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Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion

Débuté par Chimervera , juin 26 2010 03:45

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:16

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Chimervera, I once said you should nominated for sainthood for making awesome banners.  Now I reiterate because you made an OP that actually  has working stuff in it!  In short, thanks a mil (and yes, I've been gone for weeks so thread is new to me.)

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Thanks! It's great to be useful ^_^

EDIT: To continue with the theme of Zombie Garrus, here's my top of the page pic :P

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:17

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Jacob: Sleeping with zombie Garrus who's going to eat my face?
Heavy risk...but the priiize

Modifié par Collider, 14 juillet 2010 - 08:19 .

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:18

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Chimervera wrote...

*Gasp!*
I'm home in time for page 100!

Ray Joel Oh wrote...
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Because we can always use more Zombie Garrus [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]


:blink::blink::blink::blink::blink::blink::blink::blink: Brainsoap! BRAINSOAP! QUICK! 

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:21

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The return of Zombie Garrus for page 100! :D The "Zombie Garrus must feed" pics are always hilarious.

Agreed, the new OP is awesome. Now I can find the dancing Garrus/turian vids whenever I want.
Edit: And Zombie Garrus! Just realized that was in the OP too. :)

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:25

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Collider wrote...

Jacob: Sleeping with zombie Garrus who's going to eat my face?
Heavy risk...but the priiize


Why is that SO overused and yet still SO funny?

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:27

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Collider wrote...

Jacob: Sleeping with zombie Garrus who's going to eat my face?
Heavy risk...but the priiize


Why is that SO overused and yet still SO funny?


well the priiize.....? internal bleeding! 

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:30

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Zombie Garrus is realy creepy.

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:33

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Who is creepier...zombie Garrus or the guy who sleeps with zombie Garrus...

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:37

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Who is creepier...zombie Garrus or the guy who sleeps with zombie Garrus...


since the guy there is Jacob, I can only say Jacob! *shudders at the thought of it* 
*dares not to even look at the pictures again* 
*waits for the brainsoap to kick in* 

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:44

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Where is that old soapbox of mine anyway? Oh yes, here it is!

That's also further proof that you can get a turian model to do pretty much whatever, so again why is the Garrus romance scene so skimpy compared to the others exactly? Heck, the first ten seconds of it are femshep taking a shower! Anybody who got as far as that scene is not easy to weird out so why get all hesitant and overly cautious then?

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:48

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Perhaps it can be put this way. The romance scenes in ME2 that do not show significant skin happen to have meaning and emotion. There is no priiize or motorboating.



Though I assume that most of the women who enjoyed the Garrus romance wouldn't mind something steamier, the Garrus romance would be severely disserviced if they focused the final scene on the actual sex instead of the emotions behind the physical and emotional intimacy.

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:52

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Collider wrote...

Perhaps it can be put this way. The romance scenes in ME2 that do not show significant skin happen to have meaning and emotion. There is no priiize or motorboating.

Though I assume that most of the women who enjoyed the Garrus romance wouldn't mind something steamier, the Garrus romance would be severely disserviced if they focused the final scene on the actual sex instead of the emotions behind the physical and emotional intimacy.


I agree with you but I also have a well-established beef about the brevity of Garrus romance compared to others.  What is there is quite rich I concur.  Doesn't mean I don't want more.  I'm a sort of self-appointed gadfly on this issue.  I know I'm not the only one who wants more than a headbump.  The headbump is sweet and I wouldn't trade it for a gold mind.  That doesn't mean I don't want to see a little of what happened after said headbump.

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:53

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Collider wrote...

Perhaps it can be put this way. The romance scenes in ME2 that do not show significant skin happen to have meaning and emotion. There is no priiize or motorboating.

Though I assume that most of the women who enjoyed the Garrus romance wouldn't mind something steamier, the Garrus romance would be severely disserviced if they focused the final scene on the actual sex instead of the emotions behind the physical and emotional intimacy.


I actually like that it leaves SO MUCH room for mind-gutter-ness....i mean, imagination *coughs* :innocent::whistle:

Edit: although I wouldn't have minded AT LEAST a kiss or some more ...errm touching.....

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:55

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To qualify my complaint is not just about a lack of content in the romance culmination scene, but rather, a gross lack of content in general compared to other LIs. I don't say that what's there isn't good because it is very good. It is precisely because it is so good that I want more. Look at the amount of time, resources, and effort wasted on all the extra crap in the Jacob romance...



That's what I mean.

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 08:58

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I agree with you but I also have a well-established beef about the brevity of Garrus romance compared to others.  What is there is quite rich I concur.  Doesn't mean I don't want more.  I'm a sort of self-appointed gadfly on this issue.  I know I'm not the only one who wants more than a headbump.  The headbump is sweet and I wouldn't trade it for a gold mind.  That doesn't mean I don't want to see a little of what happened after said headbump.

