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[k8ee]

WHOA ToTP



Here is my post from the other thread....

Here is a question... is there anyone you would save over Garrus?

You can't save both (Virmire flash back) Which do you choose?

Garrus or.....

Legion?
Mordin?
Joker?
Dr Chakwas?
Anderson?
Tali?
Two squadmates?
Three squadmates?
Four squadmates?
Ten civilians?
Fifty civilians?
A hundred civilians?
Yourself?

A whole planet?
lol

EDIT: It makes way more sense for me to stick the link to the poll HERE.

Modifié par k8ee, 29 juillet 2011 - 05:30 .

[Lady Olivia]

Why don't you make a poll?

[k8ee]

I think there would be multiple answers... so I don't think I can make the poll on here, maybe I can make it somewhere else and link it...

[BubbleSauce]

Depends on the circumstances, for instance, If I had the choice to save Garrus or 100 orphan babies, I'd pick the babies, however, if it was a choice between Garrus and 100 indoctrinated orphan babies, well now that's a different story altogether...

I'd save Garrus over any of the other squad mates, a whole planet, I couldn't sacrifice, unless of course they were indoctrinated, in which case I say, **** em'

I'd sacrifice myself for garrus, but only cause all of my shepards are too selfish to stand losing him again. There's a startling piece quasi-profound of pseudo-morality for you!     

Modifié par BubbleSauce, 29 juillet 2011 - 03:25 .

[Skits]

I'll just copy/paste my reply from the other thread, doot dee doo... XD

Haha, oh man. If it's a one-for-one Virmire-type situation, then most of the time I'd say I'd have to go for Garrus, at least with my Sheps that are romancing him.

Two-four squadmates depends on the situation, I think. Also depends on which squadmates they are. Though I don't think Garrus would be too happy with me sacrificing several other people just for him.

Ten civilians to a planet full of civilians, I'd most likely have to go for the civilians. Garrus would never forgive me for doing otherwise, I think. Again though, it also depends on the exact situation and circumstances. Except for the planet thing, there's almost no way I can ever justify saving one person at the expense of an entire planet.

As for choosing between my Shep and Garrus... well, that depends on if Garrus LETS me save him. Again, situation and circumstance. I'd be heartbroken if he pulled an Alistair ala Dragon Age, but I'd understand him doing it.

And then I'd reload and make sure to do whatever I had to to keep Garrus alive.

[k8ee]

Ohhhhkay, seeing as this has been such a productive day at work, here is the poll:

VOTE HERE

EDIT: This is the poll for "how much blood are you willing to spill to save Garrus's life?"

Modifié par k8ee, 29 juillet 2011 - 04:36 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

k8ee wrote...

Ohhhhkay, seeing as this has been such a productive day at work, here is the poll:

VOTE HERE

EDIT: This is the poll for "how much blood are you willing to spill to save Garrus's life?"

Where's the 'no one' option? 

The only one on there that would give me pause is the entire planet, but.. There are a lot of planets. And I kind of need my wing man to save the rest of them. I'm just sayin'.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:36 .

[Leonia]

So..I think I did the poll wrong, was half-awake at the time but basically I'd sacrifice anything (even Shepard) for Garrus.

[ArcanaLegacy]

Wow i leave a comment about hand-to-hand combat, leave for a few days and BAM. XD Especially Chewin's comment on the whole Leng vs Garrus scenario helping to trigger all this. Hilarious. Love you guys. 

I WAS going to post another one of my long posts about this BUT a certain someone did a good job doing that in my absense.

Skits wrote...
Garrus is good enough at what he does that he drew Cerberus' attention even though they didn't know who he actually was. He went toe to toe with a krogan battlemaster, and if Garm's reinforcements hadn't arrived, I'm pretty sure Garrus would've come out on top on that one. And then of course there's his marksmanship skills. XD He pissed off three entire merc groups so much that they banded together to take him out, and they STILL couldn't do it easily. He took a gunship rocket to the face and was up and back in business again with very little recovery time.

