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Dragon Age: Orgins, single best RPG of the modern time


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kelsjet

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Looking back, now that DA:O has been out and about for over 6 months, I can say with a very high level of certainty that Dragon Age: Origins is the best RPG of the current time.

I have always been a player more focused on game mechanics (like combat systems and class design), but DAO has made me appreciate the finer things in an RPG, things which, in hindsight, I should have considered with more weight in the first place.

Firstly, it is hard to appreciate the true depth of the game's lore on first play-through. Naturally then, a concept that is core to the RPG genre can be initially missed, that being, the story and the world and setting of Dragon Age. I find the world of Dragon Age remarkably rich and deep to the point where I am pleased at having the chance of experiencing it. This is the first sign of a fantastic RPG, one that not only sells you the world that it has you playing in, but leaves you wondering about it long after you have pressed the exit button.

The next thing that is becoming very apparent to me, is how much of an impact the little touches have. These could be the long chats with my party in camp where Wynne parts some epic wisdom to my mage PC, or where I sit through yet another humorous story of the very girly Leliana. Either way, I find that it is hard to quantify just how much of an effect these little touches have on the gameplay experience. Perhaps we take these things for granted in our first few playthroughs, but I find that they most certainly add up over time and add to the richness of the experience.

I would not be satisfied if the game was all story and no meat though. As I stated earlier, I am a core "gameplay mechanics" kind of gamer at heart. Having played many of the 'old school' RPGs, I am very critical of things such as the combat system and class structure and design. While hesitant at first, I do find that DAO's combat and class design is definitely up to par with what I would expect from a more 'traditional' RPG, especially if we normalize our expectations given the current "casual gamer" climate. True, the system(s) could be better, have more options and even a little more depth, but don't let this fool you. I can say without much hesitation now that DAO's combat mechanics and class design is more solid and deeper then pretty much anything out there on the market right now.

I have always found it amazing how most game reviewers can sit down and over the course of a weekend or so, submit a review for a game, especially nowadays where games are becoming more and more complex. While I do know that DAO did very well in the reviews, I still do not think most reviewers could have truly grasped in those short few days not only the true magic of DAO, but the importance of having such a game exist in the market today.

Either way, I guess this post isn't really trying to make much of a point or say anything that we all didn't already know at some level. Thanks really does go out to the Dragon Age: Origins team for putting together a fine RPG experience. Hopefully, Bioware can continue on in this fashion into the future, well past we have weathered the storm of 'watered down casual gamer' shallow gameplay experiences. It is my hope that Bioware does not fall victim to this 'casual gamer' storm, and that they continue to provide us with deep, rich gameplay worlds where we can experience the fantasy and magic of what the RPG genre really stands for.

I leave you now with a thanks, and I hope you all are continuing to enjoy Dragon Age: Origins as much as I am :)

- Kel S'jet

Modifié par kelsjet, 27 juin 2010 - 04:12 .


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CybAnt1

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I think it's very good, but the problem with these comparisons is there isn't much current competition.



I'm not saying I don't like it, but one reason I am playing it is the genre (by that I mean NON action RPGs that are single player & party based) is a bit thin. I wish there were more things to compare it against.








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RPGs are like gold dust, very thin on the ground. Whilst DAO is good and has it's merits, I suspect that DAO2 will be even better, provided Bioware has listened to it's fanbase.




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MindYerBeak wrote...

RPGs are like gold dust, very thin on the ground. Whilst DAO is good and has it's merits, I suspect that DAO2 will be even better, provided Bioware has listened to it's fanbase.


I dunno....you can always listen to the fans TOO much.

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DAO is far from the greatest RPG of "modern times". If you mean the past year or so, then sure, I won't disagree too strongly, but it's certainly not the greatest.

Too many missed opportunities, too little polish, stat system that needs work... Nah, not the greatest.

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MindYerBeak wrote...

RPGs are like gold dust, very thin on the ground. 


Definitely on the PS3 they are :)

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lol if the game looked better graphicly/art direction wise, a more robust cinematic quality, a more robust soundtrack as well along with more stylized & unique armors i'd agree, it's the only things keeping dragon age from being perfect.

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Kail Ashton wrote...

lol if the game looked better graphicly/art direction wise, a more robust cinematic quality, a more robust soundtrack as well along with more stylized & unique armors i'd agree, it's the only things keeping dragon age from being perfect.

Not a fan of Inon Zur's soundtrack? I quite like it, personally, and it stands up on its own which some soundtracks don't.

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Dragon Age is part of my holy trinity of unsurpassed RPG experiences, along with Knights of the Old Republic and Vampire: Bloodlines.

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If 'modern time' = the year 2009, then I tend to agree with OP.

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In my opinion, Dragon Age is the greatest WRPG for consoles this generation. Though when I pick up my copy of Demon's Souls next week I may have a change of heart.

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virumor wrote...

If 'modern time' = the year 2009, then I tend to agree with OP.


This is kind of what I meant, though I am not limiting it to just 2009.

