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[Chewin]

Sorry, I couldn't find it. But if I do, I'll make sure to post it here;)

[SailorVega]

The Spectre and the Archangel talks about it in the first chapter.

[Skits]

I think at the time that Garrus was just too damn tired to think much of anything, honestly. Which would probably explain why he doesn't seem to have much visible reaction to, y'know, Shepard suddenly NOT BEING DEAD. He'd been fighting off mercs for almost two days, after all, and probably hadn't slept for even longer. His thought process was probably something like, "Merc *snipe*... merc *snipe*... mer-- hey, that one looks kinda familiar... been awake a while, might be hallucinating, should probably check... *concussive shot* Huh. Real. Wonder what that's about. Probably find out soon. Merc *snipe*..."

When it was actually proven to be Shep, Garrus was still too tired to really make a big deal about it, AND too focused on the whole "getting out of here alive" issue. So he just put the Shep-resurrection thing aside for the time being... then he got hit by gunship, and the issue just never really came up again.

Though, this is based on my belief that, at this point in time, there wasn't anything more than friendship between Shep and Garrus, even subconsciously. Sure, even then Garrus had a lot of respect for Shep, but they were just friends, comrades-in-arms, nothing more than that. To my mind at least, the deeper feelings didn't start developing til after the recruitment mission. Shep had just saved Garrus from every merc in existence ever, and Garrus was the first familiar and reliable face Shep had to look after her six on the field after her resurrection.

Speaking of that mission, incidentally, I love Garrus' animation when he's getting up before he takes off his helmet. His movements are just so damn exhausted - you can SEE how tired he is. He has to use his sniper rifle just to get up. Normally I can't see him abusing his rifle like that. But Garrus being Garrus, he's also trying to hide how tired he is by being... well, stylish. XD

[Lady Olivia]

Hey guys. I wrote a Garrus/FemShep fic and... well... you're the intended audience. It's a short one-shot, cute & friendly. Hope you'll like! All comments will be deeply appreciated.

Fruit from Palaven

[Chewin]

Damn Skits, you're scary sometimes.

[Skits]

Scary? Howso? o_O And only sometimes? Damn, I gotta work on that part.

@ Lady Olivia: Read your fic there, nice! Well-written.

In the meantime, here, have a pic! Finally finished the bloody thing, for now anyway. Handcramp, argh. Still not entirely happy with it, but oh well. If I look at it any longer right now I'll probably stab myself in the eye with my wacom pen or something.

Modifié par Skits, 03 août 2011 - 02:46 .

[BubbleSauce]

Heh, I really enjoyed that Olivia, it was a pleasant little story, it put me in a good mood.

And Skits, you'll stab yourself in the eye with a wacom pen? And you wonder why Chewin finds you scary?

Great picture though, It came out really well in the end, I quite like the way you draw Garrus, his plates and skin seem to have a similar texture and colour in all of your pictures.

[Chewin]

I was just implying on your knowledge on Garrus just keep on surprising me, and how good you explain it. But now that you said that you'll stab yourself in the eye with a wacom pen I'll think I keep my distance from you in the future *takes a step backwards*

Anyway, that's one heck of a nice pic you got there. And Bubble is right, the colour of his armor ends up really good. Quick question, what is he holding in his hands? I can't really make out what it is.

Modifié par Chewin3, 03 août 2011 - 04:56 .

[Sialater]

Skits wrote...

I think at the time that Garrus was just too damn tired to think much of anything, honestly. Which would probably explain why he doesn't seem to have much visible reaction to, y'know, Shepard suddenly NOT BEING DEAD. He'd been fighting off mercs for almost two days, after all, and probably hadn't slept for even longer. His thought process was probably something like, "Merc *snipe*... merc *snipe*... mer-- hey, that one looks kinda familiar... been awake a while, might be hallucinating, should probably check... *concussive shot* Huh. Real. Wonder what that's about. Probably find out soon. Merc *snipe*..."

When it was actually proven to be Shep, Garrus was still too tired to really make a big deal about it, AND too focused on the whole "getting out of here alive" issue. So he just put the Shep-resurrection thing aside for the time being... then he got hit by gunship, and the issue just never really came up again.