Another fact showing just how smart he is is his technical expertise on top of all his other skills. He maintained the Mako through all the hells that Shepard put it through in ME1, and he maintained, upgraded and calibrated the Normandy SR2's weapons, both the Javelins and the Thanix. He's not just some army grunt, he's bloody brilliant. But he's so modest about it and it's so understated in the game that it's easy to overlook. It's not jammed down your throat, and therefore doesn't drive me into a frothing fit of rage like Kai does. XD

Amen to ALL that!!!  *hugs skits*
I think that whole fight would be tough to detemine a winner. But are quite capable fighters. Element of surprise could be a huge factor in the fight, as well as setting. Cutting corners and such, using the place to their advantage. Etc. So many factors. Can we just say its a tie? Though I dont know much about Leng so Im somewhat biased on who I'd vote for XD Still agree that Thane is more a capable candiate for best melee competitor. Garrus falls VERY close behind him.
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And oh knows.....*face palm* this conversation about sacrificing Garrus again  boo.

Ah yes, "Sacrificial Characters". Individuals willing to give up their lives to protect others without fear or selfishness. At times, not thinking of the effect of the aftermath of such sacrifices. We have dimissed that claim.

Though true enough, we didnt discuss if Shep was on a receiving end. Interesting. Shep [in general] would sacrifice him/herself for someone else. Take saving Joker for example. I wouldve done the same thing in her shoes and made sure he escaped the normandy without me.
 
Shep sacrificed herself to save someone once, she'd do it again.

[ThatDancingTurian]

ArcanaLegacy wrote...

And oh knows.....*face palm* this conversation about sacrificing Garrus again  boo.

Ah yes, "Sacrificial Characters". Individuals willing to give up their lives to protect others without fear or selfishness. At times, not thinking of the effect of the aftermath of such sacrifices. We have dimissed that claim.

Though true enough, we didnt discuss if Shep was on a receiving end. Interesting. Shep [in general] would sacrifice him/herself for someone else. Take saving Joker for example. I wouldve done the same thing in her shoes and made sure he escaped the normandy without me.
 
Shep sacrificed herself to save someone once, she'd do it again.

MTE. I think if there's a choice I'm always going to have to go with the self sacrifice, but especially if it's Garrus. I hope there's an opportunity to tell him not to do anything stupid before you take the bullet. We know where he ended up the last time Shepard died.

[k8ee]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Ohhhhkay, seeing as this has been such a productive day at work, here is the poll:

VOTE HERE

EDIT: This is the poll for "how much blood are you willing to spill to save Garrus's life?"

Where's the 'no one' option? 

The only one on there that would give me pause is the entire planet, but.. There are a lot of planets. And I kind of need my wing man to save the rest of them. I'm just sayin'.

Ah yeah I know, I forgot that option... I also meant to add The normandy and all its crew, but I was having some errr... technical difficulties. But I think you can actually choose to cast your vote and not choose anything, because strangely enough only 67% of people said they would sacrifice a whole planet worth of people for Garrus. I demand the 33% of voters explain themselves, lol.

And two people voted for Dr Chakwas and Anderson... wtf

[Skits]

Yay hugs! *hugs Arcana*

Yeah, I definitely agree the element of surprise would play a huge factor, as would the location and circumstances. I'm happy to call it a hypothetical draw generally. XD

Here's a twist on the sacrificing Garrus question for you all! What do you think Garrus would sacrifice to save Shepard?

[ThatDancingTurian]

k8ee wrote...

Ah yeah I know, I forgot that option... I also meant to add The normandy and all its crew, but I was having some errr... technical difficulties. But I think you can actually choose to cast your vote and not choose anything, because strangely enough only 67% of people said they would sacrifice a whole planet worth of people for Garrus. I demand the 33% of voters explain themselves, lol.

