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[matt-bassist]

What happens in ME2? Are there any conversation choices about missing her?

Thanks

[Darthnemesis2]

necromance FTW!!!

[matt-bassist]

Uh I remember in ME1 Kaiden talks to you about your feelings for her. And I thought it was pretty obvious that you could begin the romance BEFORE Vermire... And if you let Kaiden die, doesn't Ash say he died because of us (Her and Shep)?

Sleeping with her isn't where the romance begins genius.

[Darthnemesis2]

I don't really know, there might be some kind of reference but you probably get the generic "you betrayed the alliance!!!1111one" speach from Kaidan

[drunken pyromaniac]

Unfortunately no, that's how I created my single Shep for ME2. I was hoping for some "love lost and found again" vibes. No such luck.

[Dizfactor]

Obviously you cant romance her if she is dead, but she doesn't have to die....

[matt-bassist]

Why do you guys keep saying you can't romance her if she's dead??? You could start the romance long before Virmire! Just because she wasn't alive at the end doesn't mean the romance is suddenly null and void. Come on people.
On a positive note, thanks to pyro for actually answering my question. Damn.

Modifié par matt-bassist, 23 juin 2010 - 04:39 .

[drunken pyromaniac]

matt-bassist wrote...

Why do you guys keep saying you can't romance her if she's dead??? You could start the romance long before Virmire! Just because she wasn't alive at the end doesn't mean the romance is suddenly null and void. Come on people.
On a positive note, thanks to pyro for actually answering my question. Damn.

Sure thing.
They really missed the chance to insert  a little more humanity into Shepard by having a little pining for his lost love.

[matt-bassist]

Well then that answers my question as well. Basically, even though you started romancing her but then decided it was best she dies on Virmire, you show no remorse or regret in ME2, not even a bit of sadness if her name is brought up. Lazy writing on Biowares part I guess.

[matt-bassist]

Indeed Pyro... Indeed.

[Eternal Density]

Yeah, it shouldn't be 'null and void' but for gameplay purposes it is, thanks to Bioware not bothering with it. Oh well. Maybe they'll do better in ME3 (e.g. "Hell hath no fury like a quarian scorned")

[ResidentNoob]

matt-bassist wrote...

Why do you guys keep saying you can't romance her if she's dead??? You could start the romance long before Virmire! Just because she wasn't alive at the end doesn't mean the romance is suddenly null and void.

Sorry, but yes it does. Essentially, if you didn't sleep with her, then the game doesn't register that you had a romance with her. Since she died on Virmire, the game thinks that you were single all the way through ME1.<_<

[Dave of Canada]

ResidentNoob wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Why do you guys keep saying you can't romance her if she's dead??? You could start the romance long before Virmire! Just because she wasn't alive at the end doesn't mean the romance is suddenly null and void.

Sorry, but yes it does. Essentially, if you didn't sleep with her, then the game doesn't register that you had a romance with her. Since she died on Virmire, the game thinks that you were single all the way through ME1.<_<

I told her off when she came to my chambers for sexy time, it's still a romance in the sequel.

[Fiery Phoenix]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Unfortunately no, that's how I created my single Shep for ME2. I was hoping for some "love lost and found again" vibes. No such luck.

This kind of happens to Thane if you romance him as a female Shepard.

[Crunchyinmilk]

I fixed this (sort of).

On one of my ME1 games I flirted with Ashley and Liara but chose Ashley at the confrontation. Then on Virmire (without going into why) I saved Kaiden.

Importing into ME2 I was a little upset that it was Kaiden who wanted to go down with me and the ship in the introduction (I was expecting Liara, especially after reading the prequel comic). Also, in my quarters on the SR2, no picture at all.

So I edited the save in Gibbed save editor. In the ME1 plot flags I ticked 'Romancing Someone' and ticked both 'Romancing Ashley', and 'Romancing Liara' and also 'Saved Kaiden'. Then in the values section I set romance progress with Ashley to 6 (sex), and romance progress with Liara to 4 (which is what Ashley gets to if you romance her but she dies on Virmire). Finally changing the ending to LivedToFightAgain I started a new game with ME2 import.

The result was that during the introduction, it's Liara who's ready to go down with you in flames, and when you get to your quarters on the SR2, Ashley's picture is there to moon over.

I haven't played through to Illium or Horizon yet, but Miranda and Jacob do say it was Ashley Williams who died on Virmire... Not that this is proof positive she won't 'resurrect' and show up on Horizon. On my first save editing attempt on this issue, I only set the flags for Romancing Someone & Romancing Ashley, and Saved Kaiden. This resulted in zombie Ashley ready to go down in flames (again?) with me in the introduction.

Looking forward to see how it turns out (on horizon in particular) and if setting Liara's flag will result in the 'kiss'.

Modifié par Crunchyinmilk, 23 juin 2010 - 07:54 .

[matt-bassist]

woah you just changed history man... crazy! LOL if Ash is on Horizon though!

[Crunchyinmilk]

But if she isn't, this just became my 'cannon' play through.

[nubbers666]

you can romance her but you cant finsh it if she dies there for has no real story on me2

[Kaylord]

I went the same route; romancing Ashley but having to sacrifice her in order to protect the bomb - which is guarded by the more tech-skilled Kaidan - until it goes off. I had hoped, too, for some more tragic roleplay, but the game does not recognize this at all.

@Crunchyinmilk: Thanks for that idea, I will try this out. The idea of Liara being a compassionate - but hopeless - comrade after Ashley is gone fits well to the theme of tragic love. Please do keep us informed how this tweaking turns out on Horizon!

Modifié par Kaylord, 23 juin 2010 - 12:51 .

[Crunchyinmilk]

Crunchyinmilk wrote...
The result was that during the introduction, it's Liara who's ready to go down with you in flames, and when you get to your quarters on the SR2, Ashley's picture is there to moon over.

Just necroing this to say that Kaiden turned up on Horizon and Liara kissed Shep instead of just the friendly hug... so it all looks good.

I don't know if he'd look longingly at Ash's picture prior to entering the Omega 4 relay yet (yeah I play slow).

[Morboth]

I wanted to resurrect this just to ask something: can I romance Ash, then get her to die and then romance Liara in ME1?