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We seriously need videos of the Jacob lines about Garrus. Seriously. I am willing to do it but I have NO idea how to upload Xbox game video footage online. Anyone know of a tutorial or something they can direct me to. I'd be willing to set this up but I don't have a PC game version.

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Not only is Jacob boring, he apparently hates Garrus.


Referring to "cuttlebone" here or something else?

Cuttlebone included, yea. Other things that indicate so:
1. If you try to help Jacob with his problems, Jacob gets angry and says that maybe Shepard should talk to Garrus instead (which came out of nowhere). After which Jacob does not want to talk to you anymore at all.
2. He calls Garrus the "wounded type" - he says something like "I guess you like your men wounded."


Huh, where does he say that?  Dang, I've asked too many Jacob questions.  I need to just suck it up and go back to some of my old strategic plays and experiment for science.  Got nothing better to do.

In Jacob's 2nd/3rd romance (fairly certain he has 4) conversation:

Jacob: I'm just being honest. Big picture, there's way more important things to hold onto.

Shepard (concerned): Lying to yourself won't help. It'll just eat at you. (this is the "That's just naive" option)

Jacob (angry): What I really don't need is someone telling me I don't know myself.
You think about my problems more than I do, and it needs to stop.
Maybe you should go hang on Garrus. He might suit you better. *ends romance*
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Oh Jacob, how true you are :o
After I talk to him again, he's all
Jacob: I'll take your orders on missions, Shepard, but time on ship is mine.





He does that even if you don't romance Garrus?

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Yeah... Jacob really doesn't get along with Garrus too well. Especially if you're remotely flirting with either.



Ah well. That's why Jacob only gets the one romance out of me, "for science."

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He does that even if you don't romance Garrus?

Yep. Hadn't even done Garrus' loyalty mission yet when Jacob said that.

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@ J4N3: Thanks. It's almost 4:30 PM here, I slept for a looong time... but thanks for the tissues. I need them a lot. Sadly, it's not an allergy caused by turian...fluids...lol... but the flu.

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I think I understand the bit with "same team." Dang, way to bust my bubble, Cerryd. I think I'll cry in a corner now...


*hands tissue to Raga*

Yeah, the first time I saw that presentation I was throwing confetti as well. Until I realized the entire presentation is about gameplay and design, not about squaddies.

But I still believe we'll see our squaddies back. B)

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I think there is latent Garrus jealously no matter what you do. And I think Jacob is actually interested in you before you flirt with him. What with his "perfect example of humanity" spill. I think he downplays it because he thinks he has no chance, but I actually think he is interested pretty much from the beginning. I also think that makes him resent your familiarity with Garrus. He doesn't seem to have a beef with aliens at large or even turians. It's like Garrus specifically rubs him the wrong way. Does he go off on Thane like that? What's the deal. Does he not like Garrus personality type or is it actually competition over femshep that he won't admit?

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

We seriously need videos of the Jacob lines about Garrus. Seriously. I am willing to do it but I have NO idea how to upload Xbox game video footage online. Anyone know of a tutorial or something they can direct me to. I'd be willing to set this up but I don't have a PC game version.


I can actually try to snatch some tonight, when I'm home. Fraps is always running in the back. Been frapsing the hell out of the first Garrus-Shep-full-contact-sparring-scene from an earlier save yesterday *rofls* 

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I have enough "strategic" saves for messing with scenarios that I can set these up easy for myself, but people are all the time asking about these lines. It's just that Jacob is so awful no one want to "take one for the team." Serious Jacob vids are rare because of that.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think there is latent Garrus jealously no matter what you do. And I think Jacob is actually interested in you before you flirt with him. What with his "perfect example of humanity" spill. I think he downplays it because he thinks he has no chance, but I actually think he is interested pretty much from the beginning. I also think that makes him resent your familiarity with Garrus. He doesn't seem to have a beef with aliens at large or even turians. It's like Garrus specifically rubs him the wrong way. Does he go off on Thane like that? What's the deal.

He calls Garrus a cuttlebone. I imagine that's a racial slur.
I think he says something about Drell eyes if you dump him for Thane.

Does he not like Garrus personality type or is it actually competition over femshep that he won't admit?

Both. I think he's offended that Garrus has baggage yet is not ruined by it. Jacob wants to think that people with baggage or acknowledge their baggage are weaker.

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Huh, never thought of that but I never lent much thought to Jacob. That makes him stuffy, boring, AND holier-than-thou. Why were we supposed to like this guy again?