And two people voted for Dr Chakwas and Anderson... wtf

I think there's some confusion here because when you posted the poll you said "how much blood are you willing to spill to save Garrus's life?" (implying the options are ones you would sacrifice for Garrus), while the poll title reads "Choose all the options below that you would save over Garrus" (implying the options are the ones you would sacrifice Garrus for). So it's kind of hard to tell whether the poll is asking, 'which of these would you save' or 'which of these would you sacrifice'.

@Skits: Wow, I can't even form an answer to that question. Which makes me really want to see it in-game. Could you imagine? That would be awesome and dramatic.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 30 juillet 2011 - 05:08 .

[ArcanaLegacy]

hugs for all.

Skits wrote...
*snip*
Here's a twist on the sacrificing Garrus question for you all! What do you think Garrus would sacrifice to save Shepard?

Anything and everything.
Worst case scenario: His life.
 
Simple as that. Its sad and we dont want to see it happen [obviously] but its totally something he would do. Shepard pretty much gives him purpose in a way. Or more of a sense of stability. Similar to how Chakwas finds stability by treating and staying near Joker. Same applies here with Shep and Garrus. With the impact Shepard has had on his life - he'd protect her to the bitter end.

Lets look through Garrus' POV shall we?
He worked in CSec, trying to make a difference but at just about every turn he would get stopped by rules and regulations, getting no where and feeling like he can't really take a stand or whatever he did just seemed pointless. Stopped in his tracks, seeing the "bad guy" get away. He was "stranded". Seemed like no one really believed in him or wanted to take a chance on him. Out of no where comes this commander, they have a common goal and takes him on her team because she sees that determination and resolve he has. Taking that chance on him. Garrus mustve have felt somehow honored and happy to have a commander see him as anything valuable. Together they got things done and he learned so much outside of the world beyond rules and regulations. She helped to change and encourage him like no one else. He took that and went to Spectre Training [with or w/o rejoining CSec depends on you] with the time he spent with her in mind.

Guess what she dies. He was devastated. Like something snapped inside him. Her teachings couldve vanished as well thanks to the fact she was no longer around. Leaving to Omega to attempt to make a difference....again. Guess what - it hardly made a dent. Even he says it afterwards. He was rotting in that place, and it was a matter of time til he was going to die. He was stranded yet again, feeling like he failed - making no difference in this world. That it was his fault his team died. People that counted on him and by his presence gave them hope. Out of nowhere AGAIN comes Shepard to take him onto her team because of his value. She sees the value in Garrus that he himself probably doesnt. Taking another chance on him yet again. That belief alone makes him feel somehow whole. His "only friend left in this screwed up galaxy". The one person who saved him from himself at times, and gives him purpose. Her fight is his fight. She understands him; sometimes even better than he knows himself. And later on, having such an impact on him - he thinks she deserves something "closer to home". In reality - he meant that she deserves something better than a "bad turian". A scarred one at that. [His scars mustve hit his self-esteem too possibly]. But look - in his own shock, she still chose him. Of ALL people - him. So again - she took yet ANOTHER chance on him, but this time, a way he probably never imagined she'd take. On a more personal/romantic level. And according to Kasumi's brilliant observation skills of the crew - Garrus couldve been any happier ;3 He tries to make it all perfect, in a sense - as a thank you for everything she's done for him and wanting to be the man she deserves. I doubt he's never even had a real girlfriend? Probably ALOT of one-night stands, so this is new territory for him that he wants to see work. Especially with someone he's come to know and respect for so long. FACT: He loves her. 

Oh guess what!? They defeated the collectors!! Shep chose him to lead the fireteams into hell and succeeded.

So for someone to impact the galaxy, and his life in such a way - he would gratefully give his life for her. He already pretty much protects her with his life as is, in a way hoping she doesnt end up like his team. They believed in him, and they died. He might be hoping heck praying that she stays this time around. And he's going to do everything he can to make sure of it. He lost her once, look how he ended up. He's learned from mistakes, and he wont be making that mistake again of losing her....even if he's not around.
 So yea.


