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[Goat_Shepard]

Collider wrote...

To hear about Sidonis fear or his misery will make him appear grey. Garrus doesn't want that.

That is so true.

I missed the option to talk to Sidonis I swear, this is killin me. And 4 playthroughs all killing the little bastard. Now I know why that mission wasn't so epic for me. Disappoint I am.

@Collider
mmmmmmm-naaahhhhh. It's far too serious for that thread.

TOP OF PAGE 100 B!TCHES!!









Man, I almost feel bad for him.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 14 juillet 2010 - 07:03 .

[Collider]

@Collider

mmmmmmm-naaahhhhh. It's far too serious for that thread.

No it isn't. I'd like to talk about it with you.

[Goat_Shepard]

Please, Collider, you're being off topic.

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I like grey missions so long as they don't feel didactic. Sometimes I think Bioware beats you over the head with them. Grey is USUALLY the case, but it is not ALWAYS the case. There are still Gandhis and Hitlers running around. They are rare but they do exist. And sometimes there are happy endings. No happy endings ever is just as unrealistic as always having one. That's why DA Awakenings got on my nerves. It felt like a postmodernist sermon to me.

Interesting, you are correct, those areas are added for flavor and roleplaying and....actually testing your mind (or butchering it ) overall I'm glad Garrus' mission is going to stress me out, and I'll probably love Awakenings, too.

[Collider]

I agree with you. Although I've seen some people who said it's best to stop Garrus so Garrus doesn't think that violence will solve everything (roleplaying wise).



I felt that the Heretic decision was rather gray. Either way it feels like I'm "killing" the Heretics.

[J4N3_M3]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Now Harkin DID deserve to be shot. See, that's not grey at all. Harkin is a bastard without exception or qualification.

really? never let Garrus shot him. Always had C-Sec taking care of him. Loved, how Garrus punched him before leaving though and then makes this remark to Shep about how he did NOT shoot him. xD 

And YAY, happy 100! 

And I love grey missions. i like that not everything is black and white. I love making decisions. And the fact that I sometimes just leave the game for about 30 minutes just to make one haha.

Modifié par J4N3_M3, 14 juillet 2010 - 07:10 .

[Kim Shepard]

MainShep killed Sidonis the first chance she got - you don't get to hear his side of the story that way, but it's not like MainShep cared about his side. (She also let Garrus shoot Harkin and said she wouldn't have shot him in the leg. She's still mad at him for flirting with her in ME1.) Some will choose the option to make him talk and then kill him because they feel Garrus would get more closure that way.

Besides, they would be such hypocrites if they stopped Garrus. If the situation were reversed, they wouldn't want to be stopped. Some of them would shoot through their teammates if they got in the way. But I think I have more Renegades/Renegons than you guys. xD

Most of the choices are easy for me when I get the character planned out. It took a while for me to decide what MainShep should do about the heretic geth though. In the end, she rewrote them. Her morals don't come into play at all during that mission - she really had no opinion on them, no feeling for or against them, and just wanted Legion to make the choice. Of course, if someone just told her "you'll probably get a geth army like Saren if you save them", it would have ended that debate.

[Goat_Shepard]

Collider wrote...

I agree with you. Although I've seen some people who said it's best to stop Garrus so Garrus doesn't think that violence will solve everything (roleplaying wise).

I felt that the Heretic decision was rather gray. Either way it feels like I'm "killing" the Heretics.

Fat chance, Garrus is just rad like that, and as long as I spare Sidonis we should be good. Now I can split that mission between my paragon and "renegade" Shepard! Sweet!

And I guess my mind's been change on the Heretic thing...I usually always try to convince/brainwash something to be on my side before outright destroying it, but that doesn't make it black and white, I guess.

@J4N3_M3
Indeed, I don't think your decision can lose any Garrus badassery as far as Harkin goes. And I too still sit idle on decisions for far too long, especially when I've been in these situations over and over

@Ragabul
I myself thought he was a little rough with Harkin...as much as my scum sense was tingling towards Harkin, it didn't feel like a personal thing between him and Garrus besides information. To be honest, Garrus seemed a little psycho in that mission, but I loved the intensity.

"KEEP RUNNING HARKIN WE'LL FIND YOU!"

