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[Fexelea]

180-190 degrees is 40 degrees over the normal 135-150 for others stores, as provided in other links. Make some coffee at home and test it. Mine comes at 120 on cup after sitting 1 minute. If there are numerous third degree burn cases for numerous establishments, then this issue should be regulated on, not established as "normal". Toy companies must recall toys with parts that have even an inkling of something that *could* *potentially* be harmful if tasted, even when toys are not supposed to be put in your mouth. Why shouldn't we treat food providers to the same standard when it comes to something as easy to solve as placing a warning or reducing the temperature to something closer to the at-home temperature?



You can continue to believe this case was needless. I think it was blown out of proportion by a press that was more than willing to make it sound like a frivolous lawsuit (saying she was driving, etc), when the reality is that McDonalds should have had warnings from the start, and thus avoided accidents.

[Seagloom]

SleeplessInSigil wrote...

I just realized that it's often been the other way around for me; my opinion only gets reversed if it's shared by people I can't stand. i.e. if I like something already but I see a bunch of idiots liking it too, I start disliking the product itself  yeah, messed up. Does anyone else get like that?


A ready case in point: Dragon Age. I love that game (as apparent from my early posting history) but when I saw most of its fans hating here on other games for reasons that would make DA itself inferior to yet other games, I was a bit appalled and put off from following the franchise for a while, through no fault of the product itself.

I don't get that myself. I have no serious issues with Dragon Age despite feeling Shadows of Amn is superior. However, I still believe it's a good game. I haven't managed to finish Origins *once* due to indecision and burnout, but I still want to *try*. That says positive and negative things about it. I like to think mostly positive, as I'm not one who is easily motivated to play most games.

Often I end up on the side claiming Dragon Age has this or that problem, but I still can't relate to anyone claiming it's a bad game. No amount of love or hatewould convince me Dragon Age isn't worth playing. It's a bit funny to write, but, sometimes you have to be close-minded in order to be open-minded. Some folks like to rage for its own sake or to follow the crowd. Others might have a few legitimate criticisms but bury them under hyperbolic insults. While others still can't accept change and/or cling to nostalgic memories that may not hold up under scrutiny. It's made me extremely cautious of buying into 99.9% of what I read. It's the rare individual who can objectively evaluate a product without a hint of rancor or bias.

Modifié par Seagloom, 25 juin 2010 - 12:50 .

[Loerwyn]

Fexelea wrote...

180-190 degrees is 40 degrees over the normal 135-150 for others stores, as provided in other links. Make some coffee at home and test it. Mine comes at 120 on cup after sitting 1 minute. If there are numerous third degree burn cases for numerous establishments, then this issue should be regulated on, not established as "normal". Toy companies must recall toys with parts that have even an inkling of something that *could* *potentially* be harmful if tasted, even when toys are not supposed to be put in your mouth. Why shouldn't we treat food providers to the same standard when it comes to something as easy to solve as placing a warning or reducing the temperature to something closer to the at-home temperature?

Toy makers have to conform to different safety standards, because some chemicals that can find their way into toys and similar products (see the Shrek 4 glasses recently) are toxic and can even cause death. They shouldn't be in those products at all, hence why they recall them. Coffee is made at high temperatures and sold as a hot beverage, one which comes with health risks if you're not careful.

You can continue to believe this case was needless. I think it was blown out of proportion by a press that was more than willing to make it sound like a frivolous lawsuit (saying she was driving, etc), when the reality is that McDonalds should have had warnings from the start, and thus avoided accidents.

And if they did? I find it hard to believe that the cup didn't have a "Caution: Contents may be hot" label. What should they do instead - supply the cup with someone to carry it around for you? Maybe I should sue the company who made the knife that cut through the tendon in one of my fingers because I was reckless with it. The woman in that lawsuit pulled a cup of hot liquid that she knew was hot towards herself as she held it in an unsecure position, i.e. between her knees. Yes, it sucks that she got burnt, but even if it was a bit cooler she still would have suffered some form of injury. At the end of the day, she wasn't careful with the product and found herself injured - McDonalds had nothing to do with it as soon as it was out of their hands.

[Fexelea]

OS, the warnings in the cups are precisely prevalent because of this woman. And I would not think that she was right to sue if they had had the same warnings as they do today back then.



The served coffee was abnormally hot for a cup of coffee. This is McDonalds doing and their coffee temperature policy is not conductive to safety.



The recalled toys are not always about dangerous chemicals: http://www.cpsc.gov/...ml10/10741.html

http://www.cpsc.gov/...ml10/10736.html



If toys break, it can be ingested... recall!

[SleeplessInSigil]

Darth Jayder wrote...

You are all wrong by the way.

Your argument is invalid.

[sweetnsassy]

depends on the person and the subject matter,sometimes yes but more than likely no.

[sweetnsassy]

McDonalds had nothing to do with it as soon as it was out of their hands.

actually the reason she received so much money was because the VP from McDonalds testifyed under oath that although they knew the coffee was hot enough to cause severe burns they wanted their coffe hotter than anyone elses and despite numerous complaints from customers before that accident they decided to do nothing.That woman had numerous skin grafts to her thighs and vagina.The jury wanted to teach McDonalds a lesson and they did.Thats why she was awarded a huge settlement.

[SleeplessInSigil]

Darth Jayder wrote...

SleeplessInSigil wrote...

Darth Jayder wrote...

You are all wrong by the way.

Your argument is invalid.

In your dreams

Exactly. That's how easy it is to prove it invalid.

[sweetnsassy]

Maviarab wrote...

Yes.
I used to think humanity had a glimmer of hope of long term survivability.

But an hour on the internet will tell you it has not....

 that's awesome!

[Ghost Lightning]

Darth Jayder wrote...

You didn't prove anything.  Don't forget...I am always right...always!!

I used to think that everyone together didn't know everything. Then I went on the internet and found Darth Jayder. My world has never been the same.

[JRCHOharry]

McDonalds burnt someones vagina? I arrived just in time

*sits*

Modifié par JRCHOharry, 25 juin 2010 - 05:11 .

[Ghost Lightning]

Did you know there's a McDonald's on every continent? True story.

[JRCHOharry]

Darth Jayder wrote...

JRCHOharry wrote...

McDonalds burnt someones vagina? I arrived just in time

*sits*

this....excites you ...in some way JRCHOharry?

This doesn't excite me Darht. It seems like an interesting story which you don't hear everyday. Gummy Bear?

*shakes gummy bear bag*

[mousestalker]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Did you know there's a McDonald's on every continent? True story.

Including Antarctica? Cool

[Ghost Lightning]

mousestalker wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Did you know there's a McDonald's on every continent? True story.

Including Antarctica? Cool

Yep even there. Blew my mind right out of the water.

[mousestalker]

Wikipedia says no.

[Ghost Lightning]

mousestalker wrote...

Wikipedia says no.

Every continent has one. Not every country.

[SleeplessInSigil]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Yep even there. Blew my mind right out of the water.

Why were you drowning in the first place?