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think there is latent Garrus jealously no matter what you do. And I think Jacob is actually interested in you before you flirt with him. What with his "perfect example of humanity" spill. I think he downplays it because he thinks he has no chance, but I actually think he is interested pretty much from the beginning. I also think that makes him resent your familiarity with Garrus. He doesn't seem to have a beef with aliens at large or even turians. It's like Garrus specifically rubs him the wrong way. Does he go off on Thane like that? What's the deal. Does he not like Garrus personality type or is it actually competition over femshep that he won't admit?



I think it's actually jealousy over Garrus' relationship with Shep.  Jacob, after all, got to see your rebuilding, too.  And undoubtly read the same files as Miranda.  And if you pay attention, every dialogue prior to you getting on The Normandy SR-2 is him defending you from Miranda's zealous inquisition.  He's got at least a case of hero worship, if not a Xander-like crush on the female superhero in front of him. 

So yes.   He'd probably resent Kaidan like hell, too.   Thane is his only "equal" competition.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I have enough "strategic" saves for messing with scenarios that I can set these up easy for myself, but people are all the time asking about these lines. It's just that Jacob is so awful no one want to "take one for the team." Serious Jacob vids are rare because of that.


oh yeah I can definitely do that. I have so many saves this time lol, I can actually romance everyone and then dump either Garrus, Thane or Jacob for one or the other and Fraps like crazy....
depending on Jacob wantint to talk to me that is xD
I'll try when I get home tonight...

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I have enough "strategic" saves for messing with scenarios that I can set these up easy for myself, but people are all the time asking about these lines. It's just that Jacob is so awful no one want to "take one for the team." Serious Jacob vids are rare because of that.


I romanced Jacob from start to finish and reported back to both this thread and the Kaidan thread.  I'm sure Stephi's got my report linked somewhere.

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Man, my initial opinion of Jacob was "meh," but I'm really starting to resent this guy.

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Thanks Jane. It'll add to our collection of Garrus related stuff :)

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I would appreciate links. That might be something that should go in the OP or archive somewhere. It gets asked about a lot.

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Some more Garrus related trivia:



1. If Jack is dead, Garrus raises concern about Miranda's ability to lead.

2. If you talk to Bailey about and ask about "abusing subjects," Bailey will say something about there being times where you shouldn't play by the books. If Tali is in the party, she happily says "sounds like a certain Turian we know."

3. There is an advertisement on the Citadel that may reference that you have Garrus in your party.

4. Kasumi says that everyone including her wanted to see F!Shepard and Garrus get together.

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Collider wrote...

Some more Garrus related trivia:

1. If Jack is dead, Garrus raises concern about Miranda's ability to lead.
2. If you talk to Bailey about and ask about "abusing subjects," Bailey will say something about there being times where you shouldn't play by the books. If Tali is in the party, she happily says "sounds like a certain Turian we know."
3. There is an advertisement on the Citadel that may reference that you have Garrus in your party.
4. Kasumi says that everyone including her wanted to see F!Shepard and Garrus get together.



Except Jacob and Thane. ;)

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Those I knew. I know 98% of Garrus trivia just not he stuff that requires Jacob romance...I'm not feeling up for self-flagellation most of the time.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Those I knew. I know 98% of Garrus trivia just not he stuff that requires Jacob romance...I'm not feeling up for self-flagellation most of the time.


rofl!

What I never got though was the Tali-Garrus-elevator discussion on the Citadel in ME2....NEVER! I have no idea what I have to do to trigger it. I know I AM at the right spot, I have both of them with me, yet the convo NEVER gets started! :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

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Shep and Garrus really are an awesome couple. It does seem like a lot of folks would have been nudging each other in the ribs behind their backs long before Garrus and Shep ever even considered a romance. That's how I picture it anyway. I also think Kasumi's lines are fanservice so in that sense " a lot of people" may actually mean us fangirls. (and guys.)

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Huh, that conversation has always popped up very naturally for me. Are you quite sure you are on the right staircase? There are two staircases I think.

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I went through Jacob's romance. It's bad. F!Shepard sounds horrible, and her lines are horrible. Jacob has a few comments that are basically about how much he wants to bed her. If you try to help Jacob with his problems, he gets super pissed. Bioware...having party members who get pissed off if you ask about them is probably not the best way to go.

Jacob insists on keeping things casual (nothing attached, serious, or involved), but he will get PISSED OFF if you break up with him. It's not so much that he get pissed off itself, it's that he gets so pissed off when he was the one who didn't want anything to be serious...jeez.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Huh, that conversation has always popped up very naturally for me. Are you quite sure you are on the right staircase? There are two staircases I think.


yes! In the end, I actually walked up and down all staircases I could find, checked all youtube videos I could find and then gave up.....I never got that convo! NEVER! *goes to corner and cwies*

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I think Bioware over-corrected from Kaidan. A lot of people complained Kaidan was too clingy. Something in between Kaidan and Jacob please. Mainly meanly Garrus of course.