Though, this is based on my belief that, at this point in time, there wasn't anything more than friendship between Shep and Garrus, even subconsciously. Sure, even then Garrus had a lot of respect for Shep, but they were just friends, comrades-in-arms, nothing more than that. To my mind at least, the deeper feelings didn't start developing til after the recruitment mission. Shep had just saved Garrus from every merc in existence ever, and Garrus was the first familiar and reliable face Shep had to look after her six on the field after her resurrection.

Speaking of that mission, incidentally, I love Garrus' animation when he's getting up before he takes off his helmet. His movements are just so damn exhausted - you can SEE how tired he is. He has to use his sniper rifle just to get up. Normally I can't see him abusing his rifle like that. But Garrus being Garrus, he's also trying to hide how tired he is by being... well, stylish. XD

I agree 100% and I've tried to show this in my fic.  Though... Meghan being the idiot she is, misunderstands a lot of Garrus' mannerisms.

[Obsydian]

Damn Skits... you really thought that through. But you're probably right. And considering thats one of my favorite scenes with Garrus. Its so damned well rendered and like you said, the animation is just perfect...

Also ... that picture? fraking amazing. I'm really impressed.

also... i miss spending time here.

[FrostCub]

Skits you have once again provided us with amazing artwork.

I feel bad for you Obsy Work catching up to you or just general stuff?

[Skits]

Hey, better to stab MYSELF in the eye than stab someone ELSE in the eye, right? And yeah, I think way too much about this sorta thing, hehe. That, and I'm a student animator, so I really notice animations and such. XD

Thank you all for the wonderful comments! And Chewin, it's his visor he's holding. That's one thing I need to fix - it kinda blends into everything else at the moment. >_< Though if you click on the pic it'll take you to a bigger version, should be easier to see. Hopefully.

We miss having you around, Obsy!

[BubbleSauce]

Skits wrote...

Hey, better to stab MYSELF in the eye than stab someone ELSE in the eye, right?

That's not very reassuring Skits...

[FrostCub]

Remind me to wear some form of eye protection if we ever meet Skits. Maybe a helmet as well.

Modifié par FrostCub, 03 août 2011 - 09:44 .

[BubbleSauce]

I wonder if Garrus' scooter would protect him from a knife to face, I've always wondered, is it holographic or is it made of a kind of reflective glass like material? There is an edge which isn't rounded of by the frame, so I guess if it were holographic, the image would just kind of keep flowing, and it seems like it would have to be fortified glass if it were to be worn in a combat situation, to stop it shattering in one situation, and to stop someone shoving a combat knife through his eye ala killzone, in another...

[k8ee]

BubbleSauce wrote...

Skits wrote...

Hey, better to stab MYSELF in the eye than stab someone ELSE in the eye, right?

That's not very reassuring Skits...

Bubbles is right... I would recommend working out your stabbing needs with an inflatable omni blade... a la this:

[ArcanaLegacy]

I have returned! MUAH HAHAHAHA! [sorta for now anyways] Arms healed up so now i can actually be ok typing again. WOO!

4days since my last post!? I must rectify this with.............a post? derp.

GarrusV4karian wrote...
I have a thought. Has anyone ever wondered what Garrus was thinking during the mission when you had to recruit Archangel? I mean, was he thinking "Hey, it's Shepard! Hurray!" or something more emotional?

Skits wrote...
I think at the time that Garrus was just too damn tired to think much of anything, honestly. Which would probably explain why he doesn't seem to have much visible reaction to, y'know, Shepard suddenly NOT BEING DEAD. He'd been fighting off mercs for almost two days, after all, and probably hadn't slept for even longer. His thought process was probably something like, "Merc *snipe*... merc *snipe*... mer-- hey, that one looks kinda familiar... been awake a while, might be hallucinating, should probably check... *concussive shot* Huh. Real. Wonder what that's about. Probably find out soon. Merc *snipe*..."

