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[Bullets McDeath]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

Hey everyone,

This is a great guide! I looked through a few pages but I am running low on time and have a question regarding squadmate deaths during the "Through The Omega 4 Relay" cutscene. If you do not get an upgrade, does that mean ALL the squadmates on the list will die, if eligible? Or only one will die per missed upgrade?

I hope that question makes sense. Thanks again for the guide, it was great help.

There are 3 upgrades required to get through the Omega 4 relay safely. Per upgrade you didn't buy, you'll lose 1 squad member. So if you didn't upgrade anything, you'll lose a maximum of 3 squad members.

Thanks for clarifying that, much appreciated!

Modifié par outlaworacle, 21 décembre 2010 - 03:45 .

[DarkDoz]

I want to thank Ecael this post that helped me complete the game
I lost Tali when I sent her back to protect the crew getting to the ship
I kept everyone else and blew up the Mother Ship
Went back through Omega 4 Relay
I download Shadow Broker since I am now hooked on ME2 this awesome game
It's pretty bad to go to sleep thinking about the N7 crew, and then I can't wait to get home from work to start another mission.

If anyone is having PC problems play ME1 or ME2

I found using Game Booster V2.1 help me greatly to enjoy the game error free.
http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

Thanks again Ecael , You Rock

Modifié par DarkDoz, 21 décembre 2010 - 09:25 .

[The Unfallen]

How the crap is Thane so durable? I remember from several logs in the SB base he has multiple health conditions, in which case many of the crew, well, with the possible exception of Mordin and a few others, would easily hold the line longer than he.

EDIT: And to be honest I think a lot of people underestimate Tali, I remember looking at her legs and thinking -holy balls I would hate to be kicked by her- I think she is a bit more durable than Miranda, even though I know damn near everyone is going to disagree with me.

EDITEDIT: Oh and guys, where do you think Shepard would be on that list? I'd personally but him right under Garrus.

Modifié par That Yellow Bastard, 22 décembre 2010 - 10:16 .

[Sebiale]

I think I had this question answered before, but I forgot the answer :S



How do you ensure the Collectors don't kidnap your crew before you've finished recruiting all squad mates, earned their loyalty and finished all upgrades?

[Bourne Endeavor]

Sebiale wrote...



I think I had this question answered before, but I forgot the answer :S



How do you ensure the Collectors don't kidnap your crew before you've finished recruiting all squad mates, earned their loyalty and finished all upgrades?

Do not complete the Reaper IFF mission before doing everything else. After doing that mission, you will recruit your last squad mate. Talk to it immediately to be given access to its Loyalty mission and than the crew abduction will trigger.

[Da_Lion_Man]

Question: Do you need Tali, Jacob or Garrus to be loyal in order to buy a ship upgrade?

[TK Dude]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

Question: Do you need Tali, Jacob or Garrus to be loyal in order to buy a ship upgrade?

No need to get them loyal to get it. You could go talk to them and press Investigate then [Normandy Upgrades], you'll get one in Ship Enhancements category.

[Da_Lion_Man]

That's good to hear. I was planning on doing a massacre playthrough (All 12 squad members dying including the crew).

[The Unfallen]

Ashley would be a strong defender, as would Wrex. I think Kaidan and Liara would both be among the weakest defenders, if they were there.

[Da_Lion_Man]

I think Wrex would be Garrus/Grunt/Zaeed tier.

The rest mid tier. Maybe Liara would be Tali/Kasumi/Jack/Mordin tier.

Modifié par Da_Lion_Man, 23 décembre 2010 - 03:16 .

[Bourne Endeavor]

Ashley and Wrex would be top tier. Ashley is arguably a superior tank than Wrex in ME. He trumps her only due to Krogan regen. Liara would be mid tier as I factor her similar to Samara. Kaidan would fall to low end unless he possessed Tech Armor. Although I suppose he could be mid level since Miranda is.

[Pacifien]

I think discussion in this thread should focus more on questions specific to the guide and speculation such as where the ME1 characters would fit in the grand scheme of things or whether Zaeed is a good leader could go in their own separate threads.

[Da_Lion_Man]

I need help, I can't figure out a way to let all 12 characters + the crew die. Yes I want all 12 characters.



The best I can come up with is everyone dying except for Joker and Dr. Chakwas.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

I need help, I can't figure out a way to let all 12 characters + the crew die. Yes I want all 12 characters.

The best I can come up with is everyone dying except for Joker and Dr. Chakwas.

Ironically, I was just trying to do this myself and came up with the following. I have not tested it as of yet though.

- No Heavy Ship Armor upgrade. (Jack dies)
- No Multicore Shielding upgrade. Take Thane and Kasumi to fight the Oculus. (Legion dies)
- No Thanix Cannon upgrade. (Garrus dies)
- Choice Thane or Jacob as the Tech Specialist. (Thane/Jacob dies)
- Choose a disloyal Jack as the Biotic bubble babe. Bring Miranda and Grunt. (Grunt dies)
- Choose Zaeed as the second fire team leader. (Zaeed dies)
- No escort. (Crew and Dr. Chakwas dies)
- Bring Miranda and Samara to fight Baby Reaperminator. (Miranda and Samara die)
- Holding the Line is defended by Thane/Jacob, Tali, Kasumi and Mordin. (They all die since only one would technically survive and we require two squad mates.)
- Shepard dies.