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@_@ ok, I'll shut up now XD Gosh darn it, long post alert delay

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 30 juillet 2011 - 05:46 .

[ArcanaLegacy]

This page is lacking pics!
REMEDY!
New art appeared onto DA

Gotta love a man who knows his calibrations......
Look at that smirk. Im here thinking Old Spice "Hello Ladies...." XD

ps: The artist doesnt understand the attraction female fans have towards Garrus. I say we enlighten him  
i would now, except i need to log off to sleep for a doc appointment X/ I will tackle him in the comments later in the day!

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 30 juillet 2011 - 06:03 .

[dannybates]

@Arc They should make a trailer for garrus where he would be doing his version of the old spice video

Modifié par dannybates, 30 juillet 2011 - 01:48 .

[BubbleSauce]

Is it me or does Garrus look like he's having a stroke in that picture?

[Lady Olivia]

Lol, Bubble. Just... lol.

Modifié par Lady Olivia, 30 juillet 2011 - 02:16 .

[Skits]

Omnomnom wall'o'text.

I totally agree that Garrus wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice his own life to save Shepard's, and I agree with pretty much everything you've said there, Arcana. But what about Garrus having to choose between Shep and, say, a planet? Of course, so much depends on the circumstances.

One thing we need to remember about Garrus is that he's a turian, and turians are brought up to be rather self-sacrificing and serve the greater good over all. Despite Garrus claiming he's not a very good turian, I think he follows this very closely. Just look at his time at C-Sec, and his frustration at not being able to do as much good as he would have liked. Or the whole Saren chase - he dumped his job and life and family to help Shep take Saren down. His work on Omega was, again, in the service of the greater good - taking down mercs so that they'd stop murdering people in the streets, as he says. Then when Shep shows up again, he doesn't hesitate to follow her into hell a second time, again for the greater good.

If the greater good can be served by saving Shep, then yeah, Garrus would most likely do that. However, if the greater good can be served by letting Shep die to save... whatever else, then I can see Garrus being very, very torn. Not to mention how pissed Shep would be at him if he saved her at the cost of the greater good. XD

So I find it hard to believe that Garrus would ever put what he wants in front of what's best for everyone else. Even if it'd pretty much destroy him to lose Shep, if the situation called for it I think he'd take the hit to get the best overall outcome possible.

[ArcanaLegacy]

BubbleSauce wrote...

Is it me or does Garrus look like he's having a stroke in that picture?

Its all them calibrations. They're finally taking effect.

Shepard: Got a minute?
Garrus: Can it wait for abit? Im in the middle of some calibrations.
Shepard: You can take a break, cant you?
Garrus: No. Must keep up with my work.
Shepard: Garrus, are you ok?
Garrus: Im fine. Gotta finish my calibrations. *twitch*
lol
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@Skits:
Technically Garrus was the one to get "dumped" first by CSec, or really by Pallin  & not the other way around  But i get what you mean.  

Skits wrote...
if the situation called for it I think he'd take the hit to get the best overall outcome possible.

Thats a double edged sword if you really think about it. Yes - Garrus would do what he thinks is better for the "greater good/best overall outcome" but you gotta realize that he himself most likely thinks Shepard is part of that greater good. What I mean by that is that he truly believes that Shepard is the one to save everyone. To one to put an end to all this Reaper business. He wouldnt kill her or let her die because of this thought process. Evidence shows that he would sacrifice others for the greater good, and he did have a chance to shoot Shepard and didnt take it. The whole thing with Sidonis for example. If Garrus REALLY wanted him dead.....and i mean REALLY wanted the revenge, he wouldve shot Shepard to get her out the way and be done with it all. BUT he didnt. He refused to shoot as long as Shepard was blocking his shot. He knew full well that Shepard is the one who's to lead them through the omega 4 relay and defeat the collectors. And no one else. Same thing can be said about the impending fight against the reapers.

