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Obsydian

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 OMG Ivan. YES PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Of course, Nihlus isn't dead, so he could be a squadmate. :D

and Arc. Oh gods. thats one hell of a question. I would let him leave. If its one thing that I have learned from having a military boy, you have to let them go sometimes. It doesn't mean that they don't love you or want to stay with you.... but. Specially if it was a good opportunity for him to grow.
I think that Garrus deserves his own team.
And honestly? he's harboring SO much guilt after Sidnois, that he probaby NEEDS to lead a team again. if only to prove to himself that he can do it. I think it would make him confident again. Cause, while we all know that he does things stylishly... I think he lacks the confidence that he could have had. I think that he's a bit shadowed by Shepard at this point.

I think someone pointed it out on here before... I would love to see him become a Spectre beside Shepard (if you're into that sort of thing and are all Paragon/-gade) and together (and apart) the help the galaxy. They could lead different platoons/squads/armies whathaveyou against the Reapers.
I mean really. If the VS gets to be a Spectre.... then shouldn't Garrus?


ooooh. ToTP


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That would be so sick.... Nihlus' sister and Garrus on one team!!!!!! Turian team! w000t!

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

So, I know there are going to be Garrus hugs in ME3, but what I really want is Male Shep Garrus SNUGGLES. If Bioware pulls that off, I'll give them all my money, and perhaps even my soul.


I'm not sure how I feel about garrus being bisexual, however, if bioware wants to make another gay turian, then I'm down with that, ooh, and a female turian, actually you know what, screw it, an entire squad of turians!

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see, i'm still ok with Garrus being bi. i can totally see it fitting his character. *shrug* but thats just me. honestly? give me a bisexual Kaidan and i'll be terribly happy.

or a gay turian. OMG TECHNO TURIAN CAN BE A GAY/BI TURIAN. PLEASE BIOWARE GIVE ME THIS.
OMG.
OMG

*hyperventilates*



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BubbleSauce wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

So, I know there are going to be Garrus hugs in ME3, but what I really want is Male Shep Garrus SNUGGLES. If Bioware pulls that off, I'll give them all my money, and perhaps even my soul.


I'm not sure how I feel about garrus being bisexual, however, if bioware wants to make another gay turian, then I'm down with that, ooh, and a female turian, actually you know what, screw it, an entire squad of turians!





I'm on the "ship has kinda sailed on that" side for previous Lis but I totally agree that any new li's should be strictly gay and Bi to make up for 2 games without any man love for maleshep.  My problems with garrus being Bi has nothing to do with not wanting s/s romance but rather that story wise and character wise, it wouldn’t work at this point in the series.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

BubbleSauce wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

So, I know there are going to be Garrus hugs in ME3, but what I really want is Male Shep Garrus SNUGGLES. If Bioware pulls that off, I'll give them all my money, and perhaps even my soul.


I'm not sure how I feel about garrus being bisexual, however, if bioware wants to make another gay turian, then I'm down with that, ooh, and a female turian, actually you know what, screw it, an entire squad of turians!



I'm on the "ship has kinda sailed on that" side for previous Lis but I totally agree that any new li's should be strictly gay and Bi to make up for 2 games without any man love for maleshep.  My problems with garrus being Bi has nothing to do with not wanting s/s romance but rather that story wise and character wise, it wouldn’t work at this point in the series.


I think it was stupid he wasn't made bi for Shepard in the first place.... once you're crossing species lines... what difference does gender make?

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Sialater wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

BubbleSauce wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

So, I know there are going to be Garrus hugs in ME3, but what I really want is Male Shep Garrus SNUGGLES. If Bioware pulls that off, I'll give them all my money, and perhaps even my soul.


I'm not sure how I feel about garrus being bisexual, however, if bioware wants to make another gay turian, then I'm down with that, ooh, and a female turian, actually you know what, screw it, an entire squad of turians!



