Wynne is better than Morrigan for two reasons: She hasn't wasted one of her spec choices on the utterly useless shapeshifting, and she gains a unique spell that is very useful. Sure, most of her initial spells are healing and buffing, but you get plenty of additional spells to customize her to your preference.

I'm going on my own experiences in the Deep Roads. I had both Morrigan and Winnie the Pooh. If he can only swap out one character, then Morrigan would by my choice. During my own incursion into the Deep Roads I used both of them to devastating advantage. I didn't know you could switch out Oghren.

[MindYerBeak]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

I'd personally get rid of Winnie the Pooh. She's useful for healing purposes, but not much cop at dealing out damage. Morrigan can also make you health/lyrium potions.

Really?
I did not know this. Theres a lot of things about this game I don't know apparently.

You'll soon pick it up. I started on Hard difficulty to get to know properly the effect of spells. You'll learn lots as you progress through the game.