"Holy crap Garrus, I'm gunna make your day".

[Goat_Shepard]

Kim Shepard wrote...

MainShep killed Sidonis the first chance she got - you don't get to hear his side of the story that way, but it's not like MainShep cared about his side. (She also let Garrus shoot Harkin and said she wouldn't have shot him in the leg. She's still mad at him for flirting with her in ME1.) Some will choose the option to make him talk and then kill him because they feel Garrus would get more closure that way.

Besides, they would be such hypocrites if they stopped Garrus. If the situation were reversed, they wouldn't want to be stopped. Some of them would shoot through their teammates if they got in the way. But I think I have more Renegades/Renegons than you guys. xD

Oooh I see, so if you don't "step out of the way" first chance, you can hear what Sidonis has to say? It seemed so clear-cut, I'm gunna have my vision tested I think, all my playthroughs are forfeit.

And I figured out why I rewrote the Heretics; didn't Legion say 3 more processes preferred rewriting to destruction?
Yeah, I'm that simple

[J4N3_M3]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

MainShep killed Sidonis the first chance she got - you don't get to hear his side of the story that way, but it's not like MainShep cared about his side. (She also let Garrus shoot Harkin and said she wouldn't have shot him in the leg. She's still mad at him for flirting with her in ME1.) Some will choose the option to make him talk and then kill him because they feel Garrus would get more closure that way.

Besides, they would be such hypocrites if they stopped Garrus. If the situation were reversed, they wouldn't want to be stopped. Some of them would shoot through their teammates if they got in the way. But I think I have more Renegades/Renegons than you guys. xD

Oooh I see, so if you don't "step out of the way" first chance, you can hear what Sidonis has to say? It seemed so clear-cut, I'm gunna have my vision tested I think, all my playthroughs are forfeit.

And I figured out why I rewrote the Heretics; didn't Legion say 3 more processes preferred rewriting to destruction?
Yeah, I'm that simple

haha, I went for that too....that and I had this OMGSRSLWTFBBQ GETH ARMY ON MY SIDE voice in my head.....i don't care if that will actually happen in ME3 or not, but that voice just NEVER goes away......it's ALWAYS there! 

[Goat_Shepard]

J4N3_M3 wrote...
haha, I went for that too....that and I had this OMGSRSLWTFBBQ GETH ARMY ON MY SIDE voice in my head.....i
don't care if that will actually happen in ME3 or not, but that voice just NEVER goes away......it's ALWAYS there!

lol doesn't help that everyone says after that and the genophage cure research and everything that Shepard is practically Saren

This has been fun. I'd love to stay and chat longer but



"Aww, cmon Garrus, it's page 100, practically your birthday"

"Then my birthday wish is for you to leave me to my calibrations"

"Fine! And even though I know you'll blow me off again, I'm gunna come back tomorrow for a chat! Whata you say about that?"

"Can it wait for a bit?"

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 14 juillet 2010 - 07:42 .

[J4N3_M3]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

On the Heretic decision, I tend to be very, VERY leery of brain-police "I'll make you think like I think" stuff. I guess that's just the American in me. We are big on that 1st amendment (even when it means scary people like the Klan get to rant.) However, I like Legion's reasoning there. "The Heretics have chosen to taken away our right to self-determinate with this virus. We choose to defend ourselves." So the American/theist in me says that killing them is better than taking away their very identity, but the pragmatist in me says "they understood the potential consequences when they made this decision" and "having multiple more billion geth defying the Reapers really helps my long term goals to defeat them." So I usually rewrite them, but I feel dirty doing it.

I don't! 

[Kim Shepard]

MainShep likes the idea of becoming more like Saren. She has her krogan/geth/rachni army. And yeah, the fact that Legion's concensus was slightly in favor of the rewrite was the main reason she chose that option.

[Collider]

The True Geth are still aligned against the Reapers no matter what you do. The Heretics are many, but they are only 5% of the "Geth." I saw destroying them both punishment for they're actions against organics and their continued violent animosity towards them, and the preventing them (obviously) from believing in the same anti-organic dogma.

Modifié par Collider, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:01 .

[Chimervera]

*Gasp!*
I'm home in time for page 100!

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Because we can always use more Zombie Garrus [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Chimervera, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:14 .