I'm on the "ship has kinda sailed on that" side for previous Lis but I totally agree that any new li's should be strictly gay and Bi to make up for 2 games without any man love for maleshep.  My problems with garrus being Bi has nothing to do with not wanting s/s romance but rather that story wise and character wise, it wouldn’t work at this point in the series.


I think it was stupid he wasn't made bi for Shepard in the first place.... once you're crossing species lines... what difference does gender make?



I agree that if garrus were to be made bi it should have happened before but since it didn't I just want to plot to move along now, develop what has been done . Also If human and turians are compatible then we can also argue that human women would be closer to female turians than human men would be , so garrus could still recognise shep as female. I don’t think being with another huminoid species means that character suddenly ignores sex , it could just mean they are willing to sleep with a female of another species.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 23 juin 2011 - 08:52 .


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Obsydian

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i guess i can see the only problem with Garrus being made bi at this stage of the game is that he never was allowed to be in game before, so it would be a bit sad to go through 2 whole games with M!Shep and then all of a sudden in ME3, have Garrus be all Oh, well, while you were gone i decided that i love you.
that would definitly be odd. but i think that will be a bit strange with ANY of the old LIs. thats the only problem i have with them introducing new LIs at all. the only one that makes any sort of sense is Joker. cause he's been there the whole time.


i do, however, want some boy on boy. i want this like burning.

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If Garrus couldn't be a LI in ME, and then could be in ME2, why couldn't he be a bi LI in ME3? We can rationalize it like this: took him one game to fall for a human, and two to fall for a male human. I could so live with it. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd play ManShep for it. Even though I like Hale's voice so much better.

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Obsydian wrote...

i guess i can see the only problem with Garrus being made bi at this stage of the game is that he never was allowed to be in game before, so it would be a bit sad to go through 2 whole games with M!Shep and then all of a sudden in ME3, have Garrus be all Oh, well, while you were gone i decided that i love you.
that would definitly be odd. but i think that will be a bit strange with ANY of the old LIs. thats the only problem i have with them introducing new LIs at all. the only one that makes any sort of sense is Joker. cause he's been there the whole time.


i do, however, want some boy on boy. i want this like burning.


Again totally support joker being bi , because he hasn't been romanced and he's been with you over 3 games so its perfect for people wanting someone who shep has bonded with already. Regarding Garrus, I guess the whole "he slept with a human so make him bi because what's the difference" is not a good argument for me because sexual preference and what you like in appearence /can tolerate aethestically aren't the same thing.

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...

That would be so sick.... Nihlus' sister and Garrus on one team!!!!!! Turian team! w000t!

BioWare, if this can come true I guarantee you that my money are yours.

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NIHLUS HAS A SISTER? I expended every dialogue option with him throughout multiple playthroughs, how did u people find this out?

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Lady Olivia wrote...

If Garrus couldn't be a LI in ME, and then could be in ME2, why couldn't he be a bi LI in ME3? We can rationalize it like this: took him one game to fall for a human, and two to fall for a male human. I could so live with it. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd play ManShep for it. Even though I like Hale's voice so much better.



I guess I don't look at it as a singular issue, is it just garrus becoming bi in me3 out of the old LIs? If so why Garrus and not kaidan? Or Thane or Jacob?  Will singling out one or two old LIs cause problems with the fan bases? And if it's all of them is it realistic for 9+ people to suddenly reveal they actually like both sexes in the third act? Will it just look tacked on for that vast amount of characters? How much resources will it take? Does making everyone available to shepard take away the variety of sexualities that exist in real life and isn't some character limitation good if it encourages you to play the other sex for a different experience? I just think there’s more things to consider.

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I can understand if people are against bi Garrus for continuity reasons but look at it this way, his bi-ness wouldn't affect you unless you romance him as a man, and if you're not down with bi Garrus then you simply wouldn't romance him as a man, and in your game he would remain hetero. It's not a big deal at all.

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Here's a question.If Palaven was being attacked by the Reapers do you reckon would fight on the front lines amongst the main planetary defense force, or would he rather stay with and protect his family?

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Hellbound555 wrote...