That's fine. I just kind of view it in comparison to the Jacob and Miranda romance scenes. Those two scenes give me the impression that for ME2, it was either: you go with meaning and emotion, or you go with sex.

Because the Jacob and Miranda romances did not have good dialog.
Jacob's dialog lines were incredibly horrible and Miranda basically just said "I cleared out the engine room" and that's it.

In that context, I am glad they went with the former (emotion).

I will say though, considering the abject horridness of Jacob's romance, had they committed the resources for "sexy" not for Jacob but for Garrus, that would have better served the general audience (though perhaps we would lose some of the laughter that Jacob's romance has caused).

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:02

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Yet most of Garrus lines are about nothing but discussing awkward sex. He never out and says anything overtly emotional like Tali or Jack or Thane does. Heck, you can even get an "I love you" out of Jacob if you play it right. I know the emotion is there, but you have to dig deep and really interpret some things to get it. A lot of people finished the game and wondered "was Garrus really into that?" or "was he just having awkward sex with Shep to appease her?" What he actually thinks is largely a thing of implication and assumption.

I think that's specifically why Bioware made a point of making Kasumi point out "The word is that Garrus really likes you."  That's the only point where something like that is explicitly stated and a lot of fangirls were really wandering what Garrus thought.  Kasumi voices a lot of fan concerns (like how she asks Shep about having sex in the engine room "right where Tali works.")  I think the devs are totally reacting to fans there.

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:03

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I like the headbump scene. :) I think some of FemShep's dialogue could have been better... but Garrus' lines were adorable. And in my opinion, so was his music choice. (Probably because my FemShep kept trying to dance with him in ME1.)

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:06

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Again, I love the Garrus stuff. I wouldn't give any of it back. I just wish the amount of stuff he had was more comparable to what other LIs had. He felt sort of short-changed like Bioware figured he was just a fetish option that few people would pick. I think it's been proven that that is NOT the case...

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:14

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Again, I love the Garrus stuff. I wouldn't give any of it back. I just wish the amount of stuff he had was more comparable to what other LIs had. He felt sort of short-changed like Bioware figured he was just a fetish option that few people would pick. I think it's been proven that that is NOT the case...


oh well, from a fetish point of view, I have all kinds of fetishes then....humans, drell, turians.... *coughs* 
damn, I really should stop ingesting :pinched:

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:20

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

To qualify my complaint is not just about a lack of content in the romance culmination scene, but rather, a gross lack of content in general compared to other LIs. I don't say that what's there isn't good because it is very good. It is precisely because it is so good that I want more. Look at the amount of time, resources, and effort wasted on all the extra crap in the Jacob romance...

That's what I mean.


You're absolutely right. You have perfectly summed up my thoughts in general on Garrus Romance. I don't think there's something to add. I would certainly more dialogues for Garrus in ME3 and hope that Bioware will listen to our demands. I expect really great things from ME3. Posted Image

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:21

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I think Bioware was kinda weirded out by the level of Garrus love and they figured "these ladies feel short changed because the guys got Liara and they didn't get a hot malien. They are just projecting onto Garrus." So they create Thane, the obligatory hot malien and toss Garrus in as a "why the hell not" but figured most women interested in maliens would go for Thane. Pre ME2, most women DID latch onto Thane. His thread on the old forums was on fire. The reason we did that though is because we never believed they would give us Garrus and so Thane seemed a more viable option. We still actually wanted Garrus. This is evidenced by how so many fangirls switched back to Garrus once he was revealed as an LI. I'm not making this stuff up. I did this very thing myself and have heard lots of other people say the same thing. My point is that we don't just want "obligatory hot malien." LOTS of women actually want Garrus specifically and won't really be satisfied with anything but that. Does that make sense. (BTW, I love Thane and actually wish he didn't have to compete with Garrus. He's a great LI. I almost wish he was in his own game. I feel he has gotten unfairly overshadowed.)

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:28

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Garrus is the vaguest character out of all the characters in the ME universe. From ME1 to ME2, we've found out a lot of the squaddies background (daddy issues, BAat, family, etc.), but Garrus doesn't have anything except for a few references in ME1 of his C-Sec work and a tiny hint of his service in the Turian Military in ME2. Maybe that will be revealed in ME3... but I'm not giving my hopes up high.

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:36

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You're right.

One gets the impression that Garrus is in shadow compared especially to Jacob or Thane. I personally I don't be a big fan of Thane or Jacob, but of course everyone is free to have their preferences. Bioware should keep in mind that Garrus should be treated like all other male characters of the team. The law is equal for all, or not? To see what has happened in ME2 it seems that the law is not the same for everyone....

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:36

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That's precisely my point. There is a TON of information that could be revealed about Garrus and there are a TON of people who want to know that information so why all the vagueness and silence?

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Posté 14 juillet 2010 - 09:39

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The two returning squad mates also have the least amount of Normandy conversations. Literally everyone else has more conversations.
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