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[Chugster]

Just wondering how much i would be gimping myself if i used medium/heavy armor on my rogue?

I just dont like the look the of the light armor, especially the helmets...

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Not game breaking, but I would suggest getting 32 strength and getting the other 6 from gear (helm of honnleath, key2city, andriul's blessing) use Wade's+Evon.

[Jestina]

You don't really need armour if you have lots of dex. Felon's coat doesn't look bad and you can get that from Wade's after doing two of the treaty quests...I think. You would gimp yourself some if you're dumping points into strength instead of dex and cun.

[Rhys Cordelle]

There's really no reason why you shouldn't, if that's what you want to do. If aesthetically pleasing characters will make you happy, then go for it.



There are some neat mods out there if you're on PC though. One in particular that comes to mind, the Armor of the Devout, is a shining example of how leather armors should have been made to look:

[Last Darkness]

Depends what kind of rogue you are but its certainly viable. I myself am walking around in a mix of leather and massive armor but I am a Str based rogue so I can do that.



I would not suggest it for a Cunning rogue as that would gimp you, and for a Dex based one....well you dont really need even light armor once you get the higher dex scores. If its aesthetics do what you will just know that going for just looking will always gimp your character in any game versus the people who go for pure stats.

[Elhanan]

I commonly use STR 38+ Rogues, and utilze Evons & Wade's Superior heavy mail. This help survive many encounters, esp those that use Overwhelm and Grab tactics. And I do not feel gimped at all, as my archers still hit 500+ shots, my DW specialists are able to clean foes quickly, and I am able to pick all my own locks, Stealth, etc.

It just isn't min/max perfection, but I can live with that....

[yasuraka.hakkyou]

if it makes you happy (and doesn't make the game F impossible), why the F not do it? my DNF rogue I'm planning on putting in the Legion of the Dead armor, 'cause it'll make me happy.

[ChaosRaident]

do what u want, its ur game anyway....

[Last Darkness]

^Elhanan has much wisdom but that setup dosnt work for everyone and alot of people still dont know about Evon+Wade set lol.



I forget what it is but theres a really viable gear setup that will give you 40% chance to evade all attacks, and if you get the Evasion talent that makes this even better.

[DWSmiley]

Last Darkness wrote...

I forget what it is but theres a really viable gear setup that will give you 40% chance to evade all attacks, and if you get the Evasion talent that makes this even better.

Spellward + Imperial Weavers + Reaper's Vestments + First Enchanter's Cowl.
Evasion is a mixed blessing as the animation interrupts your own attacks.

[Arttis]

Chugster wrote...

Just wondering how much i would be gimping myself if i used medium/heavy armor on my rogue?

I just dont like the look the of the light armor, especially the helmets...

get 22 str and equip wades drakeskin armor
Fatigue should be very low.

[Last Darkness]

DWSmiley wrote...

Last Darkness wrote...

I forget what it is but theres a really viable gear setup that will give you 40% chance to evade all attacks, and if you get the Evasion talent that makes this even better.

Spellward + Imperial Weavers + Reaper's Vestments + First Enchanter's Cowl.
Evasion is a mixed blessing as the animation interrupts your own attacks.

Theres a heavy armor version too, I forget which peices.  But indeed a mixed blessing.

[SupidSeep]

I just finished a run with a Str/Dex Dual-Dagger female Human Noble Rogue/Ranger/Duelist who wears Blood Dragon shortly after Fade, then Juggernaut and finally Wade's Superior Dragonbone for the last 3rd of the game. 

Started off going after Momentum, then after Fade bonuses, she pushed Strength to 38, left Cunning at 22 for Lockpicking 4, and poured all other points into Dex.  With +4 all stats from Key to the City and Audruil's Blessing, she could wear Superior Dragonbone.  Ended Origins at Level 22 with base Dex into the 60s

Heavy-armoured rogues shouldn't count on much backstabbing cos even with a dedicated Tank Warrior, the heavy armour still makes enemies gravitate towards you.  Hence Duelist is a better specialisation for the head-to-head combat a heavy armoured rogue would often face.  There would still be backstab opportunities, just not as much and most often setup by Dirty-Fighting > Coup-de-grace.

Still, I decide that I like my Rogue in Superior Dragonbone cos I hate the chest-revealing Superior Drakeskin (left it to Leiiana but still wince when I see her in it) and Superior Dragonskin/scale/bone gets additional fatigue and fatigue regen to offset the fatigue penality.
More importantly, I dig babes butt-kicking in plate armour  (yeah, I have a weird obession).

[Last Darkness]

SupidSeep wrote...

I just finished a run with a Str/Dex Dual-Dagger female Human Noble Rogue/Ranger/Duelist who wears Blood Dragon shortly after Fade, then Juggernaut and finally Wade's Superior Dragonbone for the last 3rd of the game. 

Started off going after Momentum, then after Fade bonuses, she pushed Strength to 38, left Cunning at 22 for Lockpicking 4, and poured all other points into Dex.  With +4 all stats from Key to the City and Audruil's Blessing, she could wear Superior Dragonbone.  Ended Origins at Level 22 with base Dex into the 60s

Heavy-armoured rogues shouldn't count on much backstabbing cos even with a dedicated Tank Warrior, the heavy armour still makes enemies gravitate towards you.  Hence Duelist is a better specialisation for the head-to-head combat a heavy armoured rogue would often face.  There would still be backstab opportunities, just not as much and most often setup by Dirty-Fighting > Coup-de-grace.

Still, I decide that I like my Rogue in Superior Dragonbone cos I hate the chest-revealing Superior Drakeskin (left it to Leiiana but still wince when I see her in it) and Superior Dragonskin/scale/bone gets additional fatigue and fatigue regen to offset the fatigue penality.
More importantly, I dig babes butt-kicking in plate armour  (yeah, I have a weird obession).

Whys everyone playing my Duelest/Ranger build all of a sudden lol

[SupidSeep]

Last Darkness wrote...

Whys everyone playing my Duelest/Ranger build all of a sudden lol

If you're refering to your 2-handed Barbarian Rogue, please note my rogue is at heart still a Dex-based Dual-Wield Rogue who had just enough Str to wear Superior Dragonbone.

And my first Duelist/Ranger finished the game in end-November 2009.

[Last Darkness]

SupidSeep wrote...

Last Darkness wrote...

Whys everyone playing my Duelest/Ranger build all of a sudden lol

If you're refering to your 2-handed Barbarian Rogue, please note my rogue is at heart still a Dex-based Dual-Wield Rogue who had just enough Str to wear Superior Dragonbone.

And my first Duelist/Ranger finished the game in end-November 2009.

Im just making fun, its just you didnt see Duelist/Ranger for the longest time and I like to combine the least used specs (See my Shapeshifter/bloodmage combo haha) its just im seeing ALOT of Duelist/Rangers with heavy armor now it seems. Its pretty fun I just wish I could be Berserker/Duelist lol