NIHLUS HAS A SISTER? I expended every dialogue option with him throughout multiple playthroughs, how did u people find this out?



we're hoping and assuming.. not saying that he defimitly does. 

though it would be HOT. :D

and as to Garrus being bi or not?   I would love it if he was. I would. honestly. I ADORE the idea that my (as of yet nonexistant) m!Shep would be able to have boy on boy action with him. i'm only saying that it ....  would feel too forced unless they did it right. and i'm not terribly trusting of BioWare to do it right. *shrugs* thats all i'm saying. 

for me?  a Bi-Garrus would be a nearly dream come true. 

a Bi-Nihlus .... I might just die.   of happiness and shock and sexiness and hotness and everything else. 

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AnimaTempli101 wrote...

Here's a question.If Palaven was being attacked by the Reapers do you reckon would fight on the front lines amongst the main planetary defense force, or would he rather stay with and protect his family?


I think he'll be where ever my Shepard needs him. 

They can't even be separated long enough so she can get a solo pic.
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AnimaTempli101 wrote...

Here's a question.If Palaven was being attacked by the Reapers do you reckon would fight on the front lines amongst the main planetary defense force, or would he rather stay with and protect his family?



He'd try to get them off world first but won't go with them when they do, he'd stay and fight because even though he says he isn't a "good turian" I think honour would compel him to protect his turian homeworld

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Waiting for the next chapter of ' The Spirit of Redemption ' to be released is the most thing i'm looking forward in my life at the moment ^_^

I'm feeling really giddy for no reason :S

*goes to read the new chapter 5 times over*

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Im with Hyrule on the whole Garrus being bi concept. I completely support same sex relations. Actually, i was hoping BW would make this possible in me3, seeing as FemShep can be with Liara since me1. So why cant MaleShep be with a guy if femshep could be with her sex? 
BUT again, thats been since the beginning. I dont know why - i cant see it. Even though Id really like too. Im just hoping they don't slap on a "Guess what - Garrus is bi now" just to please fans. Make it so thats its meaningful. It was not implied throughout the series - and although i support it, it would seem OC? At least to me it would :/ Then again - I'll just probably stay with femshep file since thats the one that has a loyal garrus LI XP My maleshep is taken. heh

Lady Olivia wrote...

If Garrus couldn't be a LI in ME, and then could be in ME2, why couldn't he be a bi LI in ME3?


Its also not that he couldnt be one in me1, logically he very well could have - but BW was just afraid females wouldnt like him. So it wasnt an option. Shame BW, shame on you :P If only they knew. heh.
Which leaves me baffled. They put Liara as an LI but not Garrus. Males had the option to romance 2 girls. Females only had the alternative - one guy, one girl Image IPB As if trying to force us on Kaiden in a way. I like Liara - just as a sister so to speak. I wanted more dude options! XD They possibly put Liara as an option because she looked remotely human.
Anyways, he wouldnt technically be a "new" LI for people who are starting with me3. In fact, for those who havent played me1 or 2, theyre getting another one of those comics. In those comics - the player was able to decide if they wanted an LI. For some odd reason - i see it hard to try and imply Garrus could be possibly bi in a comic. Then again - BW could work a miracle. Who knows.
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Obsydian wrote...

i do, however, want some boy on boy. i want this like burning.


I knew  I liked you. :P

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Gah! Bioware is calling out Fan Art submissions for Comic Con on their facebook.
Well isnt that sweet of them ^_____^

As long as Patryk is in there, I'll be happy. Then again - All ME artwork makes me happy XD

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Sialater wrote...

I think it was stupid he wasn't made bi for Shepard in the first place.... once you're crossing species lines... what difference does gender make?


My thoughts EXACTLY.

Also.. wow, ok I have a few Arcana posts to catch up on. That TotP is lovely btw.

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Yeah, that picture is gorgeous...my eyes keep getting drawn to his waist <3

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kglaser wrote...

Yeah, that picture is gorgeous...my eyes keep getting drawn to his waist <3


Kg, Ur own quote will justify what I want to say.

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