I guess I was looking for a word or phrase that would encompass the past 3 to 4 years or so, which, in my mind at least, is the "modern era of videogames", an era which is defined by some important events such as the first, widespread use of multicore processors, the modern "next-gen" console platforms being widely used, the spread of non-publisher based gaming (steam, direct downloads, etc) and the birth of the DLC (episodic pay-to-play) game model amongst other things.

It is important for me to clarify that I am not saying that DA:O is the "best RPG of all time". But that does not preclude the fact that it is worthy of the "best RPG of the modern time" award, which is still an accomplishment to write home about.

Modifié par kelsjet, 26 juin 2010 - 06:48 .


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It depends, story and character depth wise? Shmaybe. Game mechanic wise? hells no, at least as far as my personal taste go.  If they had focused more on the tactical aspects and less on the hack and slash aspects, it might get my vote, for whatever my vote might be worth.

Modifié par relhart, 26 juin 2010 - 06:54 .


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I think Oblivion was a little better because of the ultimate freedom, and the graphics were breathtaking. I'm sorry, but there are games other than DA out there.



If you love smooth gameplay, you should check out Demon's Souls for that matter. There isn't any storyline to the game, but its one of the smoothest games I've ever played.

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Valkyria Chronicles imo is the RPG of the modern times with the best combat. The setting was pretty interesting as well, being a knock-off of WWII Europe.




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virumor wrote...

Valkyria Chronicles imo is the RPG of the modern times with the best combat. The setting was pretty interesting as well, being a knock-off of WWII Europe.


I wouldn't put VC in the same RPG sack as the others. VC is mostly a strategic shooter with some RPG elements and a story based on japanese animè.

Though, in a sense, I agree with you. Valkyria Chronicles is one of my favorite games.

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As much as I liked the overall DA:O experience, I think there's a lot of room for improvement. The general mechanics of DAO are a little sub-par. I think it will take them a bit of time to create something as robust as the tabletops RPGs in terms of variety. People need to remember that this is a game as well, not just interactive storytelling.



Maybe if they added some procedural content to have better variety in the weapons and armor similar to Borderlands or the Diablo-class of games, it might work well.


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YO BROS, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE GRITTY, DARK, MATURE, DARK GRITTY AND HEROIC FANTASY THAT IS DRAGONAGE ORIGINS AND THE DEEPNESS OF IT'S CHARACTERS.

TOTALLY AWESOME GAME WITH ITS DARK, MATURE, MATURE, GRITTY, DARK, HEROIC AND MATURE THEMES.


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MrFireal wrote...

virumor wrote...

Valkyria Chronicles imo is the RPG of the modern times with the best combat. The setting was pretty interesting as well, being a knock-off of WWII Europe.


I wouldn't put VC in the same RPG sack as the others. VC is mostly a strategic shooter with some RPG elements and a story based on japanese animè.

Though, in a sense, I agree with you. Valkyria Chronicles is one of my favorite games.

Man that game was hard and fun the plot was so so but good gameplay makes up for it I don't know how Sega did it.

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I love it, I've played a helluva lot of rpgs and games in general over the years, but never have I felt so emotionally connected with a world and the characters in it as I have in Dragon Age. It's a fantastic piece of work.

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I would say it is the best RPG since Oblivion.


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Its one of the best recent RPG's, but in my estimation BG II and Morrowind, both for different reasons, are still the kings.

As for Oblivion, it was only interesting for me after a million mods and what not.  It felt...dead compared to Morrowind.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 27 juin 2010 - 04:28 .


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I have to agree with the OP. Dragon Age and KOTOR are the only RPGs I've ever really played through single player. I was obsessed with KOTOR for the time that I played it, but I only played through it one or two times.



Dragon Age I enjoyed even more than KOTOR, AND I spent longer in a single playthrough...then I played through it 2-3 more times after that. And now I reinstalled it to play through AGAIN.



It's one of the best games I've ever played period, and by a good margin the best SP RPG experience.


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OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Kail Ashton wrote...

lol if the game looked better graphicly/art direction wise, a more robust cinematic quality, a more robust soundtrack as well along with more stylized & unique armors i'd agree, it's the only things keeping dragon age from being perfect.

Not a fan of Inon Zur's soundtrack? I quite like it, personally, and it stands up on its own which some soundtracks don't.


lol he's allright, don't get me wrong(did like his fallout 3 work), but way too often i'm running around the game with no background music at all, thus i'd like a more robust soundtrack, maybe it's the JRPG old schooler in me, but i prefer to have a catchy uniue background music everywhere i go

Yasunori Mitsuda would bring the epic to the soundtrack

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 27 juin 2010 - 09:42 .


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Kail Ashton wrote...

lol he's allright, don't get me wrong(did like his fallout 3 work), but way too often i'm running around the game with no background music at all, thus i'd like a more robust soundtrack, maybe it's the JRPG old schooler in me, but i prefer to have a catchy uniue background music everywhere i go

Yasunori Mitsuda would bring the epic to the soundtrack


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