And look at arrival. Tens of thousands of batarians are dead for the "greater good". In ME3, its clear that Garrus still supports her fully. I wish we couldve heard what the team wouldve said about that decision but if Admiral Hackett was stern at first but came to support it, Im sure the rest wouldve had similar viewpoints. In other words [before i start rambling again] I think Garrus is somehow willing to give up some civilians for Shepard, regardless of her objections. If its takes a sacrifice to save the person who can save millions more in the long run, so be it. At least thats what i think Garrus' POV would be. Its tough to have that thought compute in my brain too [& anyone else for that matter]- thats just more blood on Shepards hands if more people are dead because of her. 

I dont mean to make Shepard sound like some incredible godlike leader, but considering the circumstances - Shepard is the galaxy's best hope. She's witnessed everything 1st hand, spoken to harbinger in his repaer form [ala post SM Arrival playthrough], knows about the protheans and 1st hand knowledge about them [including the vision], has gone on collector ships, etc etc - the list goes on. Point is Shepard knows things no one else does. She's needed to end this. And Garrus knows it.

Garrus: "Whatever happens with the Collectors or the reapers or whoever else comes after us, I know you'll get the job done."
Shepard: "I couldn't do this without you, Garrus."
Garrus: "Sure you could. Not as stylishly, of course."

Sadly, I think he MIGHT do something for Shepard that might cause an uproar.....either b/w him and others, or just b/w him & Shepard. Though if that did happen, as Garrus in trouble with other people, Shepard would step up and take the blame since its her responsibility as Commander.

blah - that hurt my arm. Cant type so much today. Blood taken out of me today x.x; 
But yay for discussions and mountains of text. heh  

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 31 juillet 2011 - 02:01 .

[ArcanaLegacy]

BTW MoonEcho posted this over at the ME3 thread and oh my gosh DEATH by cuteness overload! I LOVE little turian hands! especially when they're trying to grip something.....like a mandible!
[imma just migrate her quote over here;3]

MoonEcho wrote...

Moar baby turians! Baby turian I just found:



Got your mandible!
(Also, it's somebody's OC. Totally thought it was someone else at first... )

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 31 juillet 2011 - 02:07 .

[Skits]

Normally I'm not into baby pics really but omg that pic, so cute nghagh. XD

Anyway!

Yeah, Pallin shut down Garrus' investigation, but he didn't FIRE Garrus over it. It was Garrus' choice to quit C-Sec and continue pursuing Saren. *pedantic* XD

Thats a double edged sword if you really think about it. Yes - Garrus would do what he thinks is better for the "greater good/best overall outcome" but you gotta realize that he himself most likely thinks Shepard is part of that greater good.

Yeah, I'm not arguing he'd save Shepard with little hesitation if it were for the best overall, but what I'm asking about is if it obviously wasn't the best outcome to save Shepard. Like I said, I think he'd be very, very torn, and I'm not sure which way he'd go. It'd most likely depend on the situation and what exactly is going on.

Like, can you imagine how horribly torn he'd be if it were between Shepard and, say, Palaven? Where his FAMILY lives? XD (Again, this is if it's NOT for the greater good to save Shep.) He may not get along with his dad much, but he still cares about his mother and sister, and who knows what other friends and family he has back at home.

I think the thing with Sidonis is pretty much the one time he wasn't taking the greater good into account - he wanted revenge as a personal thing, even though he -thought- he wanted to kill Sidonis to get justice for his men. Shepard getting in the way forced him to think about what he was doing, and I believe it was that combined with seeing how much Sidonis was already suffering that made him back down in the end. It's kind of like the Saelon thing all over again - when made to think about it, Garrus realised that he wasn't pursuing Saelon purely for justice, but mostly for his bruised ego because Saelon got away from him. Same thing with Sidonis, although a lot more personal.

Man, Arrival. XD I love it. So much angst! BUT the thing with Arrival, Shepard wasn't sacrificing those three hundred thousand batarians for ONE PERSON. Shep did it to help save the entire galaxy. There's a big difference there, I think. And yes, all those who've been with Shep for the Saren and/or the Collector fights would most likely agree that it had to be done.

