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I have seen the light of the Vanguard class.


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BigBoss6669

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and now I feel unable to play the other classes. I was a Sniping infiltrator from the begining of the first mass effect till the end of my first run through the second, and things were good. Then I picked up the solider, adrenline rush was fun. Got the Revenant, life was great. Then I gave Vanguard, it was good. I got 4 points into heavy charge and then... FEAR ME LESSER BEINGS, FOR I AM A GREAT BIOTIC HURRICANE WHO WILL HIT YOU LIKE A BOLT OF LIGHTING, AND RAIN DOWN AND INFERNO OF HOT LEAD RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.

So yea, the other classes seem to lack that umph that the Vanguard class has.

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I had a similar reaction when I was learning to play a Vanguard. I also was taking the opportunity to bump up my difficulty from Veteran to Insanity. I had earlier attempted this with an Infiltrator and was left very frustrated. I wasn't any better with my Vanguard, but death became fun and awesome.

This was around the time the Kasumi DLC came out, so I had opened up an earlier playthrough with my Infiltrator just to give that mission a quick run. Though still high from the rush of a perfect charge, all my love for the Vanguard got pushed to the wayside with one shot of the Widow. Doesn't seem to matter how much fun I've had learning to play the Vanguard or the Adept or even my current Engineer. I always return to my Infiltrator roots.

Still like a well choreographed battle with a series of charges, though.

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why bother. screw it. I'm done with the internet.

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BigBoss6669 wrote...

and now I feel unable to play the other classes. I was a Sniping infiltrator from the begining of the first mass effect till the end of my first run through the second, and things were good. Then I picked up the solider, adrenline rush was fun. Got the Revenant, life was great. Then I gave Vanguard, it was good. I got 4 points into heavy charge and then... FEAR ME LESSER BEINGS, FOR I AM A GREAT BIOTIC HURRICANE WHO WILL HIT YOU LIKE A BOLT OF LIGHTING, AND RAIN DOWN AND INFERNO OF HOT LEAD RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.

So yea, the other classes seem to lack that umph that the Vanguard class has.


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There are only three ways to play this game to its fullest extent:

Vanguard charging in your face with Claymore!

Widowing the wall behind an enemy's head!

Tech- and/or Bioticing the enemy into oblivion!

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I still can't figure out the Vanguard. Getting closer to my enemies always results in me dying faster. Thats also why I never use powers like Pull for myself or my squadmates. My infiltrator likes to be high and far away, out of sight so that the only thing my enemies see is their buddy's head explode from a Widow round and then my squadmates tossing them around like rag dolls.

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Ig et you on the "other classes lacking" after playing vanguard, I played overlord first on my soldier femshep and was dissappointed when I pressed Y and stuff slowed down without her flying at a geth.

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I tried playing vanguard, but I could never get over the whole "you spend half the game with no sniper rifle" bit.

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TheAwesomologist wrote...

I still can't figure out the Vanguard. Getting closer to my enemies always results in me dying faster. Thats also why I never use powers like Pull for myself or my squadmates. My infiltrator likes to be high and far away, out of sight so that the only thing my enemies see is their buddy's head explode from a Widow round and then my squadmates tossing them around like rag dolls.



The idea is after you get heavy charge, you should be able to use the charge and your squad mates abilities to take out a group of three of four on insanity in about 5 seconds, or one clip from the eviscerator. My basic set up is to have miranda use unstable warp, samara use area reave and I use area reave, now i have the health bonus, which at lvl 30 plus upgrades puts me at 650 hp. once charge is ready, i charge the enemy with no shields who is closest to another enemy. Once I knock the charge target back, i blast his friend in the face with my shotgun.

at lvl 30 with upgrades:
Charge bonus: 600 barrier points
Reave bonus: 650 HP
So now I have 1250 total points when dealing with enemies who are very close to me, one of which is in the next county, the other dead from a shotgun blast to the face and the other 2 are about to get rocked again because my squad mates abilities should be off cooldown.

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BigBoss6669 wrote...

TheAwesomologist wrote...

I still can't figure out the Vanguard. Getting closer to my enemies always results in me dying faster. Thats also why I never use powers like Pull for myself or my squadmates. My infiltrator likes to be high and far away, out of sight so that the only thing my enemies see is their buddy's head explode from a Widow round and then my squadmates tossing them around like rag dolls.