This whole thing but imma add to it. IMO *referring to underlined* BLASPHEMY! >:3 He did actually "think much", even exhausted to the brink of no return. Its paritcularly shown when you pick the renegade "Is that you, Garrus?" option in greeting him ironically. The way he say he's happy to see Shep says it all. He's even smiling. Oddly enough he doesnt show this "smile" when you chose the happy "Its good to see you." option. The gleam in his eye. He's happy. Just....he has no energy WHATSOEVER to even express it. Plus on the side of his mind - yes, he kept the merc gangbang & surviving aspects occupying. The whole scene is one of those - "I wish we had this reunion under better circumstances" moments XP
 
And the whole thing about the feelings being there "already" - thats up for debate. I personally think his feelings for her were in fact DEEP - but not on a romantic level, even though I'd like to think that at times. Hey i can dream cant i? Anyways I got the "very close friend vibe" at the start. His tone of voice, and body language told me that. & Garrus wouldnt just hand ANYONE his rifle XP heh.
I agree that after the recruitment, the feelings developed more. He joked around with her, gave her reassuring looks [ e.g. "You do realize this plan has me walking into hell too? Ha, just like old times."] Just that body language and the look of trust written on his face. Awesome. And realize the FIRST thing he practically says to shepard onboard the normandy is that no one would give him a mirror! XDDD And depending on gender - he jokes more either way. [FemShep] Claiming women find facial scars attractive......which i so do<3 And practically calling MShep ugly. Now with his scars, the ladies possibly pay more attention to shepard. XD which isnt true, the scars made me MORE attentive to garrus.....  After 2 years of chaos, I say Garrus felt comfortable to have someone around that he knew he could trust 100%. Not that im saying he didnt trust his team, but its clear he wasnt very open around them. They didnt know who he was [figuratively speaking] or where he came from. I saying trust on like what he has with Shepard. Someone he can be himself and not just a subordinate/comrade. I mean, honestly, look at the difference b/w how Jacob and Miranda talk to Shepard vs. Garrus.

Skits wrote...
Speaking of that mission, incidentally, I love Garrus' animation when he's getting up before he takes off his helmet. His movements are just so damn exhausted - you can SEE how tired he is. He has to use his sniper rifle just to get up. Normally I can't see him abusing his rifle like that. But Garrus being Garrus, he's also trying to hide how tired he is by being... well, stylish. XD

OH MY GAWD YESSSHHHH!! Majority of my friends dont even see that in the slightest way! How could you not!? Seriously! Just about every sentence Garrus forms is him practically out of breath. If you listen closely, you'll DEFINITELY notice it. And him getting up by putting his own weight leaning on that rifle broke my heart on my 1st playthru so BADLY. Actually scratch that - it still does on every playthru. Heck - he needs to take a seat during the reunion 1- to try and even remotely get a breather, and 2- possibly get over the shock Shepard is standing in front of him alive XD Though i wish he gave me a hug, i understand he was just soo.......BLAH. He was slouching of how tired he was. Normally he sits up right like in ME1 for example. Not to mention he had his rifle down next to him. Looked like he hardly had much a grip on that thing. But i have no problem with him sitting down because he brought about the most badass & extremely sexiest sitting position ever conceived by man.

btw - skits did i ever tell ya that i love ya? no? ok i love ya. just keep the pointy objects away.XD [this coming from someone with over 6 blades/shuriken in her room. Irony.]

[Chewin]

k8ee wrote...

Does that guy in the middle have a shirt which says 'hope' only it's writen HOP3? OMGGGGGG I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!

Hey, Arcana is back *waves hand all excitedly* and with a long post as usual. Yup, that's the Arcana we love.

[Skits]

A wacom pen isn't even all that pointy! And I wear glasses anyway, does that count as eye protection? XD Though I would not say no to an inflatable omni blade! That's a lotta orange. Helmets are ALWAYS a good idea though - Garrus proved that. Just think how much better off he'd have been if he'd put his helmet back on!

I figure Garrus' scouter is holographical, like the omnitools. Speaking of Garrus' scouter though... how the hell does it actually STAY ON? Judging by what we see in-game, it's not from contact pressure - it doesn't even touch his head till somewhere at or past the end of his side-fringes. So does he have some sorta graft on the back of his head that it attaches to? Does it have some sort of adhesive, like a giant post-it note? Is it permanently attached and embedded in his BRAIN? (It'd explain why he doesn't take it off during the romance scene, at least!) Does turian skin have enough metal content that it stays on via magnets? Whatever method it uses keeps it pretty solidly in place - even getting hit by gunship rocket didn't budge it an inch. Or do we just assume it IS held on by contact pressure and handwave the game model as not being entirely accurate? XD Though if it WAS kept on via contact pressure, it'd move everytime Garrus moved his eyebrow plate. That could get disconcerting and possibly even nauseating. XD

And yay, Arcana love! *loves back* How about the non-pointy objects?