I guess basically what I'm trying to say is that, yes, Garrus would sacrifice a lot to save Shep, including his own life and potentially the lives of the rest of the crew and/or the lives of a lot of civilians if it were for the greater good of keeping Shep around to continue the fight against the Reapers, but I don't think he would sacrifice anything and everything.

Say, the final battle with the Reapers. Whatever Shep is about to do will defeat the Reapers for good, but cost her own life as well. Would Garrus let her do that, or save her at the cost of everything else? I honestly don't think he'd be that selfish. XD

Type with one hand! If Garrus can calibrate with only six fingers, I'm sure you can manage. Hope your arm feels better though! I donate blood (well, plasma) every two weeks, so I can totally understand the feeling, hehe.

[ArcanaLegacy]

I got the part where you were saying if it "obviously wasnt the best outcome to save Shepard." Many factors can go off it that. We can say one thing and then it ending up in a total differ situation. A bad decision at the time could end up saving many more in the long run, which is a factor that not only takes place in this discussion but in the whole series in itself.

Though you know whats funny about this discussion? It probably wont even happen XD The game is based off Shepards decisions and the effect it has on everyone. She wouldnt just die midgame at random. Though would be awesome to have a moment in the game where we can play as other players given the circumstance if Shepard isnt around at the moment like ME2 Joker part. Sniping baddies as Garrus? SIGN ME UP! I see it happening! ME3 is on a galactic scale. Shepard isnt going to be able to be everywhere at once. Shepard isnt god. She has allies scattered though ;P What with there was a blockade when the normandy is trying to land on a planet or large civilization. There could be someone already on the planet [someone on the inside] that could help? So many possibilities! It could give players a great sense of closure if they got a chance to play as their fav characters for a brief moment. This is the end of the trilogy. They should pull out ALL the stops! muah hahahaha!

Skits wrote...
Like, can you imagine how horribly torn he'd be if it were between Shepard and, say, Palaven? Where his FAMILY lives? XD (Again, this is if it's NOT for the greater good to save Shep.) He may not get along with his dad much, but he still cares about his mother and sister, and who knows what other friends and family he has back at home.

OMG PFFFFT Id turn off the game right there because I dont want to know what happens. I always got the impression his father was on the citadel, BUT he couldve gone back to Palaven to help the turians with the reaper invasion and all. And wait - didnt the turians already evact from Palaven onto the nearest moon? Meh, i guess it doesnt matter because its still the turian homeworld even if they arent on it. Like with the Quarians.  They still have a homeworld even if they arent anywhere near it. Anything that happens to it would affect them exponentially.  I dont think I can even answer that XD Of course save Palaven but jeez. Ouch. And yea, he's got to have other people he knows. Some old friends and such. His clan in general for the most part. I doubt he wants to be labeled as a traitor by his own people. Garrus does have turian pride - we can say thats a certainty. When he went after Saren, he took it quite personal because he said that he was a disgrace to the turians.  

Skits wrote...
Man, Arrival. XD I love it. So much angst! BUT the thing with Arrival, Shepard wasn't sacrificing those three hundred thousand batarians for ONE PERSON. Shep did it to help save the entire galaxy. There's a big difference there, I think. And yes, all those who've been with Shep for the Saren and/or the Collector fights would most likely agree that it had to be done.

Hell yea! So much angst like no tomorrow! That DLC was great! My only complain was the ending of it. I felt it got cut off way to soon. I wanted MOAR!!!!!
And i was kinda referring to arrival, not in the sense that shep was sacrificing millions for one person - i realize that, but in the sense how a very bad decision could potentially save many more in the long run. I hated the decision, so many innocents that really had nothing to do with the dilemma at hand just died....just like that. But I do agree it having to be done. Its just hard ya know. Heck if it were a whole mess of turians that died.....BW would be getting a VERY expressive email from me XD Gosh can you imagine!? oh dear, can you imagine Garrus' reaction!? Talk about more angst! AND the humans and turians didnt get along entirely as is due to the 1st contact war. Eek. TENSION!