The idea is after you get heavy charge, you should be able to use the charge and your squad mates abilities to take out a group of three of four on insanity in about 5 seconds, or one clip from the eviscerator. My basic set up is to have miranda use unstable warp, samara use area reave and I use area reave, now i have the health bonus, which at lvl 30 plus upgrades puts me at 650 hp. once charge is ready, i charge the enemy with no shields who is closest to another enemy. Once I knock the charge target back, i blast his friend in the face with my shotgun.

at lvl 30 with upgrades:
Charge bonus: 600 barrier points
Reave bonus: 650 HP
So now I have 1250 total points when dealing with enemies who are very close to me, one of which is in the next county, the other dead from a shotgun blast to the face and the other 2 are about to get rocked again because my squad mates abilities should be off cooldown.

Oh I'm sure it works like that, but my problem with the Vanguard is getting to level 30 without my eyes bleeding from boredom and ineptitude. by the time I picked up an Assault Rifle I noticed things got better but at that point I just wasn't having enough fun. I've had no problems at any difficulty with my Infiltrator or Sentinel. My soldier struggled a little at first on higher difficulties. At this point I'm not returning to my Vanguard any time soon until I give the Engineer and Adept a go first.

In general though without cloak or tech armor I stay out of melee range as much as possible. For a game all about shooting stuff, Charge seems counter intuitive. Most likely its just me though.

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Vanguard is as much a mind set as anything else. Victory or Death!! It is understanding how to use your team to set up your charges and then charge blast charge blast charge melee charge blast move to next horde. Once you understand how, when and where you can become a GOD!!! Takes some practice and understanding that charging your opponent means you get your shields back, so rapid charging is a good thing. Once I got used to them, it was really hard to go back to playing other classes for a long while, until I just HAD to take a break from the Vanguard.

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Am I the only one who picked the Krogan shotgun upgrade instead of the sniper rifle just cuz it was a stronger shotgun.....? >_> <_< >_> <_<



(And I loved every minute of it! ^^)

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ill-intent wrote...

Am I the only one who picked the Krogan shotgun upgrade instead of the sniper rifle just cuz it was a stronger shotgun.....? >_> _>

(And I loved every minute of it! ^^)


If you can master the quick reload for the Krogan (melee when you hear the click) it is pure carnage.
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BigBoss6669 wrote...

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I liked Sentinel class better than Vanguard. I thought shockwave made Vanguard fun to play (it's a definitely a frontline class, first to go in)... Soldier class is better than Sentinel class... more guns. I would try adept class, but shooting stuff is more effective than using some space magic stuff. You're more likely to get hit using magic than taking targets out with space magic.

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I can't believe I read all those posts. They kept making less and less sence until it was compeltely gone. I feel so empty D:

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I enjoyed the Vanguard class up until I got sick of doing exactly the same thing in every single battle. I lasted up until getting Mordin and Garrus and then I gave up. Much as I like this game, it is too long to be playing a one-trick pony.

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Testing the VG...and I do like what I see. I love the shotgun. I'm slowly getting used to Charge....and shockwave is awesome...



Rolled a ME1 Adept... and I starting attacking people with my shotgun..thinking like I'm playing a Vanguard.... o.o



However... Sentinel.... edges out the Vanguard... only for the tech armor...

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Cypher0020 wrote...

Testing the VG...and I do like what I see. I love the shotgun. I'm slowly getting used to Charge....and shockwave is awesome...

Rolled a ME1 Adept... and I starting attacking people with my shotgun..thinking like I'm playing a Vanguard.... o.o

However... Sentinel.... edges out the Vanguard... only for the tech armor...


On normal, Shockwave is awesome. I kinda wish I had Throw, though, and I really miss my good old self-made Warp Explosions. Conversely, I can't stand Cryo Ammo. Vanguards are good, but just don't offer enough variety of play that a Sentinel, Infil or heavily-modded Adept can offer.

I would have preferred a class that worked like ME1's Vanguard. Adding a big chunk of heavy firepower, Barrier and Warp Ammo to an Adept pretty much gives the same play, but not an option off the PC ;)

I never found Sentinels that great, though. Once you get over the novelty of never having to worry about any defences ever, it becomes a bit stale. Tech Armor's blast is alright, but nothing compared to a good Warp Explosion :devil:

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Vanguard is great fun in right situations. Heavy risk, but the priize class. :) But if you lose your trail of thought in action (screw up aiming and reaction and panic, happens to me very often) or just bite a bigger piece you can chew and end up surrounded, you lose shields and armor faster than you can replenish with Heavy Charge and die rather quick. Overall Vanguard is my fav class even though I suck at it mostly.