The one thing I am not certain about is Garrus. If I recall having Thane in your party should prevent him from being killed and thereby killing Garrus. If this was not already apparent. You cannot have the loyalty of pretty much anyone to assure they all die.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:09 .

[Da_Lion_Man]

Yeah, I think Garrus would die.

But doesn't the HTL score have to be 0.00 for all squad members to die? Thane/Jacob have a score of 1 so that would mess it up a bit.

Modifié par Da_Lion_Man, 24 décembre 2010 - 02:48 .

[Bourne Endeavor]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...



Yeah, I think Garrus would die.



But doesn't the HTL score have to be 0.00 for all squad members to die? Thane/Jacob have a score of 1 so that would mess it up a bit.

Hmm, I had originally thought it would leave you with only a single squad mate alive. Thus, the game would kill them off regardless but that seems to be a misread. It may not be possible to kill all twelve and the Chakwas then.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Hah, just noticed where I went wrong. I included Jack in the Hold the Line statistic. She's dead already. So you would have four squad mates. This would lead to three of them dying, leaving one alive. The game will automatically remedy this by killing all four due to your requirement of always having two squad mates. So my list would kill everyone including Chakwas.

[Da_Lion_Man]

Yeah, it should work. I guess you basically have to make sure Kasumi, Tali, Mordin and someone mid-tier are holding the line in the end.

[Cyberfrog81]

One teammate might actually visibly get on the ship, yet you see Joker failing to pull Shepard up, and there's also no trace of that single teammate in the final Normandy cutscene. So is that teammate dead, or not? I suppose it doesn't really matter, Shepard is dead and the story is over.

Though that is only if the "survivor" is with Shepard. I think. So it doesn't apply here.

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:47 .

[Da_Lion_Man]

Is it just me or is a loyal Miranda unkillable? I don't think you can kill her.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Indeed, she is unkillable. There is one exception, where you can trigger a glitch that has her abducted by the Seeker Swarms but she will Larazus herself in the next sense. Miranda can only be killed when brought to the final boss or left to Hold the Line.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

The key thing to remember she's a +2 squaddie when loyal... all the +1 when loyal squaddies are below her in the death list. So yup.... loyal Miranda = unkillable just like any of the other +2s

[realgangsta123]

Hi guys back after a year (not that anyone would care)

I have played the game 3 times in order to get the perfect playthrough and actually managed it on the 3rd go (autosave off) and i have one question. How do you romance kelly after the omega 4 relay. I have done all that's needed up to the point where she sobbed a bit and had a flashback like thane does but am not getting a message on my terminal. No current romances. Does anyone else have this problem?

[Bourne Endeavor]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

The key thing to remember she's a +2 squaddie when loyal... all the +1 when loyal squaddies are below her in the death list. So yup.... loyal Miranda = unkillable just like any of the other +2s

Not completely true. You can kill even a loyal squad mate in two scenarios. The Tech Expert will always die if you choose a disloyal Garrus, Miranda, Jacob or anyone else regardless. Likewise, if you choose a disloyal Samara, Jack or anyone else as your biotic bubble babe someone dies. Miranda is the only character that once loyal can never be killed in any given scenario unless you mod/glitch the game.

realgangsta123 wrote...

Hi guys back after a year (not that anyone would care)
I have played the game 3 times in order to get the perfect playthrough and actually managed it on the 3rd go (autosave off) and i have one question. How do you romance kelly after the omega 4 relay. I have done all that's needed up to the point where she sobbed a bit and had a flashback like thane does but am not getting a message on my terminal. No current romances. Does anyone else have this problem?

Not really the place to ask this but I shall answer anyhow. I will list the requirements...

- No active romance with another squad mate
- You must continuously choose the flirtatious dialogue
- You must have inquired if she is into aliens. This dialogue option is only available when she discusses Garrus, Tali or Thane. I believe that is during their respectively recruitment missions.
- You must take her to dinner in your cabin. This is triggered sometime after the Collector Ship or after recruiting Samara.
- She must be saved by immediately heading to the Omega 4 Relay following the crew abduction.
- In the epilogue, you must inquire if she is okay when talking to her about her ordeal.

My assumption is you missed the "Are you into aliens?" query because I had to dig just now about that. It is required because it eludes to her bi-sexuality and I suppose they left it for both genders. There is also mention she must be 'romanced' first. You are likely going to have to replay your file and I advise ignoring the three squad mates you can romance and only talk to Kelly.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 28 décembre 2010 - 04:00 .

[Leikn]

Mmmhm, I got all upgrades and loyalties~ I took Kasumi for Tech, Garrus for first lead, Mordin was sent to do the escort, Jack as the bio, and Jack and Tali at the end to fight the boss~ Result ? All of them survived~

~ ~ ~

So, I was wondering if I could romance Samara ? She turned me off even if she'd be interested in my Shep, because of her honor code and such~

Modifié par Leikn, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:18 .