Hey role reversal! What if it were a cluster of turians that had died in Arrival?
Reactions? *braces for fangirl craziness* 

Skits wrote...
Whatever Shep is about to do will defeat the Reapers for good, but cost her own life as well. Would Garrus let her do that, or save her at the cost of everything else? I honestly don't think he'd be that selfish. XD

In that case - he'd let her do it. IF her dying along with the Reapers would end this war, he'd allow it. Of course - be probably scarred emotionally for a VERY long time, but yea.*tear* Hey i wonder, Could we see Garrus cry? I doubt we'd ever see him shed a tear but it would be interesting to see how he takes a depressing/dire situation. Say like when he discovers when Palaven is being invaded and destroyed by Reapers? I can see him pacing around his room....maybe punching a wall?  
Ya know - it IS a possibility that this could happen [the whole Shep dying with the Reapers]. Or maybe this is just blind assumptions on our part. But you never know. We know that not everyone is coming out of this alive  Some civilizations ARE going to die. Who is the mystery. And judging from Casey's twitter, there are LOADS of multiple endings. I wont post the particular tweet here, but wow. Going to be crazy. Casey is such a tease. 
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Wow we are holding the line here, back & forth. Where is everyone!? XD I claim its because of "Life". And yesh - darn blood suckers. I go to the doctor quite often and theyre ALWAYS taking blood out of me >.< Lookie Im practically "calibrating" with one hand. Badass! And wait - you donate blood....every 2 wks!? Omg you brave. UGH I HATE needles. And it doesnt help im hemophobic. *shudder*
GAH someone post turian pics! *goes to DA to stare at shirtless garrus*

edit: HOLY CR@P thats some mountain of text! XD Im so sry ppl!! LMAO! 
And look - thats me typing with a busted up right arm. Imagine if both my arms were working at 100%. Essays galore! XD I blame skits for making a good discussion with me

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:31 .

[Skits]

Haha I'm enjoying all this in-depth discussion. It gives my brain stuff to chew on. XD Even if we know all these what-ifs won't happen, it's still fun to speculate about. But omg yeah, getting to play as all the other squadmates at various points in the game would be awesome. And yeah, so much of what we think Garrus or Shep would do depends SO MUCH on the exact circumstances. So many variables, not enough data! Unable to determine precise outcomes with so little information!

I have absolutely no idea what's going on with Palaven in ME3 - been avoiding spoilers as best I can. XD But yeah, I think Papa Vakarian is still on the Citadel - can you imagine HIS reaction if Shep/Garrus had to sacrifice Palaven for whatever reason? D: ANGST and DRAMA, hehehe.

Garrus does have turian pride, no doubt about that, but he's already proven that he doesn't let other turians' opinions of him stop him from doing what he thinks is the right thing. So if he had to do something that'd make other turians label him a traitor for the greater good, he'd still do it. He probably would be at least a little upset at it, but he'd never outwardly show it. He'd just make some joke about being a "bad turian" and grin and bear it.

Re. Arrival, yeah, it was a tough decision to make. As for reactions if it had been turians instead of batarians... I have a fic idea where Shep and Garrus are talking about the whole incident, and Shep asks Garrus what his reaction would've been if it had been turians instead of batarians. Garrus... goes very quiet for a while. XD Then he replies, but I'm not gonna say what it is 'cause that's for the fic. If I ever get around to actually writing it, ugh. Despite my verbal diarrhea here, I find writing actual fic very difficult, heh. Too self-critical.

I don't much like the idea of turians crying - it doesn't make much sense to me, especially given their facial construction. It'd just pool up in those deep eye sockets of theirs. XD But pacing around, definitely. Garrus strikes me as the sort of person that has trouble staying still (unless he's sniping, of course XD). Just look at all the conversations you have with him - he gestures quite a bit, paces around, and generally doesn't stay still. Even in his downtime he's always doing SOMETHING to keep himself occupied - fiddling with the Mako, calibrating the guns, or optimizing weapons charges and planning attack vectors to RELAX. XD Garrus is not a person who handles having nothing to do very well, I imagine.

