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[fro7k]

I have solved all the sidequests and talked to all the nobles, but I opted not to support Anora because I wanted Alistair on the throne with my female PC by his side.  And I keep losing (or drawing) the landsmeet (I get the first 4 votes for me, the last 2 against, and Anora against).

The DA wiki mentions the grand cleric, but I don't see him or a dialog option to obtain his support.  It also says talking to Wulff in the tavern before the landsmeet will get the last noble to support me but I did that and he does not (and why would he?  What's talking to Wulff got to do with that nameless noble?).

[mousestalker]

Talking to Wulf doesn't help.



To get the Grand Cleric to come in on your side you need to get Irminnric's ring from him in Howe's dungeon, then give the ring to his sister, Alfstanna, in the Gnawed Noble Tavern. Finally at Landsmeet discuss Loghain having Arl Eamon poisoned. If you do those steps, she will speak up against Loghain.

[fro7k]

Oh her. I thought she was a revered mother. Well I can get her support but it doesn't help me. So what about the last noble, how do I turn him around?

[Giggles_Manically]

Simplest way:

Lie to Anora that you will support her - Three points

While killing Howe explore further into the Dungeon:

If not a city elf release Vaughan to get his vote: 1 point

Find the lost templar get his ring and give it to his sister:1 point

Sister talks to Chantry MOther about that :2 points

Do the trial of Crows quest line, till after the hostage "Rescue":1 point from the noble you helped

Rescue the man on the torture rack near the start of Arl's Estate :1 point

In the landsmeet say "The blight is the problem not Orlasis :1 point



Do not bring up Alistair's right to rule, loghain abandoning the King.

Do bring up Slavery, poisioning of Eamon, and the templar.



Duel Loghain yourself, kill him, dont even listen to Riordian, then declare that you will rule with Alistair easy as pie.



Done the Landsmeet about 8 times so I have it down pat at this point.

[fro7k]

Sister talks to Chantry MOther about that :2 points

How do you make that happen?

Do the trial of Crows quest line, till after the hostage "Rescue":1 point from the noble you helped

I think I screwed up this one; I completed the trials but then went on to slay Ignacio.



I think I've made some wrong turns and I'll have to backtrack hours of gameplay to fix it.

[Giggles_Manically]

If you save Alfstansas brother you get her vote, but you have to bring up the poisioning of Eamon to get the chantry mother on your side.



Dont kill Ignacio at the end, and you get that guys vote.

[fro7k]

I'm still wondering how the very last noble votes for you.

[Giggles_Manically]

One noble will always vote against you no matter what you do.



Let me guess some old guy who sounded like piglet.

[RavenousBear]

I killed Master Ignacio in the past and received that vote from the noble; just complete the trials and he will vote for you.

[Giggles_Manically]

Why you kill masta IGNACIO! WHY! his voice is awsome and he promises to stop the crows outside of Tailisen from coming after you.

[RavenousBear]

Bring It I say!

[fro7k]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

One noble will always vote against you no matter what you do.

Let me guess some old guy who sounded like piglet.

That's the second-to-last noble, not the last one (on the floor not on the balcony).

[Giggles_Manically]

Or you could just show them this and win on the DDDDDAAAAAAWWWWWWWW vote.

[RavenousBear]

I remember trying on purpose to lose the Landsmeet once (throwing out the betraying the King/you must bow to Alistair lines) when I completed the Trial of the Crows and that noble turned against me, so your arguments may sway him to change his mind even if you rescue his son.

[fro7k]

Looks like even if you lose the landsmeet the people who side with or against you has an effect; they'll be either green or red circled (ally or hostile) during the ensuing battle. You can leech a lot of xp out of this battle.

[Giggles_Manically]

Most fights are easy peasy for my Bersekring-Templar 2Hander now. Never actually lost the Landsmeet since I love saying "HA you lose!" to Loghain

[Master Shiori]

The old fool who speaks from the balcony will always support Loghain.



The last guy on the floor will vote for anyone who has Anora's support. However, there is supposed to be a way to get his vote without Anora's support.

When she speaks for Loghain simply say she promised to aid you and call her a liar. That should make the noble side with you.



(haven't tested this so it might be wrong)

[Addai]

fro7k wrote...

I have solved all the sidequests and talked to all the nobles, but I opted not to support Anora because I wanted Alistair on the throne with my female PC by his side.  And I keep losing (or drawing) the landsmeet (I get the first 4 votes for me, the last 2 against, and Anora against).

The DA wiki mentions the grand cleric, but I don't see him or a dialog option to obtain his support.  It also says talking to Wulff in the tavern before the landsmeet will get the last noble to support me but I did that and he does not (and why would he?  What's talking to Wulff got to do with that nameless noble?).

Talking to Wulff does help, but only if you choose "The Blight is the threat here, not Orlais."  He'll speak up and ask Loghain if he's going to let the Blight take the whole country, etc., and will vote for the Wardens.

I think everything else has been covered already.  I've done this quite a bit because I actually like the LM rumble.  There must be some randomization because even choosing all the same options, one of my PCs won the vote 1 out of 3 times.  I was so disappointed when I won the first time that I reloaded.    Then when I lost the 2nd time, I did it again to see what would happen.

[fro7k]

Okay, now I want to know how to rule beside alistair as queen. With a cunning of 76 and max coercion I couldn't pass the persuasion check, he just says it wouldn't work with me not having noble blood. Is there a way to make this work?

[RavenousBear]

You have to be HNF to be Queen of Ferelden.

[Giggles_Manically]

Sucks to be an elf, dwarf, commenor, or mage PC it does it does.

[mousestalker]

If you harden Alistair you can persuade him to have you as his mistress on the side. Anora is actually cool with that. Which says a lot about Anora, IMHO.

[Giggles_Manically]

Well Anora is only interested in Alistair politically, so I doubt she cares if he is happy with someone else. Monarhs back then where loco.

[sylvanaerie]

I always go with:



Vaughan released

Rescued Irminric (give ring to Alfstanna)

Rescued Bann Sigard's son in Howe's dungeon

Start off Landsmeet with "I didn't betray Ferelden" (gets Bryland's vote)

Do Trial of Crows (unnamed nobleman's vote)

Mention the blight in a second line of choices later (gets Wulff's vote).

Ceorlic always votes for Loghain (rebel without a clue)



If you tell Anora go to hell earlier (or don't talk to her at all) she turns on you and that nobleman on the ground floor always seemed to go her way in the votes.

If you tell her you will support her, she will back you up.



I've only lost the Landsmeet once and that was on purpose. Most fun I have ever had at the three ring circus that is the Landsmeet.

[Giggles_Manically]

Cant you also lose Anora's support if you tell her Loghain must die.