Haha, I admit, the one time I picked the renegade "Is that you, Garrus?" option his reply made me feel all sorts of guilty for some reason, though I can't remember why now, so I've never picked it again. I might have to go replay that bit again just to see what you mean - I probably missed or misinterpreted something there.

And yeah, no doubt Garrus was happy to see Shepard again, for whatever reason. Even if it's just Shep showing up in time to help save his ass. Hell, Garrus says it himself: "It's nice to see a friendly face." After two days of only seeing the bodybag'd corpses of his teammates and people who're trying to KILL HIM, yeah, seeing Shep again would make him damn happy no matter what. XD

Incidentally! Speaking of bodybags, does anyone else remember Garrus' ME1 line "Bag 'em and tag 'em" that he'd sometimes say when combat ended? If so, does anyone else think he stopped using that particular line because he had to "bag and tag" his team mates? That idea always makes me sadface, though I do love it as character development. Or I may just be over-thinking things again. XD

On whether or not the feelings were there already, yeah, that's totally up for debate and personal interpretation and wishful thinking/dreaming. Though I definitely agree, even when there's no underlying romantic emotions (ie. MaleShep or a Shep who's loyal to Kaidan, etc.), Shep is someone Garrus definitely considers a good friend and trusts deeply. He certainly wouldn't hand his beloved rifle over to just anybody. As for his team, Garrus is someone I can't really see readily opening up to anybody, especially not people on Omega. Even if they were people he was trusting with his life. Hell, by the end of ME2 Garrus still hasn't even fully opened up to Shepard. He plays his cards incredibly close to his chest. His loyalty mission and the headbump scene are about as open as he gets, and even then he doesn't exactly spill his guts. Especially if you end up dumping him in the last romance scene - sure, we can see he's disappointed/hurt, but he tries to cover it up with a witty line and his usual affirmation of friendship.

Speaking of dumping Garrus at that final scene (which I've never actually done myself, hooray for youtube vids!), has anyone else noticed that instead of him saying his usual "I'll be here IF you need me", he instead says "I'll be here WHEN you need me"? Does anyone else find that significant?

Anyway, back on topic, I just personally don't much like the idea of there being even subconscious romantic leanings before Omega. To me, the relationship between Shep and Garrus during the Saren hunt was too unequal to really foster that sort of attachment. They don't much act as equals - don't really even CONSIDER each other as equals - until Omega. Trust? Hell yes. Friendship? Definitely. But anything beyond that, not until after Omega. And only once they see each other as equals does the deeper/posible romantic interest even start. But that's just my take on it, heh. Don't even get me started on the rest of the Shep/Garrus romance in general, I'd be here all night. XD

And yeah, Garrus' visible and audible exhaustion on Omega always gets me too. Then he gets shot and I'm all "noooooooo" yet again, heh. Man, the way he tries to clutch his rifle when he wakes up and that horrible-sounding lung gurgle... aaaugh.

Heh, you know your posts are getting too long when you use Notepad to write 'em so you can easily read over what you've got already. x_x

[Obsydian]

Oh you guys. This is an awesome discussion.

First, to answer your question, Skits.... work and life are taking over a bit at the moment. My boy just got back from Afghanistan... and we're having some serious issues. Plus work is a pain in the arse. I'm manager of a store and it means that I work far too much.

I still drop by here every once in awhile, but its rare that I have time to actually read and get involved with stuff.

I don't think that Garrus' visor is holographic.... just the way its rendered.... it looks like a solid bit of something clear that has the info projected onto it. but... i dunno. tech in that game is strange. Also, i've been wondering how it stays on his head forever. i got nothin on that one.

lastly... i like to believe that there was some attraction for Shep and Garrus in the first game. But my canon Shep was mourning Nihlus through the entire first game, so .... uh, that puts a bit of a damper on that. but yeah. i do like to see that there's maybe a little more there... even if neither of them recognize it for what it is.

yeah.

also... this. from Nyhgault. 

Modifié par Obsydian, 04 août 2011 - 02:02 .

[Chewin]

Is it just me or does that pic just look wrong with those short arms? I mean, I love the art that Nyhgault does, but this seems little stranger then the rest of his.

[BubbleSauce]

Obsydian wrote...

Oh you guys. This is an awesome discussion.