I seriously hope that there's SOME way to save everyone, though if there is I'm sure it'd depend on what actions you took in ME1 and 2. We shall see what happens! I like this loads of multiple endings thing - so much replay value!

I have a feeling our massive posts may have scared people off, hehe. We're covering so much ground, and I at least keep veering off onto tangents. Whee!

And yeah, I donate every two weeks. Needles have never bothered me, blood generally doesn't bother me, and they give me FREE FOOD. Omnomnom.

Wall'o'text crits for over nine thousand! It's super effective! XD

As for turian pics, uhhh. Have another WIP shot of my Sad!Garrus. Still plugging away at it occasionally, slowly slowly.

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Skits wrote...
And yeah, so much of what we think Garrus or Shep would do depends SO MUCH on the exact circumstances. So many variables, not enough data! Unable to determine precise outcomes with so little information!

Omg Why do I feel like  we're acting like Mordin right now XDDD

- Oh you write FF? Or at least you have it trapped in your head? X3 I pictured that too actually. Garrus kinda likes to have a moment to collect his thoughts before actually answering. I respect that. 
"Verbal diarrhea"? WOW thats a new one XD In my head - i have LOADS of fanfiction written you. I even have some scenes written that I've had some ppl read. Ironically Im "really good". But im modest. Heck - couple weeks ago I actually remembered a VIVID dream I had about ME3 and wrote it out. I have friends wanting me to continue it so badly XP I wish I can just copy/paste whats in my head and magically have it appear on my screen.
 

-Turians crying topic: Agreed. Thats why i mentioned i doubt we'll ever see it XP Is it possible for turians to cry? Great, a new discussion triggered. LMAO! I mean in biology terms - i THINK its possible. Why wouldnt they be able too? It might just be weird with the deep eye sockets. We could see the tears sliding down some plates? Oh idk. I feel like sending a tweet asking but to who?XD Turians cant "blush" as in change color, but they can in combination of tone of voice and mandible flaring ;3 Garrus totally blushed when Shep asked when he started calling himself Archangel!
Garrus: *blush* "I dont mind it, but please...it's just 'Garrus' to you."
And did anyone notice when shepard asked how the mercs took down his team & Garrus looked down in silence, how much his mandibles vibrated closely against his face? That said it all.
AND YES FIGGITY GARRUS!! He's hardly ever still! EVERY conversation he walks around, uses his hands slightly and such. Even his mandibles start flaring up sometimes and not because he's talking. Those convey a range of emotions depending on movement. And him always keepinmg busy : That's his way of easing stress/nerves. Im guessing he always has alot on his mind. He needs to let off more "steam" with Shepard  I cant imagine him in ME3. Apparently he's going to have ALOT more free time. I wonder what he's going to be doing this time around on the normandy. Messing with his sniper? Looking over what the alliance did to the normandy's systems? GASP checking on his Thanix cannons! They touched his babies! XD After all those calibrations....."If they even remotely changed ONE thing to those cannons, I swear Im gonna....". Honestly Im the same way. I cant never just sit around and do absolutely nothing. My canonFemShep has that characteristic as well. She and Garrus need to force themselves to relax somehow X3

Skits wrote....
I have a feeling our massive posts may have scared people off, hehe. We're covering so much ground, and I at least keep veering off onto tangents. Whee!

I have a feeling thats one reason XD I dont call em "walls" anymore. With our posts - its like mountains. "Aint no mountain high enough?" LOL!
and heh, free food is always good! ******** oh noes, DBZ references. ITS OVER 9000! Im certain our posts our over 9000 characters at least? ;P

With both of us doing these huge posts - i imagine us trying to control ourselves like Mordin tried to do but to no avail