First, to answer your question, Skits.... work and life are taking over a bit at the moment. My boy just got back from Afghanistan... and we're having some serious issues. Plus work is a pain in the arse. I'm manager of a store and it means that I work far too much.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that obsydian, oh well, we'll be here when you need us, talking the same random, nonsensical bollocks that we always do! 

[ArcanaLegacy]

Wow so many topics of dicussions - at this rate my arm isnt gonna recover fully XD [its like 85%].
blah! *mordin impression* I'll....try.....to...show....down......

Chewin3 wrote...

k8ee wrote...
*Crazy Comic-Con ME3 fans snip*

Does that guy in the middle have a shirt which says 'hope' only it's writen HOP3? OMGGGGGG I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!
Hey, Arcana is back *waves hand all excitedly* and with a long post as usual. Yup, that's the Arcana we love.

Yep yep it is a me3 shirt Ironically im in the works of making one JUST LIKE THAT, except i was gonna put "HOP3 arrives 2012" or something like that, but looks like someone beat me to it? XP 2 guesses where that came from - 1) he custom made it. or 2) He brought it a comic-con. Either way im somewhat jealous :3
*waves hand all excitedly back* And yes i be sorta back with my extended posts. I'll try to keep concise XD Thoughts in dicussions get the better of me. derp.

Garrus' visor topic:
-Think like the Dragonball Z anime in a way XD IMO I think its...how can i put this.... think in the way like a small portable datapad? Except in blue? They both seem to project in the same way with the data scrolling and blinking, but Garrus' could very well be reinforced so it wouldnt be fragile. Realize he took a rocket to his face and rolled onto the floor with such an impact that its still perfectly intact.  If it were holographic, it would be somewhat blurry and nonelligble in combat due to constant movement.
-As for HOW its latched onto his head - I can definitely give an accurate answer for that. Among my ME friends, i somewhat have a "fetish" with his visor. I just think its so badass, I ADORE blue and it doesnt help that i've always wanted one. Plus we never see him w/o it off so I used to fiddle ALOT with my camera and get a view behind his head. Its bolted on by 9 small bolts/nails...whatever you wanna call them. 3 on the top, and 6 down his neck. Garrus has a hard exoskeleton, so I think it wouldnt bother him or cause discomfort by some small bolts mildly embedded onto a plate. Though whats weird is that he has part of the frame going partially down his neck to a point. Im here thinking that would be uncomfortable if he suddenly threw his head back but its Garrus - he wouldnt do that to himself if he knew it would be troublesome in regards to his own equipment. I actually have an image SOMEWHERE on it up close......*rummages thru scrnshot folder*
Found it!

Yea, looks like clipping issues at the end down the back, but it does lead to a single point. Ive seen it a few times.
......what? I like to analyze every aspect of my fav turian! Dont give me them looks! *runs away*


@Obsy: PM me when u can. You owe me an update buddy. *hug* And ditto on what Bubble said. Hooray for "random, nonsensical bollocks"!

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 04 août 2011 - 08:15 .

[Obsydian]

OMG Arc. That is amazing. I also have one hell of a fetish for that thing. Like a serious fetish. I've always loved visors and the like. and you're probably right about it being just bolted to his plating. that works and is one hell of an awesome design. wonder if they even thought that through for ME1, or if they put more into it for ME2.

also, thanks for your support guys. I'm workin on it. and I will always come back here. I tend to check in at least once a day, since, at the very least, the pretties make me happy.

Arc, there will be an incoming PM VERY soon, i can promise you that. Things are getting somewhat volatile here.

[ArcanaLegacy]

Yay! so im not the only one with this extreme visor fetish XD Ty for making me not so awkward. lol
And YESH update me. I worry for ya. *hug*

BTW Im replaying ME1 again for old times sake. Making a new alternate canon femshep. I always save Ash on virmire, so im making one for saving Kaiden this time. Plus I have unfinished business with a certain asari on virmire......one i BADLY wanted to shoot on okeers mission in me2 but had no option for it. If i must go back in time to take care of her - so be it. And I brought up this me1 topic because during my playthru, ive been running into ALOT of hilarious moments where the characters are glitched in a way. One particular moment during Liara's rescue got me laughing. Involves Garrus and it further proves he really IS a gentleman.....

I took a screenshot and made this M.poster for the lulz to show you guys.

Dawww Garrus....